OT: NFL Free Agency/Trades
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I think Kelly got outbid for Maclin.
Shady is a bit of a dick and might not fit in and has had MANY carries and is nearing 30 for a RB
Foles trade? I don't think Kelly likes Foles (Personal or professional or both) and likes Bradford.
Resigning Sanchez as backup quickly indicates he's sticking with Bradford and needs insurance.
I'm an Eagles fan and it's interesting to say the least.
As a Giant fan I love these moves. Never cared for the Eagles. As a matter of fact don't care
for the 76s, the Phillies, or Flyers. I'm all Yanks, Knicks, and Giants, and Devils over anyone else
in hockey. Oh yeah and Rutgers. I'm glad I'm not from south Jersey, look at all the championships
I would have missed out on rooting for Philadelphia teams.
A huge Giants fan here. They seem asleep at the wheel.
Loving the moves the Jaguars are making. They have a ton of money and are spending it on young guys that have played allot. They have Bortles at QB and the third pick in the draft so timing was right to go big in free agency. Day one they got Denver tight end Julius Thomas, Dallas right tackle Jermey Parnell, Miami defensive end Jared Odrick, San Francisco linebacker Dan Skuta, Green Bay cornerback Davon House and Indianapolis free safety Sergio Brown and its reportedly between them and Oakland for Demarco Murray.
It would add two huge weapons for Bortles in Murray and Thomas as well as solidifying a solid solid defense with young players. Add in a high impact draft pick at number 3 and they seem to be moving in the right direction.
Loving the moves the Jaguars are making. They have a ton of money and are spending it on young guys that have played allot. They have Bortles at QB and the third pick in the draft so timing was right to go big in free agency. Day one they got Denver tight end Julius Thomas, Dallas right tackle Jermey Parnell, Miami defensive end Jared Odrick, San Francisco linebacker Dan Skuta, Green Bay cornerback Davon House and Indianapolis free safety Sergio Brown and its reportedly between them and Oakland for Demarco Murray.
It would add two huge weapons for Bortles in Murray and Thomas as well as solidifying a solid solid defense with young players. Add in a high impact draft pick at number 3 and they seem to be moving in the right direction.
DeSean: Poor culture fit
McCoy: Too much $ at the RB position; way too many critical fumbles for a feature back
Maclin: Wanted to keep, but J-Mac wanted more $ and found it in his home state (Mizzou) playing for the guy who drafted him (Reid)
Maxwell: Perfect fit for press, cover-1/3 (Eagles run very similar defense to Seahawks -- it'll be plug-n-play)
Thurmond: (see 'Maxwell', above)
Foles/Bradford:
The case against Foles -
Foles had a historically great season followed by a historically horrific season. Yes, the OL had significant injuries, but there are plenty of fansites that parse the all-22 film and one thing is clear: Foles had enough time. Teams stacked the box a lot more this year and played a lot more press man, daring Foles to throw downfield. Foles just wasn't up to the challenge and threw off his back foot which led to several interceptions. He has a decent arm, but he doesn't throw with enough power to get away with poor footwork. And for Chip Kelly, this spelled the end of Foles -- Kelly has little tolerance for turnovers.
The case for Bradford -
Assuming that Chip Kelly is 'okay' with continuing to run a sort-of watered down version of the offense he ran at Oregon (and barring any further injuries!), Bradford has the potential to fit like a glove in Kelly's offense. After all, Bradford won the Heisman running a similar version of the spread at Oklahoma. On the flipside, he was extremely unprepared to take the reigns of the pro-style offense that the Rams were running. Ironically, his former coach (Pat Shurmur) is now the Eagles' offensive coordinator. I would think Pat had significant insight and input with regards to that trade.
Now my own personal football experience is limited to HS varsity, a billion hours on PlayStation, and a billion more hours on Xs & Os websites. That said, I am fairly comfortable saying that if Bradford can stay healthy, he could have a career year in Philly. After all, DeSean, LeSean, Maclin, and Foles all did under Kelly. Plus he was able to develop The Sanchize into a solid back-up.
I honestly hate most of the moves, but the moves aren't completely unfounded.
McCoy: Too much $ at the RB position; way too many critical fumbles for a feature back
Maclin: Wanted to keep, but J-Mac wanted more $ and found it in his home state (Mizzou) playing for the guy who drafted him (Reid)
Maxwell: Perfect fit for press, cover-1/3 (Eagles run very similar defense to Seahawks -- it'll be plug-n-play)
Thurmond: (see 'Maxwell', above)
Foles/Bradford:
The case against Foles -
Foles had a historically great season followed by a historically horrific season. Yes, the OL had significant injuries, but there are plenty of fansites that parse the all-22 film and one thing is clear: Foles had enough time. Teams stacked the box a lot more this year and played a lot more press man, daring Foles to throw downfield. Foles just wasn't up to the challenge and threw off his back foot which led to several interceptions. He has a decent arm, but he doesn't throw with enough power to get away with poor footwork. And for Chip Kelly, this spelled the end of Foles -- Kelly has little tolerance for turnovers.
The case for Bradford -
Assuming that Chip Kelly is 'okay' with continuing to run a sort-of watered down version of the offense he ran at Oregon (and barring any further injuries!), Bradford has the potential to fit like a glove in Kelly's offense. After all, Bradford won the Heisman running a similar version of the spread at Oklahoma. On the flipside, he was extremely unprepared to take the reigns of the pro-style offense that the Rams were running. Ironically, his former coach (Pat Shurmur) is now the Eagles' offensive coordinator. I would think Pat had significant insight and input with regards to that trade.
Now my own personal football experience is limited to HS varsity, a billion hours on PlayStation, and a billion more hours on Xs & Os websites. That said, I am fairly comfortable saying that if Bradford can stay healthy, he could have a career year in Philly. After all, DeSean, LeSean, Maclin, and Foles all did under Kelly. Plus he was able to develop The Sanchize into a solid back-up.
I honestly hate most of the moves, but the moves aren't completely unfounded.
OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford
OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford is this a good deal or not?
Rumors of Brees to Tampa Bay.
OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford is this a good deal or not?
Rumors of Brees to Tampa Bay.
Very good summary miketd1. In addition to what you said, there is the resigning of Brandon Graham, who was a very good pass rusher in limited snaps last year. He'll be a starter this year and should put better numbers then Cole did. An added bonus is that the Eagles prevented him from signing with the Giants.
For Jackson, another thing is he didn't want to block at all. Chip wants receivers who can block in his system.
With McCoy, he has had a lot of touches the last 2 years. Watching him last year he didn't have the same burst has he had in the past. The numbers on advanced sites like Football Outsiders and PFF back this up.
The return for McCoy, Alonso is a very good fast inside LB in their 3-4 scheme. They'll be fine there.
I don't mind any of the moves except for the Foles/Bradford trade, but if you squint hard enough you can see why Chip did it. Bradford has a relatively low TD/INT ratio, and there have been some reports that he processes information quickly and ran the Oklahoma offense like a point guard, which is what Chip loves. Foles had trouble pulling the trigger on passes last year. So, foles and Bradford both have pluses and minuses. The main reason I don't like the trade is Bradford's salary and giving up an extra pick to get him.
Tim McManus of Birds 24/7 wrote somthing pretty good in a article last week. From http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/03/05/eagles-wake-call-63/
For Jackson, another thing is he didn't want to block at all. Chip wants receivers who can block in his system.
With McCoy, he has had a lot of touches the last 2 years. Watching him last year he didn't have the same burst has he had in the past. The numbers on advanced sites like Football Outsiders and PFF back this up.
The return for McCoy, Alonso is a very good fast inside LB in their 3-4 scheme. They'll be fine there.
I don't mind any of the moves except for the Foles/Bradford trade, but if you squint hard enough you can see why Chip did it. Bradford has a relatively low TD/INT ratio, and there have been some reports that he processes information quickly and ran the Oklahoma offense like a point guard, which is what Chip loves. Foles had trouble pulling the trigger on passes last year. So, foles and Bradford both have pluses and minuses. The main reason I don't like the trade is Bradford's salary and giving up an extra pick to get him.
Tim McManus of Birds 24/7 wrote somthing pretty good in a article last week. From http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/03/05/eagles-wake-call-63/
Peters, Mathis, and Fletcher Cox could all make a case for being the best player. Of course Jackson, Maclin and McCoy were part of their best players as well. To a lesser extent or a tier below those six the Eagles still have Kelce (excellent 2 years ago, just OK last year), Graham (great in limited playing time), Lane Johnson (this year, rookie year wasn't so good), Kendricks and Barwin .
But it's easy to see the trend. Kelly values the lines/front seven above the skill positions and thinks that his system can take care of the rest. Who knows if that is the right path, but to suggest they still don't have their good players is disingenuous.
Re: OT: Revis back to Jets...
He's a very good player. For me personally, i would rather the Jets sign Cromartie. Revis is perpetually miserable about his economic situation and causes headaches...i just get tired of that. The Jets have a lot more holes than CB to fill and they are tying up a lot $$$ on CBs. Ironically, they have all this money to spend because of the last GM who got fired. So now they have an aggressive football guy with available cash.
He's a very good player. For me personally, i would rather the Jets sign Cromartie. Revis is perpetually miserable about his economic situation and causes headaches...i just get tired of that. The Jets have a lot more holes than CB to fill and they are tying up a lot $$$ on CBs. Ironically, they have all this money to spend because of the last GM who got fired. So now they have an aggressive football guy with available cash.
Re: OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford
Still a possibility they package Bradford and the 10 pick to trade up for Mariotta, no?
Re: OT: Revis back to Jets...
Not a Jets fan, especially with the dog-strangler on their roster, but this is a great move for long-suffering Jets fans.
Revis is still as good as it gets in man coverage and a big plus for the D.
it looks like the Jets are aggressively trying to improve their talent-level for a change.
1969 was soooo long ago.
Not a Jets fan, especially with the dog-strangler on their roster, but this is a great move for long-suffering Jets fans.
Revis is still as good as it gets in man coverage and a big plus for the D.
it looks like the Jets are aggressively trying to improve their talent-level for a change.
1969 was soooo long ago.
Re: OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford
Bradford can't stay on field so I gotta believe Philly has more moves planned.
Bradford can't stay on field so I gotta believe Philly has more moves planned.
yeah kiko alonso, a player coming back from a torn acl and who happened to have the best d line in the NFL playing in front of him. maybe that dline made him look better than he is?? hmmmm...hold your horses their eagles fans. its been a terrible offseason for you so far, you just want this guy kelly and the eagles to win so bad that you don't see it.
on the other hand, the giants are building depth and along with vereen (who's going to be an awesome fit in Macadoo's system), signed a couple under-the-radar-type linebackers (think kawika mitchell), and pulled dwayne harris from the cowboys to be KR/PR/cruz insurance in the slot. still holding out hope for one of Raheem Moore and Ron Parker for Free safety. with the 9th overall pick they're either going Fowler, Dupree, or Scherff. Just depends on what Jerry Reese wants to do, and he's in a very very good position.
Giants have a HOF qb, the eagles have no qb. no qb, no win. if you think one of bradford or sanchez is the answer, well then i just don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 3/11 12:46 PM by ntlrock1
on the other hand, the giants are building depth and along with vereen (who's going to be an awesome fit in Macadoo's system), signed a couple under-the-radar-type linebackers (think kawika mitchell), and pulled dwayne harris from the cowboys to be KR/PR/cruz insurance in the slot. still holding out hope for one of Raheem Moore and Ron Parker for Free safety. with the 9th overall pick they're either going Fowler, Dupree, or Scherff. Just depends on what Jerry Reese wants to do, and he's in a very very good position.
Giants have a HOF qb, the eagles have no qb. no qb, no win. if you think one of bradford or sanchez is the answer, well then i just don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 3/11 12:46 PM by ntlrock1
Jets get Ryan Fitzpatrick
So is the dog-strangler gone ?
Geno isn't going anywhere and I think the ASPCA's favorite quarterback is a free agent.
Why did the Jets wait until The Genius Ryan left town to get so aggressive with player acquisitions ?
So is the dog-strangler gone ?
Geno isn't going anywhere and I think the ASPCA's favorite quarterback is a free agent.
Why did the Jets wait until The Genius Ryan left town to get so aggressive with player acquisitions ?
Re: Jonathan Casillas Pats, New Brunswick
um, see my comment in the second post ....his mother worked for me. I've met him a few times through her including when he came back to show all of us his first Super Bowl ring. No RU offer. Went to Wisconsin on a full scholarship.
Re: Jets get Ryan Fitzpatrick
It had more to do with a bad GM, than Rex. The GM lacked experience and didn't want Rex. Owner Woody Johnson wanted Rex and what Woody created was a bad combination that led to him firing everyone. Too bad Woody couldn't fire himself. It now appears Woody hired a good combo in a GM and HC who work well together just based on recent transactions. Woody just needs to stay out of the way.
It had more to do with a bad GM, than Rex. The GM lacked experience and didn't want Rex. Owner Woody Johnson wanted Rex and what Woody created was a bad combination that led to him firing everyone. Too bad Woody couldn't fire himself. It now appears Woody hired a good combo in a GM and HC who work well together just based on recent transactions. Woody just needs to stay out of the way.
The two sports radio stations are blowing up. Not one Eagles fans likes what is happening. And I can't agree with your assessment about Bradford. After he has torn his ACL in two consecutive seasons you can't expect him to be mobile or anywhere near what he was in college. On top of that his cap hit is $16 million. There is no case for this trade.
Re: OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford
The Eagles have the 20th pick. Bradford has little value with his injury history and marginal success at St Louis. His salary is too high for a team to take a flier on him for a high #1. You must be an Eagles fan. This seems to be the rationalization that Eagles fans are using to explain away this trade. Still, it doesn't hurt to hold out hope even if it's not likely.
Re: OT: Nick Foles for Sam Bradford
Actually, Boomer and Carton were saying the same thing this morning. The Jets wanted Bradford last year. I think the Eagles may actually stay with him because of the Shurmur connection. They wouldn't have signed Sanchez to the two-year deal as insurance if they didn't plan to take a risk on a guy like Bradford. I think Kelly is an egomaniac. If he is proven right, he'll be viewed as a genius and be there a long time. If not, he doesn't make it through next year.
