OT: Electric vehicles
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It's still the NYT, and I don't want to derail the thread. They have a long and storied history of mis-reporting and pushing agendas over facts. Yellow journalism at its finest.
I thought this article summarized things well. Technologies will evolve slowly, but at the end of the day your average EV has increased about 25 miles per year. 5 years from now 500 miles will be the norm.
What’s next for batteries in 2023
www.technologyreview.com
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Seems to me you are derailing the thread. All I did was point out who wrote the column with no editorial comment about the writer or the publication.
And I was just pointing out in the beginning that the piece was very biased and seemed to have some sort of weird undercurrent, probably not liking Musk, which is in keeping with the history of the publication that published the opinion piece. But thanks for your opinion on my opinion.
The NYT is the farthest thing from Yellow Journalism. Yes, the NYT Is too left-leaning and has made some huge mistakes, but is still a fine source of news.
It can hard to see the forest from the trees while society goes through another great transformation. However, when we look back, it is amazing to see how fast and how far things have changed.
I agree the editorial was crap. C&D has no love lost for Tesla/Musk and EVs in general. I read the NYT, but generally skip the op-ed pages entirely.
B.C. man says he accidentally unlocked and drove someone else’s Tesla using the app - BC | Globalnews.ca
A Vancouver man is trying to figure out how he managed to get into someone else's Tesla recently and drive off, using the app on his own phone.
globalnews.ca
That article wasn't based in reality. The NYT does appear to have an anti EV agenda. Remember the hit piece about EV charging? The author of that gem intentionally drove out of her way to avoid DC fast charging on a cross country road trip, then complained about her charging nightmare.
Saw that. The driver said he was driving the car for 5-10 minutes and still didn't realize he wasn't in his own car. Really? Seat, wheel, and mirror presets? Cleanliness? Familiar smell? Maybe it's true, but that part made my bullshit detector go off.B.C. man says he accidentally unlocked and drove someone else’s Tesla using the app - BC | Globalnews.ca
A Vancouver man is trying to figure out how he managed to get into someone else's Tesla recently and drive off, using the app on his own phone.
Politics aside, a lot of their "science-based" reporting leaves a lot to be desired. PhD from fancy schmancy universities that could not hack it in industry or academia opining on stuff when they have no real world or hands on experience. That was my original point about them. This goes back far into history, their reporting/opinions fitting a pre-conceived narrative- the Duke lacrosse scandal, and before that, at the eve of the start of World War 2, they literally wrote that Poland had invaded Germany. They are holding serve with their EV reporting.
Curious as to what news source you consider to be better than NYT (no op-eds - news reporting).
That's pretty easy. I eschew much of the biased reporting, but whenever I read/watch something from one of the many biased sources out there on both sides, it is never trust but verify, instead verify before trusting, and usually, never reach the trust stage. It is sad, but a reflection on today's world. But there are plenty of great sources:
For science based topics- blogs and scientific and medical journals.
EV stuff: Electrek
Medical: JAMA, NEJM
Financial: CNBC is not bad, WSJ is OK for strict financial stuff
Twitter: believe it or not following lots of great profs, scientists, MDs on topics of interest provides a wealth of info on medical topics of interest, particularly lipidology, cardiac health, EVs, exercise, nutrition, etc.
General News: Super Local Newspapers such as the Coast Star for South Monmouth
News Nation out of Chicago for general news, with verification and self-research
As has been pointed out, the column was actually written by Ezra Dyer, of Car & Driver magazine.
So a couple of background points, for those unfamiliar.
Dyer as as good an automotive journalist as they get. He's worked with the best at C&D, guys who are legends in the industry.
Neither he, nor C&D, "hates" Tesla. But he is an automotive journalist and he's going to imply his - and his peers' - perspective that Tesla is an innovative company that builds revolutionary vehicles, but not very well, and that the business is run by a madman.
So a couple of background points, for those unfamiliar.
Dyer as as good an automotive journalist as they get. He's worked with the best at C&D, guys who are legends in the industry.
Neither he, nor C&D, "hates" Tesla. But he is an automotive journalist and he's going to imply his - and his peers' - perspective that Tesla is an innovative company that builds revolutionary vehicles, but not very well, and that the business is run by a madman.
Perhaps he thinks Teslas are Good, but not great. Fans of Tesla are Desperately Wanting , and perhaps for A Lifetime for automotive journalists Better than Ezra who may write that Teslas are Extra Ordinary, and they will be left Breathless and Grateful-they may even Tremble.
Or just write a fact based article. Ford sold a few thousand EV pick-ups. Tesla doesn't offer an EV pickup yet. Not sure how you can conclude that Ford is leaving Tesla in the dust based on that. Also considering Tesla sold 1.3 million EVs in 2022 compared to Ford's 20k. Tesla's EVs are profitable, Ford's aren't. I don't yearn for praised to be heaped upon Tesla. Facts will suffice. But, that's no how journalism works these days.
Nobody has explained corporate finance to you, yet, I see.
They said that "the Lightning program" was not profitable. The individual vehicles are selling for more than their COGS.
Doesn't understand software development... doesn't understand finance... doesn't understand marketing and propaganda... lots of doesn't understand keeps piling up.
Yet I continue to be correct on most things EV. Go figure.
Hey, we finally agree on something (related to cars). Oh happy day! 😀
True, true. But the scale and scope of his adulation of all things Elon and Tesla is beyond question. He is the undisputed leader in that, here on the RUFB forum.
I prefer to focus on people's positive attributes as much as possible, you know.
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tl:dr - HA
but are you really? you push as much propaganda as cable tv news.
LOL. Not even one of the few anti-EV/anti-Telsa forum members has posted here so far today; probably not even this week.
OTOH, the Teslarati sycophants work the thread on a near-daily basis.
Want a mulligan?
Wrong. You just throw shit up on the wall and hope that something sticks.
Tesla hit with 'right to repair' antitrust class actions
Tesla Inc has been sued in a pair of proposed antitrust class actions accusing the company of unlawfully curbing competition for maintenance and replacement parts for its electric vehicles, forcing owners to pay more and wait longer for repair services.
www.reuters.com
i don't know that i would really trust some offbrand parts for any EV right now. the industry is still in its infancy.
hey look, the primary shitposter showed up. actually, you're more of a culprit than belly.
Sort of like a Tesla with FSD or Autopilot engaged (or, you know, after the steering wheel falls off). 🙂
See, now this is fun.
