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You don’t have to. Believe he’s just pointing you’re wrong at Rogan argues against the moon landing being faked.
My point is only that it is tin foil talk and OP said that it made him question..,
I think the chem trails people should get a few votes.
Exactly.
If I have time to waste, I'd rather waste it on something far more entertaining and useful than listening to some dude I never heard of talk to another dude I never heard of about laughably paranoid conspiracy theories (or pretty much anything else).
There is just so much more useful and entertaining stuff out there. For instance: sheep porn, how-to guides on determining the sound of one hand clapping, and deciding who would win in a hypothetical fight between a tiger and a gorilla.
Of course, each to their own (although everybody loves sheep porn, right?).
so you didn't listen yet... Not saying he's right or wrong but he certainly brings up some valid questions like the radiation issue and the advancement of technology. It has nothing to do w/ how confident he sounded
I believe others on this thread noted that he got the radiation issue completely wrong. I assume you aren't an expert or scientist such that you could evaluate his radiation claim directly. So you have to decide who you believe. What led you to believe that a taxi driver's take on the radiation issue might be correct over that of NASA among others?
Other's here also noted that the technology advancement issue doesn't hold up logically. We don't get any real value from putting humans on the moon. It was a cold war milestone to prove we were better than the Russians. So why spend limited dollars doing that, for the 7th, 8th, 9th time? What do we get out that? It's not that we don't have the technology to go to the moon. It's that there is no reason to go.
I'm sure I could also make up cool sounding reasons why it was fake that are equally baseless. Why would you believe me over NASA? Maybe if I went on Joe Rogan...
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Nope not a radiation expert by any means but as the guy said NASA is the one telling us the radiation is safe, the same people behind the moon landing so of course they say it’s safe. Multiple presidents have said we will return to the moon but hasn’t happened again.
The whole point of the OP was that it’s a very interesting theory. It’s not like our government hasn’t conned us before
You can't trust NASA not to lie about the radiation because they have a motive to lie....IF they faked the moon landing. So why do we think they faked the moon landing, and thus have a motive to lie? Because of the radiation.
Why do you think listening will change things?
People did listen. And they said what the guy was spewing was BS, not all the interesting, etc.
Why are you pretending that people criticizing this guy haven’t heard his spiel before?
The question should not only be "Did you listen?" the question should also be, "Did you check any other sources to check the hypothesis presented?"
Regarding the Van Allen Belt - took me about 1 minute to find this....and no, its not from NASA or the Gov't.
Sounds more and more like you're with the whole fake moon landing theory.
Regarding your comments on the Government conning us.....do you not significantly question the extent, financial impact and level of the Government "Con" that would have to be put in place over several Presidents, Government/NASA Officials over the period of a decade to fake the following?
- 4 Saturn Test Missions leading up to Apollo - some of which failed
- 7 Little Joe Test missions - some of which also failed
- Apollo 4 - 6 Unmanned Test Flights
- Apollo 7-9 Manned Test Missions
- Apollo 10 - Circumvented the Moon (no Lunar landing)
- Apollo 11-12 - Manned Missions to the Lunar Surface
- Apollo 13 - Failed Manned Mission
- Apollo 14 -17 Manned Missions to the Lunar Surface
He's doing what conspiracy theorists do. Attack where he can, further the questions/innuendo while ignoring anything that might be valid or require a thoughtful response.
You sound like Kyrie Irving digging in on the Flat Earth Theory. The whole fake moon landing arguments are lunatic fringe. But, grats on being curious and interested.
Along with a ride to the System in Highland Park or the White Castle on Rte. 1.
Chemtrails are cloud seeding projects and stratospheric aerosol injections, done by state and federal agencies. Look it up. It’s nothing new. It’s at the very least weather altering. I would advise researching cloud seeding before making any judgements.
Playing with weather via aircraft has at least been documented since Vietnam to flood areas to reduce the north’s troop and vehicle movement, also known as project Popeye.
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The logic of the conspiracy theorist goes like this: of course they would have to fake some test runs to make it plausible. The Presidents didn’t want to embarrass the country, or they were fooled themselves. And any plot large enough to do all that could afford to hire some guy to lie about the Van Allen Belt in an internet video!
Tell me you had a bad nights sleep and an argument with ya lady before listening to that garbage
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Firmly believe we need conspiracy theorists. Otherwise you’d constantly hear everyone shout “conspiracy theorist!” at too many things that turn out to be true.
Which one??? Linden or Menlo Park?? Always a stop on my way to my son's house when I leave the airport!!!!
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If anyone thinks we actually landed on the moon after watching this, then you are the epitome of drinking the Kool-Aid
If anyone thinks we actually landed on the moon after watching this, then you are the epitome of drinking the Kool-Aid
Humans are flawed! We have always been flawed. Our weakness is that we're biased and we have egos. That gets balanced out somewhat by our curiosity. There is nothing wrong about questioning something and being curious, but you have the responsibility to seek out truth. And Newell, I think you did yourself and us disservice, you listened to the podcast, you started to question things, but you failed to go look at other resources. Instead of looking for resources on your own, you chose to post on a sports forum and now your ego is hurt. This then makes you believe the original content even more. But don't worry, we have and will continue to fall in this trap, myself included ... our brains are too fragile to be able to process the amount of information we have available to us these days through social media and other mediums.
Also, please be team yourself, don't be team Rogan, team Biden, team Trump ... always question every single person ... by associating yourself to a team, you let your ego get hurt when someone says something negative about your team. So the best thing to do is say that everyone is flawed, including yourself and that you're open to seeing someone's else point.
P.S. I worked at NASA for 8 years on the crewed flight side, plenty of other Rutgers alums have worked there as well. Reach out to us, we have expertise in specific fields and if we don't know the answer, I'm sure we can relay you to someone who does.
Also, please be team yourself, don't be team Rogan, team Biden, team Trump ... always question every single person ... by associating yourself to a team, you let your ego get hurt when someone says something negative about your team. So the best thing to do is say that everyone is flawed, including yourself and that you're open to seeing someone's else point.
P.S. I worked at NASA for 8 years on the crewed flight side, plenty of other Rutgers alums have worked there as well. Reach out to us, we have expertise in specific fields and if we don't know the answer, I'm sure we can relay you to someone who does.
thanks for your input and yes this is a sports message board but also a community where many things are discussed. Don't worry, my ego is certainly not hurt in the least. I put it out there for discussion as i found it interesting. RUinsanity had a great response and it was appreciated. Our government is certainly capable of deceit and corruption, that is certainly not up for debate.
Like any video it can be edited to get a certain response from the viewer.
IMO what we need more of is critical thinking and actions - especially regarding trying to make a positive impact going forward towards things in general. It's OK to try and poke holes and always question things. But if you take a step back and look at this from a higher level - this guy (Sibrel) has spent 50 years of his life devoted to his conspiracy theory to try and prove a negative. Imagine if he put all that energy and persistence into something positive - such as researching / trying to help solve the issues he is saying that NASA never overcame (for instance the radiation belt).
While not directly related to Moon landing, don't forget the "Transit" Program (USN/DARPA/APL - predecessor to GPS) going on at the same time, which is actually how the "Van Allen Belts" were discovered.
Being trained as a Land Surveyor, and having a Father that served in the Navy on a ship that helped developed this and subsequent nav system (AG-153 USS Compass Island), this has always been a personal favorite:
I dont disagree at all. Right or wrong he evidently believes proving this was fake is important. I think he should be allowed to do that and anyone who disagrees should be able to point and laugh at him. I listened to the whole episode. While there clearly seems to be some weird stuff associated with all of it, I do not believe the moon landing was fake after listening.
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