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OT: Springsteen Interview on Stern Show

Obviously, the “algorithm” is five guys in Belarus banging out clickbait.

And if Thomas Edison is from New Jersey then I guess Jack Nicholson is from Los Angeles.

I would think “from” essentially means “grew up there”.one man

I've been on a one man Twitter campaign this election season, tilting against the whole "Dr. Oz is from NJ" thing.

Born in Ohio, raised in Delaware, educated at Harvard and UPenn. He moved to NJ as an adult.

He's not "from New Jersey".
 
I brought Irving, and JoePa and Rice up as a comparison to Michael Jackson point above, that it’s Ok to love the art and the artist while despising his character. To me, there’s no compartmentalizing. We don’t accept Penn State fan compartmentalizing. We shouldn’t compartmentalize Michael Jackson, Rice, Irving, Ray Lewis and so many others either.

Cured…. I mostly agree with you except I don’t think Rice’s transgression is any more excusable than others. It should not matter to Rutgers fans that he was a Rutgers star. We have other guys to highlight on the Jumbotron instead.
Shelby - Agreed - it's is in no way excusable. My point was at what point does the punishment (in his case losing his livelihood) received, albeit not criminal, allow an individual to move forward, albeit in this case at a lesser status than he had. I don't know what the exact right answer is for Rice (and I don't view him even an iota different than Michael Vick for example even though I bleed scarlet) in terms of when his penance/penalty is sufficient.
 
Holy thread hijack batman!
Does Shelby think Springsteen and Schiano are the same person because both names begin with an S and have an i in them?

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I blame catalytic converter theft on Greg too. And real estate prices. And frankly i haven't ruled him out when it comes long lines at Disney. If James Townsend caught that pass in 3OT they'd be shorter!
 
Cured...great, that makes two of us then. Our judgments don't depend on what uniform the person wore. I think we are in the small minority among RU fans on the Rice point, and fans in general. Fandom blinds. OJ, Ray Lewis, Mike Tyson, whoever.

I remember about 10 years ago Uruguayan soccer star bit an opponent, clear as day. Yet I knew a Uruguayan guy at work who was a fan of this player who insisted the player didn't bite the other guy.

How absurd, and sad too.
 
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Shaquille O'Neal was born in Newark,but didn't live in New Jersey long. He lived on military bases abroad, and then in San Antonio. I question an algorithm that is based on whether someone is born in New Jersey.
That was my point about Derek Jeter also. As well as others on that list. At least in Shaq's cases he acknowledges his Newark roots and is also investing in the community there.
 
Used to love Stern but he’s a joke now. Became everything that he was against for 20+ years. He’s a legendary radio guy but he’s also a legendary hypocrite now too. I’d be interested in the interview but no interest in listening to Stern anymore.
 
What’s the Stern Show? Guy hasn’t been on the radio for like 15 years. I only hear about him now when he says something crazy like unvaccinated ppl should be denied hospital access.
 
Not a Howard Stern fan, that being said. He does a pretty good interview. Heard his interview with Joe Namath, it was pretty good.
Springsteen has longevity going for him. He’s been on the charts since the 70’s and still going strong.
He’s got my vote for #1.
Hey Pat Hobbs how about pulling some strings and ask him to sing the National Anthem for the football games.
No problem getting fans in their seats for kickoff. Or selling out the stadium for that matter.
 
Not a Howard Stern fan, that being said. He does a pretty good interview. Heard his interview with Joe Namath, it was pretty good.
Springsteen has longevity going for him. He’s been on the charts since the 70’s and still going strong.
He’s got my vote for #1.
Hey Pat Hobbs how about pulling some strings and ask him to sing the National Anthem for the football games.
No problem getting fans in their seats for kickoff. Or selling out the stadium for that matter.
Good idea 😊 Maybe not the most realistic idea but it made me smile
 
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I listened, and I was pleasantly surprised by the interview. I expected the worst out of Howard and got the best. Howard has turned into a parody of the people he used to mock and berate. I get that people evolve and change, but his show is a radio version of The View now. Bruce had to convince him to come into the studio for the interview because Howard is still hiding in his Long Island home from the dreaded C monster.

Most surprising aspects of the interview:
-No edgy or snarky questions.
-No interruptions by him or Robin. They let him answer questions. Refreshing.
-Robin barely said anything. She was remote and not in the studio.
-Not a single ball-busting moment. On one hand, this was nice, but on the other hand, everyone deserves to get their balls busted just a little. This shows what a shell of himself Howard has become.
-He profusely apologized to Bruce and his wife for being a dick over the years.
-Not surprising, Bruce was a pure gentleman and referenced how he realized that Howard evolved and changed as shown in the 2019 Rolling Stone interview of Howard. My brother and mother have run into Bruce a couple of times this past summer, and Bruce was extraordinarily kind and nice to my 94 year old mother. He took a picture and called her "darling."

-Disappointing aspects:
---Some Baba Booey worship of Bruce and ballbusting would have been really fun. Nope.
---Bruce did not ride the Sybian
Howard Stern became the Karen of all Karens. Maybe he is finally settling down in his old age?
 
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Springsteen will go down as one of the premier rock musicians of all time. His song writing is among the best. He has been musically relevant for about 50 years which is astonishing. He is a very solid guitarist, very underrated in many circles. His voice fits his musical style really well.
 
Springsteen will go down as one of the premier rock musicians of all time. His song writing is among the best. He has been musically relevant for about 50 years which is astonishing. He is a very solid guitarist, very underrated in many circles. His voice fits his musical style really well.
Well said. By far the best live performer I've ever seen...particularly in his prime. His first five albums are among the best I've ever heard.
 
Springsteen will go down as one of the premier rock musicians of all time. His song writing is among the best. He has been musically relevant for about 50 years which is astonishing. He is a very solid guitarist, very underrated in many circles. His voice fits his musical style really well.

Springsteen's guitar rep suffers the same malady as the reps of many other guitarists in very large bands. Because there are so many melodic instruments in more or less the same registers (guitars, keyboards, brass) any given member's "part" is more like a piece of a puzzle instead of a full range of chord progressions, etc.

So what happens (and this is true of a lot of Tom Petty stuff as well) is if you're a guitarist and want to play one of those songs by yourself you're left with basically rearranging it so that the sum of several parts in the original version somewhat resembles a whole.

It's a pain in the ass and out of the reach of a lot of barre-chord-type players. So the original artist merits a "meh".

The opposite of this would be any single guitar band, where the guitar parts are entirely melodic.

Bruce is very good. He's not Peter Frampton or David Gilmour or, God forbid, Duane Allman but I think he's as good as, say, Keith Richards.
 
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You could start with all of the Michael Jackson tunes that you enjoy so much.
I celebrate the guy's entire catalogue. All kidding aside, is this a serious question? The guy was an incredible pop/rock singer, songwriter, performer and dancer, with countless huge hits, many of which are favorites of mine.
 
Springsteen and Stern? Yawn....

Is this like the Jerry Lewis is he or isn't he dead thread?
It was left out of the title.
Will let you know when John McNulty is on for an interview. 😜
Bad take by you. Springsteen is an icon and a NJ treasure, whether you "like" him or not, which we don't care about. This interview was long overdue, and as noted above, to my surprise, was extremely well done.
 
I celebrate the guy's entire catalogue. All kidding aside, is this a serious question? The guy was an incredible pop/rock singer, songwriter, performer and dancer, with countless huge hits, many of which are favorites of mine.
Of course it's a serious question. I've never been a fan....not very familiar with his catalogue. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to some of your favorites.
I'll pass on the dancing though.
 
Of course it's a serious question. I've never been a fan....not very familiar with his catalogue. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to some of your favorites.
I'll pass on the dancing though.
Ok, here's a sampling of my favorite MJ songs: Got To Be There (71), Don't Stop Til You Get Enough (79 - probably my favorite song of his), Rock With You (79), the entire 1982 Thriller album, a true masterpiece, featuring Beat It, Billie Jean, Wanna Be Startin' Something, PYT and, of course, Thriller, plus Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal, all from the late 80s. After that the quality fell off, IMO, even though he still had some big hits.
 
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Ok, here's a sampling of my favorite MJ songs: Got To Be There (71), Don't Stop Til You Get Enough (79 - probably my favorite song of his), Rock With You (79), the entire 1982 Thriller album, a true masterpiece, featuring Beat It, Billie Jean, Wanna Be Startin' Something, PYT and, of course, Thriller, plus Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal, all from the late 80s. After that the quality fell off, IMO, even though he still had some big hits.
Well, I've actually heard a majority of the stuff you mention. Nah. I have no interest in ever hearing any of it again. Not my kind of music.
BTW, did he play any musical instruments ?
 
Well, I've actually heard a majority of the stuff you mention. Nah. I have no interest in ever hearing any of it again. Not my kind of music.
BTW, did he play any musical instruments ?
To each his own. MJ could play instruments, but wasn't considered proficient; however, he also had an amazing ability to visualize every instrument in a song in his head and put them all together in a song, as per the excerpt below. You may not love his music, but his musical genius is astonishing.

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/the-incredible-way-michael-jackson-wrote-music-16799

A top team of engineers and producers would work on the tracks that he brought into the studio but even they were wowed by his genius. Rob Hoffman, sound engineer, describes the process (h/t Rhythm Of The Tide):

“One morning MJ came in with a new song he had written overnight. We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. “’Here’s the first chord, first note, second note, third note. Here’s the second chord first note, second note, third note’, etc etc. We then witnessed him giving the most heartfelt and profound vocal performance, live in the control room through an SM57,” says Hoffman.

“He would sing us an entire string arrangement, every part. Steve Porcaro once told me he witnessed MJ doing that with the string section in the room. Had it all in his head, harmony and everything. Not just little eight bar loop ideas. He would actually sing the entire arrangement into a micro-cassette recorder complete with stops and fills.
 
I'm probably one the biggest Bruce fans on the board. I've seen him in concert ~130 times. The interview is one of the best ever for Howard and Bruce. I just wish Howard asked Bruce about the outrageous ticket situation for the upcoming tour. I wonder if Howard was not permitted to ask about it? Bruce has never addressed it.
 
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Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan would like to have a word…
Agree McCartney is a great song writer. I love his work. Dylan to me is more of a great lyricist than a great songwriter. Just my opinion.
 
Agree McCartney is a great song writer. I love his work. Dylan to me is more of a great lyricist than a great songwriter. Just my opinion.
That is a fair point. As with most opinions on judging art, this is subjective. A non-instrumental song is lyrics and the music. To me, some songs are great mostly because of the lyrics, and there are a lot of Bob Dylan songs that fall into that category. Springsteen has a lot of fantastic lyrics coupled with the musical arrangement. Jungleland, Backstreets, Candy's Room, Darkness on the Edge of Town, Born to Run are good examples. But then there are songs like Tougher than the Rest and One Step Up where the lyrics totally dominate the song, and that is not saying the music is not good, but not in the league of the aforementioned songs.
 
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I could give two craps about Howard Stern. He made his bones (and a fortune) lampooning phony celebrities and politicians. The final straws for me was when he interviewed (and kissed the asses of) Hilary and Jane Fonda. Stern is a world class sell out and hypocrite. Bruce is not my cup of tea either, but I respect the opinions of his fans.
 
Used to love Stern but he’s a joke now. Became everything that he was against for 20+ years. He’s a legendary radio guy but he’s also a legendary hypocrite now too. I’d be interested in the interview but no interest in listening to Stern anymore.
People change over time. I loved Howard and his antics in my 20-30s. I don't think I would enjoy that at this stage of my life. I will say, he is one of the best interviewers around today. The Springsteen interview was really good.
 
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