Or…Tesla is making so much from their other vehicles that they back burnered the truck? Your hatred for all things Tesla is comical. Be honest, much did you lose shorting them?
OT: Electric vehicles
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I actually like Tesla product. My hatred is with the fan club and Musk manipulating the stock. I’m very honest and transparent with my trades. Go to the stock thread and you’ll see that I stated I lost enough money shorting Tesla to buy a model 3 in 2020. You’ll also see I made all of it back on Tesla puts in 2021. Only if others were as transparen.
You are correct. What my friend @jtung230 refuses to grasp is that Tesla is DEMAND constrained. They could introduce 10 new models, yet wouldn't be able to increase units sold. It would be a terrible business decision to increase manufacturing complexity when you don't have to.
Semi truck, Cybertruck, and Roadster will all use Tesla's in-house 4680 cells. They are no where near the production volume of 4680s needed to introduce these new vehicles. Right now, 4680s are being stockpiled for the Model Ys soon coming out of Austin. Even the new Berlin Model Ys are temporarily using Panasonic 2170 cells.
And, of course he is wrong about Nikola beating Tesla to the punch with a semi truck. For 2+ years, several Tesla semi prototypes have been running supplies from Giga Nevada to Fremont.
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Rob Mauer does a nice job breaking down and explaining Tesla's R&D spending and how, just by looking at the raw numbers, you can be mislead. Jump to the 1 minute mark:Here's an article that is sure to rile the anti-Tesla folks here. You are forewarned.
Tesla Records The Highest R&D Spend Per Car Sold At $2984 | EN.WHEELZ.ME
Tesla Records The Highest R&D Spend Per Car Sold At $2984 EN.WHEELZ.MEen.wheelz.me
Lamborghini's CEO explains why the company isn't planning an all-electric supercar
Lamborghini will launch three hybrid models in the coming years, but it's not planning to phase out its big, loud gas engines just yet.
Rental car delivery startup Kyte is growing its fleet to 10,000 vehicles
Kyte, the startup that delivers rental cars to customers' doors, has raised $200 million in asset-backed credit financing from Goldman Sachs and Ares Global Management, money the company will use to pay for new vehicles that will fuel its expansion. Kyte, which is currently in 13 U.S. markets...
Every EV company is DEMAND constrained. Actually, it’s not just EV, there’s a huge demand for ICE cars too. First to market advantage goes to Nikola. But Tesla wins the prototype trophy.
Elon Musk Uses an Ingenious Trick to Get Tesla Buyers to Pay More - TheStreet
Tesla and CEO Musk have a clever way to entice buyers to pay for an expensive feature.
www.thestreet.com
Hmmmmm…….guess the direct model isn’t that great.
This isn’t new. I ordered in July 2021 and wasn’t given a direct date, it was always a range. The car buying experience was the best I’ve ever had, you should try it sometime.Elon Musk Uses an Ingenious Trick to Get Tesla Buyers to Pay More - TheStreet
Tesla and CEO Musk have a clever way to entice buyers to pay for an expensive feature.
Hmmmmm…….guess the direct model isn’t that great.
I'm sure he did. Elon was holding him in a headlock. Dude stop already. Car stealerships don't offer incentives? You've transitioned to pathetic. Just say no to click bait.
Really cool drone fly through of Giga Berlin. How a Tesla is made:
Our long-term 2022 BMW 330e xDrive beat its electric range estimate
We range-tested our long-term 2022 BMW 330e xDrive to see how far it would go before the gas engine kicked on.
2022 Lucid Air Dream Charges More Quickly Than Any Other EV
In our fast-charging test, the Air Dream Edition Performance charged at an average rate of 135 kilowatts, 10 kW higher than the Model S Plaid.
Tom Brady Doesn't Only Collect Super Bowl Rings, Check Out His Car Collection
The retiring football GOAT has a car collection as impressive as his skills on the field!
Jobs for Oklahoma if this new company gets rolling—
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POLITICAL ROUNDUP: Canoo investment met with rare bipartisanship
Mar. 25—Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt has awarded Canoo, an electrical vehicle startup, $15 million dollars to support a total investment of $560 million for facilities in Pryor, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City. That move has local Democrats and Republicans coming together in a rare case of bipartisanship...
'Everyone can win': Why Ford's success depends on West Tennessee working together
The Memphis Area Association of Governments hosted a conference on next steps for Ford's Blue Oval City project Thursday at the Halloran Centre.
LOL. ICE dealership trying to make money = stealership, but Tesla making you pay up 12k for FSD is cool. You and I both know that FSD is all software and has no bearing on production time. classic Fan club response.
ETA my favorite part of the article was how the consumers outsmarted Tesla by canceling the feature after confirmation of delivery date. Too bad Tesla caught on to that.
No one forces an adult to do anything. I chose to not get FSD and it was no issue. You really do reach for these things.
Until I decided to get a hybrid, I had very little interest in hybrid and electric cars. Don’t always get what everyone is talking about in this thread, but still find out a lot of interesting stuff. Just wish everyone , pro and con, would talk about the cars and American jobs it is and may create in the future instead of all the Musk focus, good or bad. If I wanted to watch people yell at each other, I would follow politics. Just my two cents.
Good for you for not falling for the scummy practice. It’s not like they are up selling you on 1k. FSD for 12k is like a 20% mark up. Funny how no one defends the “stealership” by saying no one is making you pay a premium above MSRP.
If/when Tesla solves full autonomy, those that bought in at $2,500-$12,000 are going to look pretty smart. Once solved, the price will skyrocket well past $12k. FSD purchase is an optional bet some customers are willing to take.
I'm sure you'll poo-poo the idea of autonomous vehicles. I'm also sure you're completely ignorant of Tesla's current progress.
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I was about to post this - just amazing. I don't know how the operator didn't crash the thing multiple times.
The footage was sped up significantly. Did you catch the Mega castings at 0:50. Gotta say that's my favorite. Would love to see that in person.
70 separate parts down to 1.
300 body shop robots GONE.
"The best part is no part. The best process is no process"
-Elon Musk
Following Tesla's lead, Volvo is jumping into Mega castings too.
Volvo plans Tesla-style "mega casting" for its biggest plant, as it shifts to EVs
Large single aluminum castings for major components like vehicle floor structures will lead to cost savings and a lower environmental footprint, the automaker says.
Since Twitter isn't a government entity, freedom of speech doesn't apply, but since social media has become so ubiquitous, there is a debate to be had over whether or not freedom of speech should extend to these platforms. However, that then infringes on the freedom of a business to operate how they see fit, so it's an interesting topic for sure. Of course many people will form their opinion one way or the other over who is being affected by a particular business's choices rather than digging deeper and looking at the underlying principles conflicting with each other.
I didn't want to derail the thread. But I like that Musk is not afraid to stick his neck out and assert his views. He took a nice swipe at Sen. Warren not long ago when she was "yelling" at rich people.
Anyway, it's in keeping with his Maverick tendencies. I just don't like some of his design choices, namely, the yoke.
The guy who sucks up to China wants free speech. LOL. A true Maverick.
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But… but… you’ve been responding to me. 🙂
I know, you meant that other insufferable troll. I’m perhaps I’m a sufferable troll? 😀
Pretty sure once we solve driverless driving that we’ll have V2V and V2I (without which it ain’t never gonna work well enough) and while it might start out as an option at that point, it will shortly thereafter become standard equipment for lots of cars, if not mandated by some states, like air bags and seat belts. Perhaps wrapped up in some anti-drunk driving legislation.
I'd say you are insufferable, but not a troll.
Elon Musk and Tesla Give Up on a Trick that Boosts Margins, Revenue - TheStreet
The company recently implemented a trick to boost its margins and revenue as revealed by TheStreet.
www.thestreet.com
great job by The Street.
Inside China's electric drive for swappable car batteries - Autoblog
DETROIT/BEIJING — A year ago Tesla dismissed the alternative path of electric car battery swapping as "riddled with problems and not suitable for widescale
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Will be interesting to see how a swappable battery approach evolves. China can sometime confound businesses around the world due to its unusual social stability over profit mentality. A sensible policy given as large a population as theirs. But a policy that continually appears to trip up non-Chinese businesses seeking to do business in China using the much more typical profitability as priority one model.
Inside China's electric drive for swappable car batteries - Autoblog
DETROIT/BEIJING — A year ago Tesla dismissed the alternative path of electric car battery swapping as "riddled with problems and not suitable for widescale
The question "what will automakers do to differentiate themselves" will not resonate with China's leadership at all. Heck, it strikes me as a dumb question even from a profit-motive perspective. Differentiate through quality, efficiency, design and features. Duh.
Anyway, the next ten years in EVs will be very interesting times.
