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Who the F’k knows, it’s the committee that puts players in who can’t sniff induction via the sport writers.So wait what’s this committee now??
Who the F’k knows, it’s the committee that puts players in who can’t sniff induction via the sport writers.
Yet guys like McGriff, Belle and Kent don’t get in... go figure
This should be one of the greatest mysteries of all time.What about Gil Hodges? I can't figure out why he's not in. Great Player and outstanding Manager
Zap led the NL in intentional walks in 1983.Zappa for The Hall!
If you were talking about something like the HOF, I'd agree with you. To worry about what a single team does to honor players that have played a big role in the teams history, is a little overkill, no? Why Munson, but no Jeter-you can start some pretty silly arguements over this. That said, I kinda agree with you that Posada and Bernie may be overkill, but they do represent an entire generation of Yankee Championships.Very similar to the NY Yankees. They retire a number at the drop of a hat.
The only numbers that deserve being retired are:
3 - Babe Ruth
4 - Lou Gehrig
5 - Joe Dimaggio
7 - Mickey Mantle
8 - Yogi Berra
9 - Roger Maris
15 - Thurman Munson
16 - Whitey Ford
49 - Ron Guidry
The others? Great players, great careers, that can have their numbers placed in a Ring Of Honor, but not retired....... if they had played in a small market... they would have only been recognized as being a very good player.
He played for 22 years, how much healthier could he have been?Baines had over 2800 hits and over 1600 rbi. If he had stayed healthy and stayed in outfield think people would not be so negative about him. And we know that the media did not like Albert Belle.
Why stop there...lolZap led the NL in intentional walks in 1983.
This is Yankee stuff.Very similar to the NY Yankees. They retire a number at the drop of a hat.
The only numbers that deserve being retired are:
3 - Babe Ruth
4 - Lou Gehrig
5 - Joe Dimaggio
7 - Mickey Mantle
8 - Yogi Berra
9 - Roger Maris
15 - Thurman Munson
16 - Whitey Ford
49 - Ron Guidry
The others? Great players, great careers, that can have their numbers placed in a Ring Of Honor, but not retired....... if they had played in a small market... they would have only been recognized as being a very good player.
Very similar to the NY Yankees. They retire a number at the drop of a hat.
The only numbers that deserve being retired are:
3 - Babe Ruth
4 - Lou Gehrig
5 - Joe Dimaggio
7 - Mickey Mantle
8 - Yogi Berra
9 - Roger Maris
15 - Thurman Munson
16 - Whitey Ford
49 - Ron Guidry
The others? Great players, great careers, that can have their numbers placed in a Ring Of Honor, but not retired....... if they had played in a small market... they would have only been recognized as being a very good player.
This is a good example of, “if you have to think about it...” are they HoFers?I saw two guys reach best player in their league status... Dave Parker was the best all around player in the National league for a few years as well.
You can make a strong case for Ricky Henderson too, nobody was better at producing runs than that man in his prime
Good call, I had the same argument with my brother this morning about Lee Smith... hesitant.This is a good example of, “if you have to think about it...” are they HoFers?
Rickey Henderson? No thinking required.
Dave Parker? Causes one to pause IMO.
I’m not much into the analytics thing other than what you write down on a scorecard.
They wanted to keep you out of it Camden...lol.Note to mods: why doesn't this thread appear on the list of threads??
I use the Big Red Machine as an example...Good call, I had the same argument with my brother this morning about Lee Smith... hesitant.
Tony Perez... HmmmI use the Big Red Machine as an example...
Johnny Bench. No thinking
Joe Morgan. No thinking
Pete Rose. Aside from the other stuff, which does matter, no thinking.
Dave Concepcion. Hmmm.
The rest. Nah.
In the “nah” column IMO. But you would know better than me there.Tony Perez... Hmmm
No I wouldn’t, that’s why I’m here conversing with you.In the “nah” column IMO. But you would know better than me there.
The eye ball test (over time) works too.No I wouldn’t, that’s why I’m here conversing with you.
You’re opinion is as valuable as mine.
Now if you want to know how to pitch him and defend him... then defer to me
The eye ball test (over time) works too.
Don Sutton? The numbers (I think) say yes but...
Reggie Jackson? Yeah, without a doubt IMO.
563 dingers makes him automaticHow could anyone doubt Reggie Jackson. "I'm the straw that stirs the drink!" he said.
How could anyone doubt Reggie Jackson. "I'm the straw that stirs the drink!" he said.
But the average and the strikeouts was the ammo for some.563 dingers makes him automatic
Best 2nd baseman I ever saw, period.The one I have a problem with is Bill Mazeroski who hit what .260 for his career.
Zap led the NL in intentional walks in 1983.
Interesting historical story last month on 19th century Hall Of Famer pitcher Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn. Somebody noticed something "unusual" about Radbourn in the 1884 team photo:
https://www.azsnakepit.com/2018/11/...s-insane-1884-season-and-a-photographic-first
Very similar to the NY Yankees. They retire a number at the drop of a hat.
The only numbers that deserve being retired are:
3 - Babe Ruth
4 - Lou Gehrig
5 - Joe Dimaggio
7 - Mickey Mantle
8 - Yogi Berra
9 - Roger Maris
15 - Thurman Munson
16 - Whitey Ford
49 - Ron Guidry
The others? Great players, great careers, that can have their numbers placed in a Ring Of Honor, but not retired....... if they had played in a small market... they would have only been recognized as being a very good player.
Why stop there...lol
I led the league with 10 sacrifice flies one year, and tied Pete Rose’s all time record for causing catchers interference.:D
Hey, it ain’t much but I played enough games to do it
This is a good example of, “if you have to think about it...” are they HoFers?
Rickey Henderson? No thinking required.
Dave Parker? Causes one to pause IMO.
I’m not much into the analytics thing other than what you write down on a scorecard.
Almost as good as Joel Youngblood’s, right @zappaa? LOLParker on his arm alone. LOL
Defensively!Best 2nd baseman I ever saw, period.
563 dingers makes him automatic
Oops forgot about Mario ........ yes he qualifiesThis is Yankee stuff.
Elston Howard #32, first black player and my dad’s best friend.
#8 Bill Dickey was the epitome of the Yankee aura.
#2, Derek Jeter certainly belongs.
Mariano as well.
#1 Billy, no way.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hodgegi01.shtmlWhat about Gil Hodges? I can't figure out why he's not in. Great Player and outstanding Manager