Agree. Track cars generally are poor DD and using your sporty DD for the track will end up costing you big $$$. Unless you have $5 million stashed away, kart racing is IMO a better (as in cheaper) way to enjoy the track.
If I were doing it all over again, knowing what I know now, I would've gotten into carting heavily as a youth. Which surely, after quickly moving up through all the various junior series, would've eventually resulted in me having won a couple Formula One championships.
Surely.
Get what your heart desires, I also have a 2017 JKUR and I love it. Its actually my fave car i've ever owned. I'm 34 and live in socal so it totally suits the Beach/4 wheeling lifestyle and its just cool. I've seen people from 16 to 65 or over driving these.I know all that stuff about the driving experience etc, and I'm ok with it. I would take it off-road maybe once a year with my boys, but that's it. I have a short commute so I don't care if it's a bumpy ride.
I'm more concerned with the image the Wrangler may project. Is it a kid's car? Is it the same thing as a middle-aged guy driving a Mustang GT? Is it ridiculous for a man wearing a suit to be getting into and out of a Wrangler at board meetings?
I know all that stuff about the driving experience etc, and I'm ok with it. I would take it off-road maybe once a year with my boys, but that's it. I have a short commute so I don't care if it's a bumpy ride.
I'm more concerned with the image the Wrangler may project. Is it a kid's car? Is it the same thing as a middle-aged guy driving a Mustang GT? Is it ridiculous for a man wearing a suit to be getting into and out of a Wrangler at board meetings?
I'm more concerned with the image the Wrangler may project. Is it a kid's car? Is it the same thing as a middle-aged guy driving a Mustang GT? Is it ridiculous for a man wearing a suit to be getting into and out of a Wrangler at board meetings?
A fully-loaded Mustang GT Premium is now the better part of 50 large. It's not a kid's car.
if ur that concerned about image, where do you stop? Driving an accord will make you look like a cheapskate if you are so worried about board meetings. Go MB S Class then.So too is the Wrangler Unlimited. Yet half of the driver's I see with it are kids.
I would look at the CX9 also - Mazda is a vey good value. If you are near the Pennsylvania border check out Peruzzi - very aggressive internet pricing and great to deal with.Yes to CX-9. Almost bought a CX-5. Zoom zoom.
Added benefit that the modern Mazda corp was made by a Rutgers alum.. Ford's Mark Fields . I cannot believe that Elon Musk hasn't hired that guy to head Tesla by now. His non-compete has to be over at some point.I would look at the CX9 also - Mazda is a vey good value. If you are near the Pennsylvania border check out Peruzzi - very aggressive internet pricing and great to deal with.
if ur that concerned about image, where do you stop? Driving an accord will make you look like a cheapskate if you are so worried about board meetings. Go MB S Class then.
Of course cars carry stigmas. If you drive a minivan, people make a quick judgement. If you’re old, fat and bald, but drive a yellow Porsche 911 turbo, people make a quick judgement. It’s human nature I guess. But the question is, will you let it guide your life? If you’re indifferent about the Wrangler, who cares. But if you really want it and are passionate about it, why let what other people control your life?Cars do carry stigmas, like it or not. Sports cars, minivans, luxury cars etc. I've probably asked this same question to 10 other people and get mixed answers. Some say who cares, others say yes it's a kid's car.
Only young people who are into cars see stigmas. If someone is driving an old beat up junker I will think they are poor, that's about it. Jay Leno is old fat and bald and he drives all sorts of exotic cars.Of course cars carry stigmas. If you drive a minivan, people make a quick judgement. If you’re old, fat and bald, but drive a yellow Porsche 911 turbo, people make a quick judgement. It’s human nature I guess. But the question is, will you let it guide your life? If you’re indifferent about the Wrangler, who cares. But if you really want it and are passionate about it, why let what other people control your life?
if you want something cool, young people will be driving it. Whether its a sports car or wrangler ... whatever. Drive what you want to drive and the rest be damned...I hear you, and I don't disagree. I'm not an MB guy though for starters.
I don't want an SUV, but I need one. So I want something cool that makes me happy, has the utility I need, but won't embarrass me in some settings.
Cars do carry stigmas, like it or not. Sports cars, minivans, luxury cars etc. I've probably asked this same question to 10 other people and get mixed answers. Some say who cares, others say yes it's a kid's car.
FYI - the XT6 was finally launched in Detroit this weekend:Car & Driver says your aspiration is called the XT6, is expected to launch in LA this fall and hit dealers next spring. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2020-cadillac-xt6-spied-during-testing
FYI - the XT6 was finally launched in Detroit this weekend:
Of course, the wife is starting to look at large SUVs, as I mentioned before. We shall see!
Definitely no Escalade (too expensive) or Suburban (too long). Probably will look into a Yukon (normal, not XL). We have recently rented on vacation an Explorer and Expedition. Fords are just weird. Never been a Ford person. Weird door handles, weird knob for shifting into gears, weird other bells and whistles.I saw.
The only thing larger than the XT6 would be an Escalade. I feel like maybe it's your obligation to play your Man Card. Explain to her that an Escalade is very large it it's inevitable that she would hit stuff.
Parenthetically, the new Explorer has been unveiled, as well. It's quite nice, for a Ford.
FYI - the XT6 was finally launched in Detroit this weekend:
https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-cadillac-xt6-will-be-cadillacs-three-row-cross-1831713120
Of course, the wife is starting to look at large SUVs, as I mentioned before. We shall see!
If you like the Mazda, get another one.Anyone have a Subaru Ascent? Currently have a 2009 CX9 with 109 k on it and thinkng about a new vehicle.
Really like my heated cloth seats in my current CX9 and Mazda and subaru are the only ones that offer that in new cars.
Other must have is Android Auto. To get this you have to buy the cx9 in model trim that comes with leather seats.
Drove both cars and Mazda handles much better Subaru feels very "boaty" in comparison.
Not really sure what to do?
Definitely no Escalade (too expensive) or Suburban (too long). Probably will look into a Yukon (normal, not XL). We have recently rented on vacation an Explorer and Expedition. Fords are just weird. Never been a Ford person. Weird door handles, weird knob for shifting into gears, weird other bells and whistles.
Definitely, the XT6 is an option, so we shall see. And yes, she has a habit of bumping into things, so no Cayenne for her.
FYI - just picked up a new 2018 Enclave. My 2012 was having issues (120k in it) and I think the trans was starting to go. I went to a local dealer and they had one on the lot that was exactly what we wanted. Traded in the old one and made a nice deal for the new one, got it done on 12/31. They were motivated to get it moved by the end of the year. This will be my normal car for work and family stuff. I am scheduled to have a mid-level crisis in 3-5 years, so vehicle #3 will be something special!
Anyone have a Subaru Ascent? Currently have a 2009 CX9 with 109 k on it and thinkng about a new vehicle.
Really like my heated cloth seats in my current CX9 and Mazda and subaru are the only ones that offer that in new cars.
Other must have is Android Auto. To get this you have to buy the cx9 in model trim that comes with leather seats.
Drove both cars and Mazda handles much better Subaru feels very "boaty" in comparison.
Not really sure what to do?
I like the enclave, nice blend of comfort and I love the exterior appearance with the redesign.Definitely no Escalade (too expensive) or Suburban (too long). Probably will look into a Yukon (normal, not XL). We have recently rented on vacation an Explorer and Expedition. Fords are just weird. Never been a Ford person. Weird door handles, weird knob for shifting into gears, weird other bells and whistles.
Definitely, the XT6 is an option, so we shall see. And yes, she has a habit of bumping into things, so no Cayenne for her.
FYI - just picked up a new 2018 Enclave. My 2012 was having issues (120k in it) and I think the trans was starting to go. I went to a local dealer and they had one on the lot that was exactly what we wanted. Traded in the old one and made a nice deal for the new one, got it done on 12/31. They were motivated to get it moved by the end of the year. This will be my normal car for work and family stuff. I am scheduled to have a mid-level crisis in 3-5 years, so vehicle #3 will be something special!
Like the new look on the 2019 ct6... shame they only keep it for one year before shutting it down. I'll be in the market for a large sedan in 2 yearsEwwww. Hate the front end. Prefer the current front end.
This old thread. So guess what I ended up buying?There's nothing that actually recommends the CRV. Honda reliability is largely over-hyped and their interior qualities are low-budget. The Mazda CX-5, previously discussed in this thread, is a far better vehicle.
Agreed, the new Enclave is really sharp. Great lines and exterior design. Got the black (ebony twilight metallic) with the black/dark Grey interior and totally love it.I like the enclave, nice blend of comfort and I love the exterior appearance with the redesign.
I like the idea of the xt6 but read that they built it on the smaller xt5/gmcr Acadia platform and not the enclave/traverse platform. Seems they will still have a gap between the giant Escalade and xt6
Accord?This old thread. So guess what I ended up buying?
This old thread. So guess what I ended up buying?
Nope. Read an article that they took the Acadia and made it taller. Acadia is 3 row. Unless that article was complete bs but it came from motor trendAgreed, the new Enclave is really sharp. Great lines and exterior design. Got the black (ebony twilight metallic) with the black/dark Grey interior and totally love it.
I'm pretty sure the XT6 is the sister model to the Enclave and Traverse. Check it out, not 100% sure but pretty close to that.
Hmm, just saw this as well. The Enclave and Traverse are 204 inches in length, for comparison:Nope. Read an article that they took the Acadia and made it taller. Acadia is 3 row. Unless that article was complete bs but it came from motor trend
The CX-5.
I must say, I love it thus far. I got the base model, a 2018 left over.And do you like it?
I'm assuming you didn't get one with the new turbo motor, because I think they're just now hitting the dealer lots.
Meh...wasn't terribly impressed. I got a better deal on my own. Yes, I did work a little more for it, but Costco Auto IMO is only if you're just too busy to do any work yourself.Anyone have any feedback on using the Costco Auto purchase plan. The couple of folks I know that used it rave about it.
Hmm, just saw this as well. The Enclave and Traverse are 204 inches in length, for comparison:
Although the XT6 doesn't tread any of the same ground as the flagship Escalade, its resemblance in the growing field of Cadillac crossovers is undeniable. The XT6 borrows styling elements from the small XT4 crossover and spreads them over a bigger frame borrowed from the Chevrolet Traverse and Buick Enclave. The XT6 is actually shorter than both, riding atop a wheelbase of 112.7 inches long, with 198.8 inches from bumper to bumper—roughly six inches shorter than both the Traverse and Enclave. The XT6 is sized closer to the GMC Acadia, although it's incrementally longer than that crossover, and the XT6's just 9.3 inches longer than the XT5.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news...look-welcome-to-the-aspirational-neighborhood