OT: Poor Talia Jane

[Knight Shift]

Let's make this Rutgers Football related.
Her Go Fund Me Page has raised more than the one started here to fire Flood and hire a new coach:
https://www.gofundme.com/Help-A-Yelper-EAT

Chris Ash says hello:
"I wanted to go to college. I had a group of friends who wanted to go to college. Guess what? Their families had money to help them, mine did not," Ash said. "So what was I going to do to be able to go to college? I was going to have to work to make it happen.
"I actually worked my way up in detasseling," he said. "I went from walking and pulling the tassels out of the corn, to riding the machine and pulling the tassels out of the corn, to the one who was driving the machine. Then, I was the supervisor of the whole group."

But, even when that shift was over, Ash would head over to a local baseball or softball field where he would umpire for a few extra bucks.
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And so does Shane Burnham:
The former South Carolina linebacker spent his first season out of college as a NCAA-designated “restricted-earnings coach” at Richmond, where his salary in 1998 was about one-fifth of the starting pay for his former teammates who headed off to Wall Street.

“I was making $12,000 and living at the bottom of the basketball facility at Richmond,” Burnham told Gannett New Jersey. “I’m literally taking the stairs to work and living at the office."
-------------------------
We all started somewhere, and for many of us, it involved working at a low wage, menial job.

 

[Scarlet1984]

I'm 31 and technically a millenial. It bothers the crap outta me that I get lumped in with these ~25 y/o babies. I don't know anyone my age like this girl. But I think it bothers me more when I hear people in their 50s complain about millenials -- you guys raised them and let "participation trophies" be a reality.

LOL. Don't lump ME in with people that raised kids like that. For example, my 21 year old can't stand the millennial sense of entitlement. ;-)

 

[chase07470]

Here's the thing (and right proper post, btw)...

It's not really her fault. I mean it is, but she's been enabled. As I said in my previous post, to be in her position is to know struggle. When we were doing it 30-odd years ago, we complained, too.

The difference is that we didn't have the means to vomit our every passing thought to the entire galaxy. This generation probably isn't any more retarded than previous generations - it's just that now everybody has to hear about it.

Well said. I had a $15k'er in 1993 and complained and fought until I was in a better situation, which took about two years. Had a lot of fun at happy hours and $1 pbr places but it sure was nice when I got that $45k job and didn't have top squeeze every dollar.

Had there been an internet, no doubt me and all my low wage friends would have been posting about what a crap deal that was..although, certainly anonymously.

 

[LevaosLectures]

Nihil sub sole novum est.

Old people are funny.

 

[miketd1]

Talia Jane:

Me:

 

[NorthernKnight]

I guess she didn't read the employee handbook. I don't feel bad for this woman either. This is going to be a hard lesson to recover from. Good luck getting another job let alone a good paying one in the near future. See I am happy that there are people like this in the world, It makes for less competition when my kids enter the workforce.

I don't agree with a poster above regarding not knowing what hard work is. How the F do we know how hard the work was. She could have been working 12-14 hour shifts. Regardless, shaming your CEO on social media is not a good way to go about it. There are other ways to get to the top faster like lying, cheating, bribing, extortion, etc.

Except we all know she wasn't working 12-14 hour shifts or that would have been central to her epistle and would have been blown up as an issue by the press.

The Obama Administration has promulgated new regulations that will require overtime for salaried jobs if the salary is < $50k, which along with other "well meaning" regulations that ban unpaid internships and require companies to offer health benefits to interns who work > 3 months, will be job killers.

 

[OntheBanks]

Same (27 here). I lived at home while commuting to my first job out of college to save/invest some money. Several years ago I took on a project in Manhattan for a pay increase and change of pace, decided within two months that commuting from central NJ wasn't worth the daily trouble, and after doing research and due diligence rented a relatively cheap (but still expensive by most standards) studio apartment on the Upper East Side. By doing simple things like bringing breakfast/lunch from home most days, citibiking and taking the subway in lieu of cabs to get around, and not going out for expensive dinner/drinks every night, I am able to live comfortably within a budget, not deal with any roommates, and (gasp) take trips/vacations as desired while moving up the ranks with work. Most of my friends go about their lives in a similarly successful fashion, are no stranger to working hard at even entry-level jobs, and find it hard to understand why so many millennials don't grasp the concept of hard work and/or hustling to get to where you want to be..

At 27, I had been married for 4 years, my first child was born and we were living in our 2nd house after having lived in 2 apartments before that. I was probably driving my 4th or 5th new car that I owned and my wife had her own car. My wife quit working 3 months before the birth of my child and did not return to work until he was a junior in HS. Oh, one last thing, I may have been making $140 a week then.

 

[RU5781]

I just check it out and....WOW...I'd rather read TSoprano posts than that girl's whiny, narcissistic, bullshit millennial drivel, ANY day of the week, 24-7/365.

You can read his posts. FanuSanu.

 

[Riceonthebanks]

At 27, I had been married for 4 years, my first child was born and we were living in our 2nd house after having lived in 2 apartments before that. I was probably driving my 4th or 5th new car that I owned and my wife had her own car. My wife quit working 3 months before the birth of my child and did not return to work until he was a junior in HS. Oh, one last thing, I may have been making $140 a week then.

So what is the takeaway from this? I think it should be that you old guys were fortunate to live in a time when a dollar went father than it does now.

They guys who worked their way through school in the sixties and seventies would have no shot at that now, plus they would be paying back 10 percent of their paycheck to the government on loans. No one wants to hear your bootstrap stories from a time when the state actually invested in higher education and it was affordable.

 

[RU4Real]

So what is the takeaway from this? I think it should be that you old guys were fortunate to live in a time when a dollar went father than it does now.

They guys who worked their way through school in the sixties and seventies would have no shot at that now, plus they would be paying back 10 percent of their paycheck to the government on loans. No one wants to hear your bootstrap stories from a time when the state actually invested in higher education and it was affordable.

 

[Knight Shift]

This appears to be a well-planned strategy for Tallia Jane, as it appears she got hooked up with some writing gig.
Note to youngsters: tweeting your job gripes the CEO of your company or the boss under the handle LADY MURDERFACE can result in you getting fired.

 

[cicero grimes]

She just has to hang on until Bernie is elected. Then everything will be free.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then. Also nowadays everyone has a college degree.

She should have gotten a roommate or considered a different job. One thing I will say though, San Fran is exceptionally expensive- way more expensive than NYC, and unlike here, there are not cheap areas.

NYC allows a little more hustle. If you're smart, you know where you can pay $900-1000 for rent, maybe even live alone, be right off public transportation, get a lunch for $5-7, get cheap groceries, etc. You can go to RU or a SUNY and not be (totally) destroyed by debt, but eventually if you want to make serious money you will likely need an advanced degree or certification of some kind. These are the kind of things I did. They're not options for everyone though.

This is versus my parents' generation when CUNY was free or close, not everyone had a college degree, and any graduate degree was the equivalent of being set for life, a family could live off one salary in a nice home in a well off suburb, etc. My condo three years ago cost around what my parents paid for a 4 bedroom house in an upper middle class town in the early 90s, neither of them went to college, and my mom didn't work until I was older. Today I can afford a nice life for myself, but if I was to get married and have a kid, my wife would have to work. It's something else that will be lost on the next generation. You can't just blind yourself to these things.

 

[NorthernKnight]

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then. Also nowadays everyone has a college degree.

She should have gotten a roommate or considered a different job. One thing I will say though, San Fran is exceptionally expensive- way more expensive than NYC, and unlike here, there are not cheap areas.

NYC allows a little more hustle. If you're smart, you know where you can pay $900-1000 for rent, maybe even live alone, be right off public transportation, get a lunch for $5-7, get cheap groceries, etc. You can go to RU or a SUNY and not be (totally) destroyed by debt, but eventually if you want to make serious money you will likely need an advanced degree or certification of some kind. These are the kind of things I did. They're not options for everyone though.

This is versus my parents' generation when CUNY was free or close, not everyone had a college degree, and any graduate degree was the equivalent of being set for life, a family could live off one salary in a nice home in a well off suburb, etc. My condo three years ago cost around what my parents paid for a 4 bedroom house in an upper middle class town in the early 90s, neither of them went to college, and my mom didn't work until I was older. Today I can afford a nice life for myself, but if I was to get married and have a kid, my wife would have to work. It's something else that will be lost on the next generation. You can't just blind yourself to these things.

Nobody is blinding themselves to current conditions.

This kid is a pretentious spoiled brat with bad judgment. The posts reflect that and a general disdain for young people who whine. Things are tough...suck it up and use your ingenuity.

 

[LevaosLectures]

Nobody is blinding themselves to current conditions.

This kid is a pretentious spoiled brat with bad judgment. The posts reflect that and a general disdain for young people who whine. Things are tough...suck it up and use your ingenuity.

You forgot "get off my lawn."

 

[Scarlet1984]

So what is the takeaway from this? I think it should be that you old guys were fortunate to live in a time when a dollar went father than it does now.

They guys who worked their way through school in the sixties and seventies would have no shot at that now, plus they would be paying back 10 percent of their paycheck to the government on loans. No one wants to hear your bootstrap stories from a time when the state actually invested in higher education and it was affordable.

100% true.

And it is absurd to compare what I made in 1984 to the minimum wage in 1984 because the minimum wage has not been inflation adjusted. (Correction: maybe it's not that far off.)

 

[mdk01]

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then. Also nowadays everyone has a college degree.

She should have gotten a roommate or considered a different job. One thing I will say though, San Fran is exceptionally expensive- way more expensive than NYC, and unlike here, there are not cheap areas.

NYC allows a little more hustle. If you're smart, you know where you can pay $900-1000 for rent, maybe even live alone, be right off public transportation, get a lunch for $5-7, get cheap groceries, etc. You can go to RU or a SUNY and not be (totally) destroyed by debt, but eventually if you want to make serious money you will likely need an advanced degree or certification of some kind. These are the kind of things I did. They're not options for everyone though.

This is versus my parents' generation when CUNY was free or close, not everyone had a college degree, and any graduate degree was the equivalent of being set for life, a family could live off one salary in a nice home in a well off suburb, etc. My condo three years ago cost around what my parents paid for a 4 bedroom house in an upper middle class town in the early 90s, neither of them went to college, and my mom didn't work until I was older. Today I can afford a nice life for myself, but if I was to get married and have a kid, my wife would have to work. It's something else that will be lost on the next generation. You can't just blind yourself to these things.

You are entitled to your opinions but not your facts.

1. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, only 59% of those who began college in 2007 received 4 year degrees by 2013, the last measurement date they had. That's sure as hell not 100%, even allowing for the 10 year plan. And given that graduation rates at 2 year community colleges are miserable. 100% or anything close to it is a myth.

2. Other than Cooper Union and the service academies, CUNY was the only other college I'm aware of that offered free tuition. So why are you holding that out as the norm for a prior generation? Yes, college is much more expensive today, but for God's sake stop with the hyperbole.

3. Being able to live in a nice suburb on 1 salary was probably possible for your grandparent's generation, but for your parents (my generation) NFW. And once NYC avoided bankruptcy in the 70's a coop on the upper East Side cost about what a 4 BR did in a UMC suburb.

4. Any graduate degree was the equivilent of being set for life? Right now there are people who received master's degrees in history, sociology, art history and music who are falling out of their chairs they are laughing so hard. And a lot of PHDs are chuckling as well. That is unless you consider teaching high school set for life.


Speaking of being blind to things.

 

[Caliknight]

Life was so much easier in the 90's. Six figure jobs just sitting there upon graduation.


Rokodesh, keep your mindset. It will separate you from the losers of your generation and you will have a life you never dreamed of.

 

[RobertG]

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then. Also nowadays everyone has a college degree.

She should have gotten a roommate or considered a different job. One thing I will say though, San Fran is exceptionally expensive- way more expensive than NYC, and unlike here, there are not cheap areas.

NYC allows a little more hustle. If you're smart, you know where you can pay $900-1000 for rent, maybe even live alone, be right off public transportation, get a lunch for $5-7, get cheap groceries, etc. You can go to RU or a SUNY and not be (totally) destroyed by debt, but eventually if you want to make serious money you will likely need an advanced degree or certification of some kind. These are the kind of things I did. They're not options for everyone though.

This is versus my parents' generation when CUNY was free or close, not everyone had a college degree, and any graduate degree was the equivalent of being set for life, a family could live off one salary in a nice home in a well off suburb, etc. My condo three years ago cost around what my parents paid for a 4 bedroom house in an upper middle class town in the early 90s, neither of them went to college, and my mom didn't work until I was older. Today I can afford a nice life for myself, but if I was to get married and have a kid, my wife would have to work. It's something else that will be lost on the next generation. You can't just blind yourself to these things.

You paint with a broad brush: The older generation does not bury their heads in the sand. The older generation pays for college for their kids, shops for food, understands the cost of living in expensive places, knows how to budget. In my case I paid for my oldest daughters college, watched her get a job and know her salary, helped her create a budget so she could move into her own apartment. Somebody did not sit down with this girl to help her with her decisions, she did not plan a simple budget and given all of her failures to do some basic things, she blames others for her problem and demands more money from the CEO and then embarrasses the company she works for on social media.

She is a complete moron along with her parents.

 

[vkj91]

Let's make this Rutgers Football related.
Her Go Fund Me Page has raised more than the one started here to fire Flood and hire a new coach:
https://www.gofundme.com/Help-A-Yelper-EAT

Chris Ash says hello:
"I wanted to go to college. I had a group of friends who wanted to go to college. Guess what? Their families had money to help them, mine did not," Ash said. "So what was I going to do to be able to go to college? I was going to have to work to make it happen.
"I actually worked my way up in detasseling," he said. "I went from walking and pulling the tassels out of the corn, to riding the machine and pulling the tassels out of the corn, to the one who was driving the machine. Then, I was the supervisor of the whole group."

But, even when that shift was over, Ash would head over to a local baseball or softball field where he would umpire for a few extra bucks.
---------------------
And so does Shane Burnham:
The former South Carolina linebacker spent his first season out of college as a NCAA-designated “restricted-earnings coach” at Richmond, where his salary in 1998 was about one-fifth of the starting pay for his former teammates who headed off to Wall Street.

“I was making $12,000 and living at the bottom of the basketball facility at Richmond,” Burnham told Gannett New Jersey. “I’m literally taking the stairs to work and living at the office."
-------------------------
We all started somewhere, and for many of us, it involved working at a low wage, menial job.

what's she looking to spend the 3 grand on?

 

[mdk01]

what's she looking to spend the 3 grand on?

Probably a vacation in Hawaii. Then when she returns and is still broke the whining will start again. "Those were gifts and gifts should can be spent on vacations. And I'm entitled to a vacation"

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Let's make this Rutgers Football related.
Her Go Fund Me Page has raised more than the one started here to fire Flood and hire a new coach:
https://www.gofundme.com/Help-A-Yelper-EAT

.

I don't which "GoFundMe" annoys me more: the one started for Kanye or the one begun for this whiny little bitch.



Shit, I'd kill for someone to start one of these funds for me and get me the f* out of debt, hint-hint, thanks!

[roll][roll][roll][roll][roll]

 

[Knight Shift]

what's she looking to spend the 3 grand on?

Probably a vacation in Hawaii. Then when she returns and is still broke the whining will start again. "Those were gifts and gifts should can be spent on vacations. And I'm entitled to a vacation"

Her Twitter feed says she is going to match it and donate it to charity.

Lady Murderface ‏@itsa_talia 14h14 hours ago


I, Talia Jane, do solemnly swear to match the GFM contributions and donate that amount to charity within 6 months from today.

 

[Sir ScarletKnight]

I'm 31 and technically a millenial. It bothers the crap outta me that I get lumped in with these ~25 y/o babies. I don't know anyone my age like this girl. But I think it bothers me more when I hear people in their 50s complain about millenials -- you guys raised them and let "participation trophies" be a reality.

LOL. Don't lump ME in with people that raised kids like that. For example, my 21 year old can't stand the millennial sense of entitlement. ;-)

So what is the takeaway from this? I think it should be that you old guys were fortunate to live in a time when a dollar went father than it does now.

They guys who worked their way through school in the sixties and seventies would have no shot at that now, plus they would be paying back 10 percent of their paycheck to the government on loans. No one wants to hear your bootstrap stories from a time when the state actually invested in higher education and it was affordable.

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then. Also nowadays everyone has a college degree.

She should have gotten a roommate or considered a different job. One thing I will say though, San Fran is exceptionally expensive- way more expensive than NYC, and unlike here, there are not cheap areas.

NYC allows a little more hustle. If you're smart, you know where you can pay $900-1000 for rent, maybe even live alone, be right off public transportation, get a lunch for $5-7, get cheap groceries, etc. You can go to RU or a SUNY and not be (totally) destroyed by debt, but eventually if you want to make serious money you will likely need an advanced degree or certification of some kind. These are the kind of things I did. They're not options for everyone though.

This is versus my parents' generation when CUNY was free or close, not everyone had a college degree, and any graduate degree was the equivalent of being set for life, a family could live off one salary in a nice home in a well off suburb, etc. My condo three years ago cost around what my parents paid for a 4 bedroom house in an upper middle class town in the early 90s, neither of them went to college, and my mom didn't work until I was older. Today I can afford a nice life for myself, but if I was to get married and have a kid, my wife would have to work. It's something else that will be lost on the next generation. You can't just blind yourself to these things.

Honestly, I find anyone complaining about "Millenials" to be whiners. I mean good lord, you act like there weren't idiots in your generations. The only difference is that there are now tools so everyone can see their idiocy. "It's better to to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Well, now it's easier and more acceptable to open one's mouth.

"Millenials" didn't de-regulate the economy so it could fall apart. "Millenials" didn't re-start the boom and bust cycle, nor create a system of golden parachutes, huge student loans, too-big-to-fail banks, the money congress, the radicalized political parties. "Millenials" DID contribute to the horrible garbage considered music nowadays. That I'll admit. But they certainly didn't destabilize the middle east, or allow America's vital infrastructure to collapse in the name of "not my problem" style disinterest. This generation didn't create many of the problems we now have to deal with...the people who complain about "millenials" did. Millenials didn't allow racism and massive income inequality to both linger and worsen.

It's the equivalent of yelling "get off my lawn" when the lawn you're yelling about is brown and withered with neglect.

https://xkcd.com/274/

 

[brgossRU90]

There's always a lot of mythology and misinformation about the past--often stoked by unscrupulous politicians of both left and right to whip up votes. Just the other day I had a "bernie bro" tell me I "probably went to college in the 80s when tuition was hundreds of times cheaper" and I've heard that "in the 80s you could work a summer job and pay for a year of college", both utterly absurd. Already in the 80s we were complaining about the steadily rising cost of college and we all had student loans.

On the other hand, the Chris ash story is nice on one level but as a nation it's not a good idea to stand by while roadblocks make it harder for many people to go to college. If we are or want to be the meritocracy we claim and think is the best way to order a society we want people's merit to be proven IN college and beyond. We don't want many of them to never even get the chance.

 

[Caliknight]

It's nowhere near yelling get off my lawn nor are half the people who are laughing at these idiots that much older.

 

[rucoe89]

I see millennials in action and I notice is that they fall into three camps:
1. Helicopter mom and dad always looked out for them so they are clueless on how the world works and do the most head scratching things (including not work hard) thinking mom or dad will bail them out. Regardless of how brilliant they are, common sense just is not there (and maybe there is no need for it because mom and dad will be there to bail the out).
2. They see the world as being hard, but just find it easier to complain, but not take stock of what can I do to get myself in a better position.
3. They see the world as being hard, but regardless of their background they keep looking for ways to improve their situation and drive towards putting themselves in a better position (like a few of the posters on this board). This group is where the future will be.

 

[vkj91]

There's always a lot of mythology and misinformation about the past--often stoked by unscrupulous politicians of both left and right to whip up votes. Just the other day I had a "bernie bro" tell me I "probably went to college in the 80s when tuition was hundreds of times cheaper" and I've heard that "in the 80s you could work a summer job and pay for a year of college", both utterly absurd. Already in the 80s we were complaining about the steadily rising cost of college and we all had student loans.

On the other hand, the Chris ash story is nice on one level but as a nation it's not a good idea to stand by while roadblocks make it harder for many people to go to college. If we are or want to be the meritocracy we claim and think is the best way to order a society we want people's merit to be proven IN college and beyond. We don't want many of them to never even get the chance.

while I don't disagree with the premise of your post I do question the "roadblocks" angle when one of the major millennial complaints is "everyone has a degree". I agree the debt and cost is a huge issue but it obviously isn't considered such a roadblock because apparently everyone is still going.

 

[C0bra Kai]

Eww...she's busted. Probably wouldn't have gotten fired if she was hot.

 

[Knight Shift]

There's always a lot of mythology and misinformation about the past--often stoked by unscrupulous politicians of both left and right to whip up votes. Just the other day I had a "bernie bro" tell me I "probably went to college in the 80s when tuition was hundreds of times cheaper" and I've heard that "in the 80s you could work a summer job and pay for a year of college", both utterly absurd. Already in the 80s we were complaining about the steadily rising cost of college and we all had student loans.

On the other hand, the Chris ash story is nice on one level but as a nation it's not a good idea to stand by while roadblocks make it harder for many people to go to college. If we are or want to be the meritocracy we claim and think is the best way to order a society we want people's merit to be proven IN college and beyond. We don't want many of them to never even get the chance.

IIRC, tuition and on campus housing was around $6-8K in the late 1980's? I opted out of the meal plan because I could prepare better and cheaper meals on my own. I worked several jobs during the school year and like a maniac during the summer, and during my last 2 years of college I made about $12-14K per year, paying for all of my expenses and having money in the bank. Never took a single vacation while in college, and I did not miss going on vacation. Now, tuition/board at Rutgers is around $25K. So, not hundreds, but 3-4X more expensive. While it is probably difficult to earn that much working during school and summers, a self-motivated student can make $15-20K per year by working hard during the summer and part-time during the school year. That does not cover the full amount, but maybe a student would need about a total of $50-70K in loans to cover the rest.

 

[rutgersdave]

what's she looking to spend the 3 grand on?

Move back home with mommy.

 

[ScarletSam]

this thread is full of people who are complaining on the internet about someone who complained on the internet. great job folks.

 

[Caliknight]

Eww...she's busted. Probably wouldn't have gotten fired if she was hot.

Very rarely do you see hot chicks talking about safe spaces and other such millennial nonsense. It's unique to stinky chicks.

 

[Caliknight]

this thread is full of people who are complaining on the internet about someone who complained on the internet. great job folks.

You are missing the most important part- what each group/person is complaining about. Perhaps ranting against your CEO and company is sort of an important piece of this topic? Or maybe this is too complex for you?

 

[Upstream]

I'm a millennial (30) and I don't agree with this chick, but the older generation deliberately buries their heads in the sand on the cost of everything today, but especially education, back then.

To some extent, college education was comparatively cheaper 20 or 30 years ago. In 1984, tuition and fees at NJ public universities cost approximately 7.8% of the median NJ household income (data from Census Bureau and US Dept of Education). In 1994, that had increased to 8.9% and by the 2013-14 school year it was 19.8%. That's a big difference. It means the comparative cost of college education has essentially tripled in 30 years.

But since the average NJ public university tuition and fees is now approximately $12,000 ($14K at Rutgers, less at other public universities), that means you are paying comparatively $8000 more today than 30 years ago. That's a lot of money, but in a state with a median family income over $61K, it is not making or breaking anyone. Plus there are a whole host of financial aid options today that just did not exist 30 years ago.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

re: Millennials and the Real Estate market.

As someone who recently began a new career/business, in a area with clients ranging from 18-60 I'm dealing with, I can tell you first-hand that, without question, (most of) these "millennials" are spoiled beyond all human belief. I struggled to go out a few nights a week, splitting a 4br/1b place ($650 each rent), when I moved to town. I literally deal with adults pissed that their PARENTS won't pay/sign for a 1BR that is over $1800 or a 2BR over $2400. No joke. The parents pay the rent, the deposit, the fee, and some of these "adults" are well into their 20's now, too, not talking college kids '15 graduates.

** yes, the market has changed, but that has nothing to do with these clients. I'm also not gonna complain about them insisting on more expensive places, either, just pointing something out.

 

[REDRICH65]

She's going about it all wrong. Today, our local liberal new paper had a lead story about an obese 29 year old Black Muslim woman with three kids, no husband, no job, who was essentially given a two bedroom apt because they were too crowded living in her father's one bedroom place. Then he got sick lost the apt and moved in rent free with her. Reporter thought this story was wonderful.

 

[jvdavy]

On one hand I feel bad for this girl because she was probably made to be clueless by her parents while growing up. We have 6 or so 20-somethings who work at my firm and I am stunned by their willingness to complain about things to their superiors. When I started - 20 years ago only - my young peer group would keep the complaints within our group and not complain about work to our bosses. We realized it wasn't their problem and further realized they didn't want to hear it. If something needed to be done, we would work late or come in on weekends and just do it.

The millennial generation come from a history of 'everyone gets a trophy' for showing up. When college costs skyrocketed, instead of living at home and commuting to the local public college/university, the parents plunked down or borrowed +100k (and likely substantially higher) to get their kid a liberal arts degree. Then some of these kids seem to expect the workplace to be like a sitcom where work isn't the focus and everybody becomes a pseudo-family. The attitude is more and more that the world owes them something.

She is also choosing to live and work in a very expensive area and not share an apartment. My first place had 3 people in a then-lousy Brooklyn neighborhood because that is where we could afford to live.

 

[vkj91]

She's going about it all wrong. Today, our local liberal new paper had a lead story about an obese 29 year old Black Muslim woman with three kids, no husband, no job, who was essentially given a two bedroom apt because they were too crowded living in her father's one bedroom place. Then he got sick lost the apt and moved in rent free with her. Reporter thought this story was wonderful.

She's not that smart either. Your example left off at least two protected classes that would have gotten her a guest room as well.

 

[rutgersdave]

Very rarely do you see hot chicks talking about safe spaces and other such millennial nonsense. It's unique to stinky chicks.

Sugar daddies take care of hot chicks.