I thnik as hard as Pete played and as much as you have to hate him at times- most real baseball people respect how he played on the field. I don't think Buddy would give him many votes though lolSurprised there's been no mention of Pete Rose.
Yes - can you give a few examples of things that didn't get reported that we'd be shocked by?The only player that ever really annoyed me was Utley. Everything about him just screamed that he is a dick.
Two players in football also piss me off a ton. Big old rapist Ben- R . Dude should have never seen a football field again, much less walk away free.
Ray Lewis- Paster Ray or whatever he considers himself. Holds himself to be holier than though and talks crap about players who may cross the lines and fans all over the country and media love this guy. POS with no regard to human life.
Greg Hardy - Out of all the "thugs" my son met in the NFL -and funny thing is- the worst of the worst came from the SEC and 80% of what they do never gets reported. And you would be shocked of many of the things. But this POS was the most evil person he had ever met.
Tons of gang related issues. Let's also say that A. Hernandez was not the only person to go as far as he did. He just got caught.Yes - can you give a few examples of things that didn't get reported that we'd be shocked by?
OJ Simpson was the head of one of the toughest gang in Oakland.Tons of gang related issues. Let's also say that A. Hernandez was not the only person to go as far as he did. He just got caught.
Each team has a handful of players that you would not step outside the football field with.
Most of the current ones are based out of Fla and GaOJ Simpson was the head of toughest gang in Oakland.
Wow, okay that's more hard core than I was expecting. CrazyTons of gang related issues. Let's also say that A. Hernandez was not the only person to go as far as he did. He just got caught.
Each team has a handful of players that you would not step outside the football field with.
There would be at least 1 or more AH situation per team.Wow, okay that's more hard core than I was expecting. Crazy
I was a Phils fan so I like Utley but the Rapelesberger and Lewis should be in prison. I barely heard of the other guy.The only player that ever really annoyed me was Utley. Everything about him just screamed that he is a dick.
Two players in football also piss me off a ton. Big old rapist Ben- R . Dude should have never seen a football field again, much less walk away free.
Ray Lewis- Paster Ray or whatever he considers himself. Holds himself to be holier than though and talks crap about players who may cross the lines and fans all over the country and media love this guy. POS with no regard to human life.
Greg Hardy - Out of all the "thugs" my son met in the NFL -and funny thing is- the worst of the worst came from the SEC and 80% of what they do never gets reported. And you would be shocked of many of the things. But this POS was the most evil person he had ever met.
Put Russell Westbrook on the list. Guy is crying about fans taunting him with “Westbrick” chants. He’s making $44M this year not including endorsements and isn’t doing his job. Pretty sure his legacy will be fine. GMAFB:
"'Westbrick,' for example, to me, is now shaming," he said, referring to a condescending nickname that makes the rounds online seemingly whenever he has a poor performance. "It's shaming my name, my legacy for my kids. It's a name that means, not just to me, but to my wife, to my mom, my dad, the ones that kind of paved the way for me."
my dislike is purely as a Met's fan...lol just never liked the guy but damn- good ass ball playerI was a Phils fan so I like Utley but the Rapelesberger and Lewis should be in prison. I barely heard of the other guy.
Really sucks that the media disregard the criminal/violent history of players they put in the spotlight. There are so many good guys that play and the ESPNs of the world ignore them,
Yeah I figured. And I get it.my dislike is purely as a Met's fan...lol just never liked the guy but damn- good ass ball player
I just happen to decide to read and now weigh into this thread. And you know I respect you but that is such a pussy response. He has every right to do what you suggest but if he can't use his position to forego even more cash and stand up internationally for the same rights he's a phoney.Sorry, I have no feelings whatsoever about Lebron. No dislike, no hatred, no love, nothing. And I try to not judge people based on what I see in the media. If people aren't going out of their way to habitually and intentionally harm other people, then I don't care if they hold different viewpoints on stuff, I see no value whatsoever in forming strong dislikes or hatred for them.
I strongly suspect that, if you sat down with the guy over a beer, you'd find out that he loves his country as much as you do and that y'all just have some different things about our country you'd like to see improved. It's just like liberals and conservatives, who are forever insisting that folks on the "other side" hate their country. Which is, of course, a completely false mischaracterization born of the need to demonize what we don't understand.
Incidentally, criticizing our country is a fundamental right we should ALL exercise when we feel it's warranted. And we're not going to all agree about when it's warranted and when it's not - that's something that is pretty intimately tied to our unique individual perspectives, and those vary widely. It's a fundamentally American thing, to be able to freely criticize our country.
So maybe he’s a phony. I am saying I don’t care about him. I don’t keep a list of people to dislike.I just happen to decide to read and now weigh into this thread. And you know I respect you but that is such a pussy response. He has every right to do what you suggest but if he can't use his position to forego even more cash and stand up internationally for the same rights he's a phoney.
Why do you think I took so long to wiegh in? I don't hate anyone enough to keep some list either. But when you put yourself ought there you put yourself out there. ( Him not you).So maybe he’s a phony. I am saying I don’t care about him. I don’t keep a list of people to dislike.
There are tons of people all over the world who don’t behave the way I wish they would. Why should I single out LJ? Assuming the narrative is even true, you think he’s the first pro athlete to look out for himself and do virtually nothing meaningful to make the world a better place? The first wealthy person to do unethical stuff to earn money?
Are all those other athletes on your dislike list?
I’m way more concerned with how I behave and how I make my way through life to be making lists of folks, whom I only know through the media, who don’t live their lives to my standard, such as it is.
I’ll make fun of such people, but I am not about to form and hold onto a grudge. If I did, I’d need a lot more computing power to keep track of them all. LJ would be one of billions.
L.ol. you're just analyzing him as a fielding # 6. How simplified given his value as captain and clutch plays/batting.I don’t hate Jeter but for a player who was never the best at his position during his career to be idolized as much as any player ever is lame. On the Brewers he’d not be Yount or Molitor caliber, two ‘lesser’ hall of famers.
Least favorite: OJ
Some would say a real captain would have switched positions and let Arod play SS to make his team better.L.ol. you're just analyzing him as a fielding # 6. How simplified given his value as captain and clutch plays/batting.
Lol. Now you're comparing ARods character to Derek's. This thread went from whatever the frack it was to This lol. IDK. iDk, iDK..Some would say a real captain would have switched positions and let Arod play SS to make his team better.
I don’t hate Jeter but for a player who was never the best at his position during his career to be idolized as much as any player ever is lame. On the Brewers he’d not be Yount or Molitor caliber, two ‘lesser’ hall of famers.
Least favorite: OJ
Didn’t say anything about Arods character. Was replying to the post about what a great captain jeter was. A great captain who is a terrible defensive shortstop could have switched positions for an elite defender, no?Lol. Now you're comparing ARods character to Derek's. This thread went from whatever the frack it was to This lol. IDK. iDk, iDK..
Chris I got way more more to things to worry.about like guys like you if you're still on the job if I don't have you confirmed. Meaning your safety sir.
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Should live in China since they treat all their citizens so wellThe hatred of Lebron James is hysterical. The best player in NBA history who actually has the audacity to comment on the inequities and unfairness in our society is pilloried for his views. A player who has lived his life the right way. Just shows that people are not judged on their character but on “other” things. The critics can live in their denial of things, in the end it’s not going to really matter.
You're saying LeBron should live in China? Why is that? Should Mitch McConnell? The former guy with all his Chinese trademarks?(Trump Escorts) Ivanka, who had all her clothes made there? Should they live in China as well?Should live in China since they treat all their citizens so well
A real Captain would not have snorted drugsSome would say a real captain would have switched positions and let Arod play SS to make his team better.
I lived In the bay area during Simpson's yearsSimpson was born and raised in San Francisco, across the Bay, not Oakland. He was in a gang early in his teen-age years, but he dropped out after encouragement from Willie Mays. Simpson was too young to achieve a leadership position.
My kid and her friends really knew nothing about the image of either of them.A real Captain would not have snorted drugs
in the dugout during a game.
Also Jeter had many great post season games
leading theYanks to several World championships.
while A roid had one decent post season.
You're comparing a cheating druggie to a man who set a good public image to our kids.
Nope, not comparing, Arod is a POS. Just pointing out that the captain was a historically bad defensive shortstop and made an elite shortstop change positions. Not very captain likeA real Captain would not have snorted drugs
in the dugout during a game.
Also Jeter had many great post season games
leading theYanks to several World championships.
while A roid had one decent post season.
You're comparing a cheating druggie to a man who set a good public image to our kids.
I’d like to remove former boxer Hector Macho Camacho from my list. Just learned that a crew capped him in PR in 2012. May he RIP.This could be a very long list. Here are some of my top choices.
Baseball - Bobby Bonilla, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson
Boxing - Hector Macho Camacho
Hockey- Bobby Clarke, Derek Sanderson
Bobby Bo is the undisputed king on my list.
Jeter was not a bad short stop. HE WAS VERYNope, not comparing, Arod is a POS. Just pointing out that the captain was a historically bad defensive shortstop and made an elite shortstop change positions. Not very captain like
Very good point, he didn't make many errors. Because he didn't get to balls that 95% of other shortstops do. He was not a good defensive shortstop, not even close. As you'll see below, by some metrics he was the worst defensive shortstop over the last 20 years. Great guy, clutch hitter, terrible range, should have moved to let ARod play shortstop are all facts.Jeter was not a bad short stop. HE WAS VERY
GOOD and did not make many errors. and I watched over a thousand of his games don't
listen to jealous Met fans.
I forgot Charles OakleyAlex Rodriguez
Reggie Jackson
Charles Barkley
LeBron James
O J Simpson