OT: Milo Yiannopoulos & the PC Culture at Rutgers

[RUhasarrived]

The NY Post's editorial board has chimed in with a less scathing denunciation of the alleged students that I would have written,but let that go for now.

I feel confident that these very same students will be out in full force protesting Morgan State next year for their use of our money to hire Louis Farrakhan to speak on their campus,an occasion upon which he urged the students to "tear down America."

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Milo Yiannopoulos decided to try to get rich by trolling SJW. He is really good at it.

Now you may agree or disagree that some of that trolling goes too far but but that is all that he is doing.

 

[lighty]

"Conservatards" would be one of those tolerant nicknames that Liberals espouse, right?

It's exactly as stupid as "libtards" --- imo, when someone has to use stupid nicknames like those they've automatically lost the argument...

 

[mal359]

Milo Yiannopoulos decided to try to get rich by trolling SJW. He is really good at it.

Now you may agree or disagree that some of that trolling goes too far but but that is all that he is doing.

Le epic troele.

How is one to have an "adult, intellectual" conversation with a troll?

 

[RU_Planning]

The first amendment protects one's freedom of speech from the government, but it doesn't protect one from getting their ass kicked. If these rabble rousers had to face those consequences they would find a different line of work.

I find it difficult to believe that one can expect peaceful protest in the face of such blatant and outrageous antagonization. We could hope, but tough to expect, because the rabble rousers just want to incite this behavior for their own promotion and it is disgusting.

 

[mdk01]

The first amendment protects one's freedom of speech from the government, but it doesn't protect one from getting their ass kicked.

Correct. Criminal assault statues deal with that.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Le epic troele.

How is one to have an "adult, intellectual" conversation with a troll?

Watch his interviews on youtube, it is all an act, well besides the fact that he really hates SJWs. He is clearly saying things that he knows will trigger SJWs on purpose.

He is just a clown, nothing to get all riled up about.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Yesterday, Milo Yiannopoulos, who runs Breitbart Tech, was invited to speak at RU by the Young Americans for Liberty at Rutgers. His topic was "How the Progressive Left is Destroying Education".

Well, the social justice warriors didn't want their groupthink culture to be attacked. Chaos ensued, and if RU doesn't reprimand the students that desecrated the school, they will never get another penny from me. PC culture at its worst.

http://www.breitbart.com/education/...ed-by-feminists-black-lives-matter-activists/

What's all this about the PC culture? Personal Computers are the foundation of the new America!

 

[RU_Planning]

Correct. Criminal assault statues deal with that.

So you are okay with the tough guy at the bar that talks smack and then hides behind security?

Ultimately that is what we have here. It is not about having a conversation or exercising their 1st amendment rights, it is about riling up the opposition because they know the opposition can't do anything about it.

 

[mdk01]

So you are okay with the tough guy at the bar that talks smack and then hides behind security?

Ultimately that is what we have here. It is not about having a conversation or exercising their 1st amendment rights, it is about riling up the opposition because they know the opposition can't do anything about it.

I'm as OK with the tough guy at the bar hiding behind security as I am with demonstrators chanting "Pigs in a blanket. Fry'em like bacon." or "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!"

 

[RU_Planning]

I'm as OK with the tough guy at the bar hiding behind security as I am with demonstrators chanting "Pigs in a blanket. Fry'em like bacon." or "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!"

I am saying it goes both ways. However, I am not sure any behavior by the people this Milo character chooses to chastise has lead to deaths.

There is also a difference between uncontrolled behavior by some within a large group and 1 individual that chooses to antagonize for their own selfish reasons.

 

[RUsSKii]

So you are okay with the tough guy at the bar that talks smack and then hides behind security?

Ultimately that is what we have here. It is not about having a conversation or exercising their 1st amendment rights, it is about riling up the opposition because they know the opposition can't do anything about it.

Yes; it's the tough guy's First Amendment right to talk all he wants and be a pompous blowhard. At no point does that right extend to physically laying a hand on or throwing something at me; if that were to occur, I reserve the right to smash his face in, and then have security kick his ass out.

 

[mdk01]

I am saying it goes both ways. However, I am not sure any behavior by the people this Milo character chooses to chastise has lead to deaths.
.

Do a little research into Al Sharpton and 7 deaths at Freddy's.

 

[Caliknight]

So you are okay with the tough guy at the bar that talks smack and then hides behind security?QUOTE]

It's all in the ears of the beholder. People like our Prez have wised up to the point that some think deserve an @ss kicking. But if you did that you should be prosecuted.

Protesting is fine. Protesting to the point where you are stopping people from speaking is no longer protesting.

They should have stayed out side and bathed in and drank fake blood all they want. Once they went in and caused disturbances and threw the blood on people, they deserved to have their asses kicked. Too bad it didn't happen.

 

[Caliknight]

So you are okay with the tough guy at the bar that talks smack and then hides behind security?

Ultimately that is what we have here. It is not about having a conversation or exercising their 1st amendment rights, it is about riling up the opposition because they know the opposition can't do anything about it.

It's all in the ears of the beholder. People like our Prez have wised up to the point that some think deserve an @ss kicking. But if you did that you should be prosecuted.

Protesting is fine. Protesting to the point where you are stopping people from speaking is no longer protesting.

They should have stayed out side and bathed in and drank fake blood all they want. Once they went in and caused disturbances and threw the blood on people, they deserved to have their asses kicked. Too bad it didn't happen.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I like you congratulating milo...

But do you really want to criticize Condi Rice for having the class not to make Rutgers Graduation a spectacle?

She spoke at BC graduation and was protested. Do you think the BC alums and family even remember?

The bottom line is, if you have convictions, you stick up for them. The number of graduation speakers nationally who have been protested is huge and the next day the amount of people who have cared is next to nill.

Somebody like Bernie Sanders speaking at Liberty or Rand Paul speaking to the NAACP...tells you these are strong guys with conviction. We need more of that. I don't care which side of the aisle it comes from.

 

[redlight123]

Would the black game be considered racist?

 

[NorthernKnight]

She spoke at BC graduation and was protested. Do you think the BC alums and family even remember?

The bottom line is, if you have convictions, you stick up for them. The number of graduation speakers nationally who have been protested is huge and the next day the amount of people who have cared is next to nill.

Somebody like Bernie Sanders speaking at Liberty or Rand Paul speaking to the NAACP...tells you these are strong guys with conviction. We need more of that. I don't care which side of the aisle it comes from.

Remember this post and the standard you just set when you make you make your future posts...

 

[jonS]

Yesterday, Milo Yiannopoulos, who runs Breitbart Tech, was invited to speak at RU by the Young Americans for Liberty at Rutgers. His topic was "How the Progressive Left is Destroying Education".

Well, the social justice warriors didn't want their groupthink culture to be attacked. Chaos ensued, and if RU doesn't reprimand the students that desecrated the school, they will never get another penny from me. PC culture at its worst.

http://www.breitbart.com/education/...ed-by-feminists-black-lives-matter-activists/

I agree. Higher education has never more greatly failed the American people. Instead of being a place of intellectual challenge and stimulation , it's become just the opposite. Every so-called "studies curriculum" should be shut down and ridden from course offerings. They are nothing more than political indoctrination disguised as a studies program. Net result are brain dead idiots who are so insecure in their beliefs they are intellectually incapable of mounting a credible defense of their position.

 

[RU-Nation]

Rutgers Students Hold Group Therapy Session After Milo Yiannopoulos Visit

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...herapy-session-after-milo-yiannopoulos-visit/

Whether or not you agree with Milo Yiannopoulos, or heck even if you don't know who he is, are we all on the same page in thinking this is the most fragile and weakest generation in our country's history? I don't know how you can read this and have any other conclusion. The quotes from students are mind boggling. Fearing for your safety? Seriously?

 

[RU4Real]

Rutgers Students Hold Group Therapy Session After Milo Yiannopoulos Visit
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...herapy-session-after-milo-yiannopoulos-visit/
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...herapy-session-after-milo-yiannopoulos-visit/

Whether or not you agree with Milo Yiannopoulos, or heck even if you don't know who he is, are we all on the same page in thinking this is the most fragile and weakest generation in our country's history? I don't know how you can read this and have any other conclusion. The quotes from students are mind boggling. Fearing for your safety? Seriously?

The idea that students, a week after the fact, gathered and "were crying" and claiming to be afraid to walk the campus because of a simple presentation is absolutely sickening.

 

[mdk01]

I don't think this is the weakest and most fragile generation in our history. Look at the performance of their peers in the military.

What I DO (!!!) think is that this generation, more than any in the past, is being TOLD by a troubling number of official departments and organizations that they ARE weak and fragile.

 

[RU4Real]

I don't think this is the weakest and most fragile generation in our history. Look at the performance of their peers in the military.

What I DO (!!!) think is that this generation, more than any in the past, is being TOLD by a troubling number of official departments and organizations that they ARE weak and fragile.

I'm not confident with respect to any agreement with your statement.

Popular in military (and emergency services) circles is the notion that there are Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs. There will always be some mix of those three types of people. It just seems that with this generation the number of Sheep is increasing. Because it's a zero-sum thing that means, by definition, that there is a corresponding decrease in the number of Wolves and Sheepdogs.

Sadly, I'm not confident that the commensurate decrease is among the former.

 

[Caliknight]

I am saying it goes both ways. However, I am not sure any behavior by the people this Milo character chooses to chastise has lead to deaths.

There is also a difference between uncontrolled behavior by some within a large group and 1 individual that chooses to antagonize for their own selfish reasons.

They are getting close. These Black Lives Matter thugs assaulted a marine vet and beat him unconscious.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2807756/ma...t-vet-unconscious-in-heinous-act-of-violence/

 

[RUScrew85]

The first amendment protects one's freedom of speech from the government, but it doesn't protect one from getting their ass kicked. If these rabble rousers had to face those consequences they would find a different line of work.

I find it difficult to believe that one can expect peaceful protest in the face of such blatant and outrageous antagonization. We could hope, but tough to expect, because the rabble rousers just want to incite this behavior for their own promotion and it is disgusting.

Sounds like some here is a special snowflake too.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

This thread is absolutely awful. Well Done!!!

 

[grbRU09]

Once Milo stops playing the audience for laughs and shock value a few minutes into every speech of his, you'll notice that he doesn't actually further any political positions that are reprehensible or beyond the pale. Ann Coulter is actually way more extreme in that respect. Milo's primary viewpoints center around the contention that feminism in the past 20 years or so has jumped the shark and is actually starting to harm men (it has and it is), campus rape statistics are being wildly misrepresented by feminists and left wingers (they are), the gender pay gap, if any such gap exists, is not the result of institutional discrimination (true), black lives matter is a movement hell bent on silencing dissent in lieu of engaging in any meaningful dialogue (obviously true), and mainstream media, regardless of their motivations, refuse to fact check and continue to perpetrate a lot of these divisive myths.

There's nothing in his message that should send ordinary people, even New Deal-type liberals, into fits of rage or panic. Of course, today's liberal college student is very far removed from being a regular person. It's just a shame that our Alma mater is once again at the center of a faux social justice outrage.

 

[mal359]

The idea that students, a week after the fact, gathered and "were crying" and claiming to be afraid to walk the campus because of a simple presentation is absolutely sickening.

This isn't what happened at all lol.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I don't think this is the weakest and most fragile generation in our history. Look at the performance of their peers in the military.

What I DO (!!!) think is that this generation, more than any in the past, is being TOLD by a troubling number of official departments and organizations that they ARE weak and fragile.

We inherited the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and are actually rebounding pretty strongly. And we're also the first generation to really grow up with terrorism in its current form and send lots of great soldiers to defend the country.

A lot of the older generation don't like millenials because they don't agree with their perceived political outlook, which is common for every generation. Some of it, as this board demonstrates often, is the inability of the older generation to understand technology. And whether they want to admit it or not, the boomers in particular and even Generation X had it pretty nice in terms of the economy, especially considering they had little if any student loans, and not plenty of them studied art history and philosophy too. But CUNY and the University of California used to be free, and going to college used to actually guarantee a stable job. Some older folks (I find especially ones without kids or grandkids who are millenials) just want to be in denial and/or afraid of younger people.

One day, hopefully the millenials, will not be the generation of "damn those Beatles/disco/Nirvana/hip hop/EDM" or "long hair freak/man bun" or "bellbottoms/slim jeans" or "record player/cassette player/walkman/ipod" types.

 

[RUScrew85]

Once Milo stops playing the audience for laughs and shock value a few minutes into every speech of his, you'll notice that he doesn't actually further any political positions that are reprehensible or beyond the pale. Ann Coulter is actually way more extreme in that respect. Milo's primary viewpoints center around the contention that feminism in the past 20 years or so has jumped the shark and is actually starting to harm men (it has and it is), campus rape statistics are being wildly misrepresented by feminists and left wingers (they are), the gender pay gap, if any such gap exists, is not the result of institutional discrimination (true), black lives matter is a movement hell bent on silencing dissent in lieu of engaging in any meaningful dialogue (obviously true), and mainstream media, regardless of their motivations, refuse to fact check and continue to perpetrate a lot of these divisive myths.

There's nothing in his message that should send ordinary people, even New Deal-type liberals, into fits of rage or panic. Of course, today's liberal college student is very far removed from being a regular person. It's just a shame that our Alma mater is once again at the center of a faux social justice outrage.

I know a bridge all of our new SJWs in training can jump off of.

 

[mal359]

And yet, the RWCJ goes apeshit when professors and students exercise their free speech to voice opinions that they don't like.

I think there needs to be a conservative "safe space" on campus.

 

[NorthernKnight]

And yet, the RWCJ goes apeshit when professors and students exercise their free speech to voice opinions that they don't like.

I think there needs to be a conservative "safe space" on campus.

Another generalized straw man argument....

 

[mdk01]

We inherited the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and are actually rebounding pretty strongly. And we're also the first generation to really grow up with terrorism in its current form and send lots of great soldiers to defend the country.

A lot of the older generation don't like millenials because they don't agree with their perceived political outlook, which is common for every generation. Some of it, as this board demonstrates often, is the inability of the older generation to understand technology. And whether they want to admit it or not, the boomers in particular and even Generation X had it pretty nice in terms of the economy, especially considering they had little if any student loans, and not plenty of them studied art history and philosophy too. But CUNY and the University of California used to be free, and going to college used to actually guarantee a stable job. Some older folks (I find especially ones without kids or grandkids who are millenials) just want to be in denial and/or afraid of younger people.

One day, hopefully the millenials, will not be the generation of "damn those Beatles/disco/Nirvana/hip hop/EDM" or "long hair freak/man bun" or "bellbottoms/slim jeans" or "record player/cassette player/walkman/ipod" types.

HOLY STRAWMAN AND STEREOTYPE, BATMAN !!!

Perhaps the only valid point you made was wit respect to student loans.

1. No, Boomers didn't grow up with terrorism. They grew up with "duck and cover", the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam.

2. 2008 was indeed an economic crisis. However the 1973-4 Oil Embargo and the stagnation from 1979-82 weren't exactly walks in the park. In fact, when speaking of unemployment, they weren't very different from 2008-9. Talk to an art history or philosophy major who graduated in 1974-5 or between 1979-82. You'll find many more similarities than differences to what recent graduates face. Oh, and you are probably too young to remember this joke from the early 90's:

Q. "How do you address a recent MBA grad?"

A. "Busboy!"

Oh, and for the record, disco sucks!

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

all of you SHADDUP

 

[NotInRHouse]

HOLY STRAWMAN AND STEREOTYPE, BATMAN !!!

Perhaps the only valid point you made was wit respect to student loans.

1. No, Boomers didn't grow up with terrorism. They grew up with "duck and cover", the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam.

2. 2008 was indeed an economic crisis. However the 1973-4 Oil Embargo and the stagnation from 1979-82 weren't exactly walks in the park. In fact, when speaking of unemployment, they weren't very different from 2008-9. Talk to an art history or philosophy major who graduated in 1974-5 or between 1979-82. You'll find many more similarities than differences to what recent graduates face. Oh, and you are probably too young to remember this joke from the early 90's:

Q. "How do you address a recent MBA grad?"

A. "Busboy!"

Oh, and for the record, disco sucks!

I think think 9-11 and Boston and things like that are different, not more or less scary, just create a different mentality.

The difference with crises is the cost of education (among other things) but that is a huge change for this genration.

 

[Caliknight]

HOLY STRAWMAN AND STEREOTYPE, BATMAN !!!

Perhaps the only valid point you made was wit respect to student loans.

1. No, Boomers didn't grow up with terrorism. They grew up with "duck and cover", the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam.

2. 2008 was indeed an economic crisis. However the 1973-4 Oil Embargo and the stagnation from 1979-82 weren't exactly walks in the park. In fact, when speaking of unemployment, they weren't very different from 2008-9. Talk to an art history or philosophy major who graduated in 1974-5 or between 1979-82. You'll find many more similarities than differences to what recent graduates face. Oh, and you are probably too young to remember this joke from the early 90's:

Q. "How do you address a recent MBA grad?"

A. "Busboy!"

Oh, and for the record, disco sucks!

Millenials. They think they invented tough times.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

Millenials. They think they invented tough times.

There's nothing as tough as the present. Always been so.

 

[Caliknight]

There's nothing as tough as the present. Always been so.

Speak for yourself!

 

[SkilletHead2]

Yiannopoulous, who is a professional jerk, has a right to speak. Students, who are frequently naive, have a right to protest. Alumni, who love to be outraged, have a right to be outraged. Churchill, who was a brilliant leader in WWII and substantially less so in WWI, never said the quote attributed to him earlier in this thread. Christopher Marquez, an Iraq war hero, was attacked by a group of black teenagers, not Black Lives Matter activists.

The important question is who is going to be the starting QB next year.

 

[brgossRU90]

This is part of a larger issue I've seen develop on both left and right over my lifetime: people don't know when to say when. They start with a philosophy and then they take it to so far that they often end up in a place almost diametrically opposed to where they started from. In cases like this protesting speech has turned into attempts to silence it altogether, which is the opposite of an open forum of ideas. An example on the right is the idea of less government taken so far that we now have people arguing for no government whatsoever in areas of American life--which is essentially anarchy, which is far left.