Yeah I know. But even if they can get 50mil doses by March though, that would be huge.
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Yeah I know. But even if they can get 50mil doses by March though, that would be huge.
Yup then we just need the ability to get it in arms quickly. Just doing Moderna and Pfizer at 60 million a month means 2 million a day which seems at the top end of the estimates. Need more infrastructure to get these in arms simultaneously so they aren’t sitting on shelves. Feds should work with states mobilize the national guard to admin these to general pop.
Of course, if it works as many hope.
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Wow great news from J&J this morning!
- Phase 3 trials expected to be done this month
- 100 million doses ready to go
- only ONE shot needed
- Can be stored 37 to 39°F
Wow great news from J&J this morning!
- Phase 3 trials expected to be done this month
- 100 million doses ready to go
- only ONE shot needed
- Can be stored 37 to 39°F
Can you post link? See above news that they may have 60 million by March April and phase three still not out.
Just saw it on the news this morning. They WILL be concluded with Phase 3 by end of the month. Sorry can't confirm right now with a client!
Have not seen any reports that J&J will have 100MM doses ready to go this month and, in fact, they've reported manufacturing delays. Latest report was 12MM doses by the end of February and 60MM by the end of February. Also, while it's highly likely the vaccine will be pretty effective (70-80%?), nobody actually knows that yet and we won't know that until the data are unblinded around the end of January.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/j-...tion-snags-new-york-times-reports-51610547457
Under the terms of that deal, announced in August, the company agreed to deliver 100 million doses of its vaccine to the U.S. government for $1 billion. The company did not disclose specific production timeline targets at the time, but the New York Times reported Wednesday that it was meant to have 12 million doses ready by the end of February.
The Times says that the production schedule is now delayed by two months. A Johnson & Johnson official interviewed by the Times did not comment on production, but an Operation Warp Speed official confirmed a delay to the paper. The Times reports that the company is now expected to catch up to its original production schedule by the end of April. By then, it had planned to deliver more than 60 million doses.
I'll find the video if I can. Have no reason to make shit up. Well aware they had reported delays in the recent past.
Only problem is attempting to get an appointment. Most phone contact lines are continuously busy or have been disconnected . EXAMPLE : Woodbridge Health and Community Service... Clark Shop Rite ...Edison Community Health Center...just a few ... yet Phil is still claiming within 6-8 weeks for most in the danger zone and the remainder by April -May. Hey Phil it’s not going to happen . Oh well will continue to try daily.
No one cares where the news comes from as long as it’s correct. And people weren’t claiming you made it up. Just asking for where you got it from.
the professor is citing early results which have been widely reported. It’s promising. Full results aren’t out now but will be shortly. The professor also said they have 100 million doses ready to go. Other reporting from a number of outlets including folks from operation warp speed are saying they will have 60 by March or April. So that info may not be correct.
even if they had 100 and it’s highly effective, which would be amazing, we can’t get it into armsgiven the limit on daily vaccinations with existing infrastructure. The current vaccines could be used at 2m a day and we are not there yet.Hopefully we can fix that and this vaccine works.
There was a rep in the capital that got both vaccine shot and still after a week got the virus. Still a lot of unknown about the vaccine or he was one of the 5% and not the 95%.
I'm pretty sure it takes a week or two to be fully effective, similar to the flu vaccine.
NUTS - Dr, Siegel is simply wrong here. J&J never committed to having 100MM doses by now - in the original contract they committed to 100MM doses by the end of June and 12MM by the end of February, as per below. Not your fault he was wrong (and that has zero to do with Fox - I quote them regularly - presumaby Siegel just misspoke), but it's important to have the correct info out there.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/health/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson.html#:~:text=In%20the%20company's%20%241%20billion,by%20the%20end%20of%20June.
But the encouraging prospect of a third effective vaccine is tempered by apparent lags in the company’s production. In the company’s $1 billion contract signed with the federal government in August, Johnson & Johnson pledged to have 12 million doses of its vaccine ready by the end of February, ramping up to a total of 100 million doses by the end of June.
But at a Tuesday news conference, Dr. Slaoui said that instead of 12 million doses envisioned in the contract by the end of February, the company was likely to have in the “single-digit” millions. He also said the company was “trying to make that number get as close to a double-digit number as possible, and then a larger number in March and a much larger number in April.” Another person familiar with the company’s progress said it was poised to deliver only perhaps three million or four million doses of its vaccine by the end of next month.
In a statement, a Johnson & Johnson spokesman said, “We are confident we can meet our contractual obligations to supply our vaccine candidate to the U.S. government.”
Dr. de Notaristefani, Operation Warp Speed’s manufacturing chief, said the government’s contracts with vaccine makers were written at a time of great uncertainty, with the understanding that unforeseen obstacles could throw off the timetables. “Numbers are never cast in stone when you start a new process,” he said, adding that the company had to transfer its manufacturing from the Netherlands to a plant in Baltimore. “I really think that technically they couldn’t do it earlier.”
No issue at all - you provided what would normally be a good source - not your fault the doc in the interview didn't have the details right...
We’ll see but it won’t be in 6-8 weeks... when he announces his greatest achievement perhaps he’ll get an Emmy next fall. 3- 4 million aren’t getting vaccinated by end of February -end of . March. I’ll check back in a week with you. Think how many need to be done daily . Say 50 k per day for 30 days is 1.5 million. And you think we get the first 4.7 done by end of February. We would need 150 per day to reach all eligible now ... like today. 🙏
Novovax is currently bringing up the rear. If all goes well they can provide a couple of billion doses globally.
www.fiercepharma.com
Novavax taps Baxter for commercial production as COVID-19 vaccine nears finish line
Novavax tapped Baxter BioPharma Solutions to support commercial-scale vaccine manufacturing at its facility in Halle, Germany. Once manufacturing work kicks off, Baxter will be on deck to crank out supplies for the European and U.K. markets, the companies said.
www.fiercepharma.com
Problem is it takes time for the antibodies to become effective. Flu shot is not instantaneous protection and I believe neither are these vaccines for covid19. May take a month or more? But maybe check with Numbers he’ll bring you up to speed on how long after the shot should one expect some protections.
Kind of bizarre but anecdotally I've heard of 6 cases this past week of infants aged 2 or younger getting the virus with symptoms. In 5 of the 6 cases the infant passed it along to one or both of the parents. In all cases the source where the infant caught it is unknown.
Kind of concerning considering infants may not be eligible for vaccination until the end of 21 at the earliest if at all.
Kind of concerning considering infants may not be eligible for vaccination until the end of 21 at the earliest if at all.
Yeah they didn’t know a lot then.This tweet did not age well. One year ago today.
They (CCP) certainly knew A LOT more. They had it scrubbed from their internet firewall as early as the first week of December and by mid January they were already digging up the interprovincial highway into Wuhan with bucket loaders and installing jersey barriers perpendicular to the roadway.
I'm just about certain they knew - they had to, as they shut down Wuhan/Hubei 9 days later and there were numerous internet reports of a virulent, infectious "flu" before then. China's lack of transparency over the first few months of the pandemic has been a major problem for the world.
On another note, after numerous delays, China has finally allowed the WHO expert team into the country to begin hunting for the source of the pandemic. It will be interesting to see how much cooperation they get, since China has repeatedly delayed this effort and continues to put up hurdles; see the link/excerpt below.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/world/asia/china-who-wuhan-covid.html
More than a year after a new coronavirus first emerged in China, a team of experts from the World Health Organization finally arrived on Thursday in the central city of Wuhan to begin hunting for its source.
But in a sign of Beijing’s continuing efforts to control the investigation, the team of scientists and W.H.O. employees almost immediately ran into obstacles. Two scientists were unable to enter China at the last minute and remained in Singapore because they tested positive for coronavirus antibodies, the W.H.O. said in a Twitter post. The Chinese authorities required the remaining 13 experts to undergo two weeks of quarantine in Wuhan, where the virus first emerged in late 2019.
The investigation is a critical step in understanding how the virus jumped to humans from animals so that another pandemic can be avoided. Getting answers will most likely be difficult.
The Chinese government, notoriously wary of outside scrutiny, has repeatedly impeded the arrival of the team — and the investigation. Even in the best of circumstances, a full inquiry could take months, if not longer. The team must also navigate attempts by China to politicize the inquiry.
Finally, the Chinese government just announced the lockdown of 11MM people in Hebei province, which neighbors Beijing, due to hundreds of new COVID cases, making it the worst outbreak in many months in China.
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...own-after-biggest-coronavirus-spike-in-months
I have no doubt that China has obfuscated and not been transparent about this since the beginning. I was more referring to the WHO and others. We have all learned a lot about the virus and it’s transmissibility since that tweet.
NY Times tracker of vaccine rollout, including stats for each state on doses received by each state and doses administered, showing ~30MM doses distributed to the States and ~11.1MM doses given (3.4% of the US has gotten a shot and that number is 3.5% in NY and 3.0% in NJ). We and most other countries are way behind Israel, which is up to ~20% vaccinated already - they are a small, densely populated country and they have a superb public health program with a high degree of digital compliance.
Our patchwork healthcare system, lack of Federal ownership of the overall program (including mixed messaging on priorities and lack of funding for the states) especially at the start when we got ~3MM vaccinated vs. the ~20MM OWS promised (prompting General Perna to admit they failed) and byzantine state systems have all conspired to slow our rollout down. Hopefully we can catch up.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/israels-covid-vaccine-rollout-is-the-fastest-in-the-world.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...804898-5100-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
Our patchwork healthcare system, lack of Federal ownership of the overall program (including mixed messaging on priorities and lack of funding for the states) especially at the start when we got ~3MM vaccinated vs. the ~20MM OWS promised (prompting General Perna to admit they failed) and byzantine state systems have all conspired to slow our rollout down. Hopefully we can catch up.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/israels-covid-vaccine-rollout-is-the-fastest-in-the-world.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...804898-5100-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
More then a year to erase and cover up any tracks which would lead back to the origin of the virus. Unbelievable enough that China didnt cooperate, but even more so the WHO and the rest of the world didnt exert enough power to get in there sooner. China might very well come out smelling like roses in this one if no credible evidence is discovered against the lab or the government.
I saw this earlier today so I figured I would post the article
COVID-19 is not influenza - The Lancet Respiratory Medicine
COVID-19 is not influenza - The Lancet Respiratory Medicine
I’m betting this investigation will go as smooth as our inspections of Iran’s nuclear program. “Nothing to see here now leave please.”
Does the CCP still maintain the US brought the virus in via our envoy to their world military games?
As I've said many times, I do not believe the virus was manmade or accidentally released and I doubt it's worth rehashing why other than to say that most virologists still believe that SARS-CoV-2 evolved naturally, like every other virus in the history of viruses. But the Chinese have contributed to the conspiracy theories on them being responsible in some way, by not being transparent. My belief is they weren't transparent because they didn't want anyone knowing how harsh their lockdowns were and how many people were likely killed in Wuhan (10-20K or more, not the 3000 "official" deaths) or how early the first cases were.
For the latter failure, that would place major blame on them for not giving the world much more of a heads up and while I doubt there's any way the pandemic could've been contained in China (it's just too transmissible), knowing a month earlier could've resulted in getting vaccines a month earlier, perhaps at least saving a few hundred thousand lives, worldwide. Hopefully the WHO team can actually find an intermediate host or a closer "relative" on the evolutionary chain in bats, but no matter what, because of that lack of transparency, some % will always believe that China was responsible.
Big guy you defended China . By you defending the WHO you were also defending China but when people on this board told you China was the problem they were called out. Why? Because of political differences and the hate for the guy still in office . For as much as some of us were also wrong you and your quest to be right is all you saw then and remember now. Yes we all have learned about lies, hypocrisy and that saying people care is BS. Most don’t ...
Most people avoided their doctors and emergency rooms. Normally preventable issues weren't taken care of.
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