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OT: People renting out their pools and yards

I saw an ad for installing a backyard hitting cage. One of the benefits was “you can rent it out on blah blah affiliated app”.

Had the same thought. How would insurance cover it?
 
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I saw an ad for installing a backyard hitting cage. One of the benefits was “you can rent it out on blah blah affiliated app”.

Had the same thought. How would insurance cover it?
Yeah there was a post here a few years ago about a guy running a baseball training facility in his house in a Monmouth County community. Besides the insurance issues, I am pretty sure that is illegal.
 
So this is a thing now.
I find it crazy that homeowners take this risk . No way insurance will cover an accident.
They have popup pool parties. My town put in an ordinance against these. They had two of these happen, they created huge mob scenes, people clogging up roads, parking all over, throwing garbage everywhere pissing on lawns. Owners of the property now receive a couple thousand dollar fines and court appearances.
 
They have popup pool parties. My town put in an ordinance against these. They had two of these happen, they created huge mob scenes, people clogging up roads, parking all over, throwing garbage everywhere pissing on lawns. Owners of the property now receive a couple thousand dollar fines and court appearances.
I saw one where someone was renting out pools online for houses that he knows the owners were on vacation.
 
I saw one where someone was renting out pools online for houses that he knows the owners were on vacation.
I did forget to add, those caught promoting these parties also receive fines and court appearances. Many of these are advertised online. There's already been a couple of parties that have been caught during promotion. The promoter and homeowner were contacted and told of the penalties if this transpires.
 
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So this is a thing now.
I find it crazy that homeowners take this risk . No way insurance will cover an accident.
LOL. During my tenure in office, the owner of a vacant house started renting it out for massive parties (hundreds of cars, loud music, drunks wandering around, etc). Big house with pool, nice neighborhood. The surrounding neighbors went nuts. Had to have an interesting conversation with the homeowner and passed an ordinance restricting super short-term rentals. Also, the main road was already no parking so our police was able to effectively enforce that. Good times! :)
 
They have popup pool parties. My town put in an ordinance against these. They had two of these happen, they created huge mob scenes, people clogging up roads, parking all over, throwing garbage everywhere pissing on lawns. Owners of the property now receive a couple thousand dollar fines and court appearances.
Yup! LOL. See my post above.
 
We have a tennis court with lights in our yard and during Covid we were approached by two coaches that wanted to rent our court to give lessons. We declined.
Fine if you don’t want easy money, the noise or whatever.
But why would that be an issue, it’s your private property to do with as you like….no?
 
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Fine if you don’t want easy money, the noise or whatever.
But why would that be an issue, it’s your private property to do with as you like….no?
Yea, we could have but like the privacy and also concerned about potential liability in this litigious era. We do have neighbors who are friends and free to use it for tennis or pickle ball whenever they want.
 
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Depending on the town, zoning laws may prohibit "commercial" activities in a residential zone.
Geez
They consider a local tennis coach who wants to give some lessons on a private court a commercial activity?
I have a friend who’s daughter was a very high level softball pitcher at West Orange high school… they set up a nice astroturf rubber and plate in their backyard yard, they allowed their daughters pitching coach to bring her students their all the time
 
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Geez
They consider a local tennis coach who wants to give some lessons on a private court a commercial activity?
I have a friend who’s daughter was a very high level softball pitcher at West Orange high school… they set up a nice astroturf rubber and plate in their backyard yard, they allowed their daughters pitching coach to bring her students their all the time

They could. But I wonder if that still holds true of one of the kids is on the team.
 
Fine if you don’t want easy money, the noise or whatever.
But why would that be an issue, it’s your private property to do with as you like….no?
Well because homeowners insurance could be an issue. The IRS could be an issue.
You also are also probably breaking zoning laws. Although , a tennis coach running private lessons would probably not be as intense as pool rentals
 
Geez
They consider a local tennis coach who wants to give some lessons on a private court a commercial activity?
I have a friend who’s daughter was a very high level softball pitcher at West Orange high school… they set up a nice astroturf rubber and plate in their backyard yard, they allowed their daughters pitching coach to bring her students their all the time
Depends on the town and the neighors. Different issue, but I know many homeowner associations strictly prohibit ANY commercial activity. I could see neighbors complaining about noise from tennis.
They could. But I wonder if that still holds true of one of the kids is on the team.
That's a bit different. All depends on the neighbors. In a town near us, someone had a problem with raccoons causing damage to their garden and shed. They were trapping the raccoons and releasing them in the wildlife management area. Neighbor turned them in, and they got fined.
 
Geez
They consider a local tennis coach who wants to give some lessons on a private court a commercial activity?
I have a friend who’s daughter was a very high level softball pitcher at West Orange high school… they set up a nice astroturf rubber and plate in their backyard yard, they allowed their daughters pitching coach to bring her students their all the time
You may just need a permit for such low-level commercial activities. However, this brings up the spirit vs letter of the law. There are a lot of local ordinances passed where there is no proactive enforcement. They only time it is enforced is when other residents complain.

If the owner of a vacant house rents it out a few times for kid birthday parties in the mid-afternoon, that's one thing. If the party is for 200 drunk young adults well into the night, that's something else.

Such ordinances try to balance being able to deal with shitheads but not overly burden responsible residents with using their private property.
 
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I would think the example of a tennis coach would be different if the homeowner is renting their court to a coach or if they are advertising. If the homeowner uses it for personal use but will also coach kids…maybe more lenient
Unless if you live in certain neighborhoods where the neighbors are pricks or they kids are blocking roads.
I have a guy in my neighborhood which is all old school money, who teaches scuba in his pool and no one has reported him
 
Also- an insurance waiver to anyone renting your pool is only going to help if a guest gets hurt 100% their own fault.
Doesn’t do you much good either if they do serious damages.
 
A few years ago, I read about people who rented their fenced yards for people to let their dogs run free. I think there was a possible franchise for it.
 
Here you go

 
I would think the example of a tennis coach would be different if the homeowner is renting their court to a coach or if they are advertising. If the homeowner uses it for personal use but will also coach kids…maybe more lenient
Unless if you live in certain neighborhoods where the neighbors are pricks or they kids are blocking roads.
I have a guy in my neighborhood which is all old school money, who teaches scuba in his pool and no one has reported him
The scuba guy’s name isn’t Mike Nelson is it😊
 
I know a guy lives on the Wall/Howell border came home and found 150 Lakewood Orthodox in his backyard. Cameras were firing off with busloads of people coming in. They claimed they rented his backyard for a boys camp. They caused thousand of dollars of damage. Called the cops had them removed. They showed a contract with some random internet site which was not him. They burned wood in his gas fire pit they broke into his pool house and messed up his septic. He had little to no recourse without additional legal bills.

Crazy!
 
We looked into renting a pool for a party (because I don't want to spend 200k on a new one) and then thought how tacky and weird it would be to invite everyone over to a total strangers house to have a pool party. You have to be really tone deaf to insurance risk to think that's a good idea to rent out your own pool to strangers.
 
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We looked into renting a pool for a party (because I don't want to spend 200k on a new one) and then thought how tacky and weird it would be to invite everyone over to a total strangers house to have a pool party. You have to be really tone deaf to insurance risk to think that's a good idea to rent out your own pool to strangers.
Curious where people go to the bathroom if you are just renting a pool for a party
 
Depending on the town, zoning laws may prohibit "commercial" activities in a residential zone.
Dumb question, but wouldn’t that also apply to everyone who works remotely from their home? If I closed a $100M deal working out of my house wouldn’t that be conducting commercial activities?
 
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