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But that has always been her thing and it's why her funds performed so well for years.

Should she have changed course a little given that huge run up? I guess, but owning blue chips is not what she is about.
Fun to watch some freak out due to a short-term pull back (after a massive 4 year run). I guess they don't know that investing is over a long time horizon? ARK is a great option to get exposure to something unique (as of now). Innovation/spec companies via a managed ETF.

My one problem with ARK is that is mixes too many bio-techs into the main fund (ARKK). These are truly a different animal and I like to deal with them separately.
 
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I do want to note that even with this years underperformance, ARKK is up 400% over the last 5 years. The S&P is up about 100%

3 year it's about 150% vs 75%.

Perspective.
Shhh.....no facts please. LOL!
 
I do want to note that even with this years underperformance, ARKK is up 400% over the last 5 years. The S&P is up about 100%

3 year it's about 150% vs 75%.

Perspective.
Her performance was outstanding from 1/2017 to 2020, no doubt. The goal for us investors is to assess where to put the our money today. There were many high beta stocks that killed it from 1997 to 2000; were they a good hold in 2001? Heck no! It took the NASDAQ 14 years to recover its losses after the peak 12/2000. Are we at where we were in 2001?, not likely. Are there stocks prices that are extremely stretched? Without a doubt; and several have already been punished, including several of Cathy’s. Where we go from here, no one knows….. just be ready for the high and tight pitch…,. Be balanced and diversified.
 
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Her performance was outstanding from 1/2017 to 2020, no doubt. The goal for us investors is to assess where to put the our money today. There were many high beta stocks that killed it from 1997 to 2000; were they a good hold in 2001? Heck no! It took the NASDAQ 14 years to recover its losses after the peak 12/2000. Are we at where we were in 2001?, not likely. Are there stocks prices that are extremely stretched? Without a doubt; and several have already been punished, including several of Cathy’s. Where we go from here, no one knows….. just be ready for the high and tight pitch…,. Be balanced and diversified.
That's why innovation stocks are a nice, yet modest, part of a portfolio. And FYI, way more people lose money trying to time the market than make money. No thanks.
 
Her performance was outstanding from 1/2017 to 2020, no doubt. The goal for us investors is to assess where to put the our money today. There were many high beta stocks that killed it from 1997 to 2000; were they a good hold in 2001? Heck no! It took the NASDAQ 14 years to recover its losses after the peak 12/2000. Are we at where we were in 2001?, not likely. Are there stocks prices that are extremely stretched? Without a doubt; and several have already been punished, including several of Cathy’s. Where we go from here, no one knows….. just be ready for the high and tight pitch…,. Be balanced and diversified.
I agree with this sentiment, but people here rarely frame their CW talk in terms of prudent portfolio mgmt.
 
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Her performance was outstanding from 1/2017 to 2020, no doubt. The goal for us investors is to assess where to put the our money today. There were many high beta stocks that killed it from 1997 to 2000; were they a good hold in 2001? Heck no! It took the NASDAQ 14 years to recover its losses after the peak 12/2000. Are we at where we were in 2001?, not likely. Are there stocks prices that are extremely stretched? Without a doubt; and several have already been punished, including several of Cathy’s. Where we go from here, no one knows….. just be ready for the high and tight pitch…,. Be balanced and diversified.
No doubt there was a time and place to sink money in ARKK. But many of us were skeptical at nose-bleed $150 levels…others were not. And I could care less about C-Dub for the most part other than the fact she was on CNBC every other day a few months back pumping her positions when trouble was clearly on the horizon.
 
No doubt there was a time and place to sink money in ARKK. But many of us were skeptical at nose-bleed $150 levels…others were not. And I could care less about C-Dub for the most part other than the fact she was on CNBC every other day a few months back pumping her positions when trouble was clearly on the horizon.
And she was on CNBC again today….. after having a bad week or so. She plans to increase her risk by shorting stocks in addition to her current strategy. Someone on CNBC I think labeled it ARKK on steroids. I heard her predict 33% annual returns over the next few years. I have no comments, other than her overconfidence scares me….., but there are many “experts” that scare me these days.
 
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And she was on CNBC again today….. after having a bad week or so. She plans to increase her risk by shorting stocks in addition to her current strategy. Someone on CNBC I think labeled it ARKK on steroids. I heard her predict 33% annual returns over the next few years. I have no comments, other than her overconfidence scares me….., but there are many “experts” that scare me these days.
She’s desperate and needs to stop the outflows, especially with tax selling starting to ramp up. I’m sure there were plenty of folks that bought in ARKK at ATHs and need to offset some gains.
 
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And she was on CNBC again today….. after having a bad week or so. She plans to increase her risk by shorting stocks in addition to her current strategy. Someone on CNBC I think labeled it ARKK on steroids. I heard her predict 33% annual returns over the next few years. I have no comments, other than her overconfidence scares me….., but there are many “experts” that scare me these days.
LOL! I saw that too. I never like the idea of shorting.
 
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For the little bears that want to short ARK via swaps:

 
For the little bears that want to short ARK via swaps:

I'm going to short the SARK.
 
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So I entered the VR world today for the first time messing around with an Oculus. Have to say it was really cool. Where as I had long thought of the head sets as hokey, I'm completely on the other side of the trade now.

Think I'm going to buy some FB which is going full steam towards Meta. Definitely think the long talked about crypto currency will eventually happen as well. There is the FB overhang which has kept the price of the stock down, but I think that is already built in, and it's built in to the point that a monster growth company is selling at a very reasonable P/E, and that is before you consider the potential of the metaverse.
 
So I entered the VR world today for the first time messing around with an Oculus. Have to say it was really cool. Where as I had long thought of the head sets as hokey, I'm completely on the other side of the trade now.

Think I'm going to buy some FB which is going full steam towards Meta. Definitely think the long talked about crypto currency will eventually happen as well. There is the FB overhang which has kept the price of the stock down, but I think that is already built in, and it's built in to the point that a monster growth company is selling at a very reasonable P/E, and that is before you consider the potential of the metaverse.
I'm a long hold on FB. It's undervalued:

Facebook Is Now Meta Platforms; Wide-Moat Rating and $404 FVE Remain; Shares Are Attractive
Analyst Note | by Ali Mogharabi Updated Oct 29, 2021
On Oct. 28, Facebook changed its name to Meta Platforms, as it will focus more on investing in innovation for the long run, mainly in augmented and virtual reality. Meta will consist of two business segments: family of apps, which includes Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Messenger, and reality labs, which drive the firm’s long-term metaverse strategy with augmented and virtual reality hardware and software. Beginning on Dec. 1, Meta’s stock will begin trading under the ticker MVRS.

We have not changed our view on Meta and continue to rate it a wide-moat firm with a solid network effect and intangible assets as economic moat sources. As users on Facebook and Instagram continue to grow, admittedly at decelerating rates, we expect advertisers will keep coming. The firm last reported that 3.58 billion people access at least one of its apps per month, generating first-party data to improve ad effectiveness, offsetting challenges like Apple’s iOS changes. We also expect e-commerce to drive further top-line growth. Our fair value estimate remains $404, which represents an attractive 27% upside from the stock’s current price.

While the firm’s current augmented and virtual reality offerings generate some revenue, we estimate that they represent less than 5% of total revenue. However, we think monetization opportunities will come from both sales of additional virtual reality hardware and revenue sharing with merchants and content creators selling digital or physical products. For metaverse to take hold and attract billions of users, the virtual world needs to be more interoperable, like the physical world where users can easily experience many different environments and interact with different individuals and groups. Given Meta’s network effect moat source, Horizon (its metaverse project) should be a step ahead of competitors in attracting users and quickly building virtual environments, which should attract more users, content creators, businesses, and advertisers.
 
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So I entered the VR world today for the first time messing around with an Oculus. Have to say it was really cool. Where as I had long thought of the head sets as hokey, I'm completely on the other side of the trade now.

Think I'm going to buy some FB which is going full steam towards Meta. Definitely think the long talked about crypto currency will eventually happen as well. There is the FB overhang which has kept the price of the stock down, but I think that is already built in, and it's built in to the point that a monster growth company is selling at a very reasonable P/E, and that is before you consider the potential of the metaverse.
Funny you say that! I was at a bday party for one of my daughters friends this last weekend at a VR place. Have to say it was pretty cool watching all the kids using the headsets and even having chairs that were used for motion when my daughter was riding a roller coaster.
I then tried one of the headsets with someone else and it was playing in an alien universe killing aliens. It was pretty amazing.
So what did I do besides already own RBLX stock? Went out and bought the META etf as I don’t know who will be the clear winner in this space so rather play the field.
I also minted my first NFT(MetasharksNFT) so o could learn more about the space as I see that playing a huge role also.
 
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Funny you say that! I was at a bday party for one of my daughters friends this last weekend at a VR place. Have to say it was pretty cool watching all the kids using the headsets and even having chairs that were used for motion when my daughter was riding a roller coaster.
I then tried one of the headsets with someone else and it was playing in an alien universe killing aliens. It was pretty amazing.
So what did I do besides already own RBLX stock? Went out and bought the META etf as I don’t know who will be the clear winner in this space so rather play the field.
I also minted my first NFT(MetasharksNFT) so o could learn more about the space as I see that playing a huge role also.
A VR peleton type thing would be dope. Biking the alps or kayaking the amazon. The do have some fitness programs complete with monthly subscriptions, need to look more into that.

My brother got it last christmas(though actually got it in April) but barely used it, but I think we will get a Star Wars game which should be dope, and I'm looking at some other space programs which are more exploration then games.

They did have some roller coaster programs available that I'm looking fwd to trying, though I'm sure it is cooler with the moving chair.

Have to admit I'm hooked. See how long it lasts, but for now, I want back in.
 
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A VR peleton type thing would be dope. Biking the alps or kayaking the amazon. The do have some fitness programs complete with monthly subscriptions, need to look more into that.

My brother got it last christmas(though actually got it in April) but barely used it, but I think we will get a Star Wars game which should be dope, and I'm looking at some other space programs which are more exploration then games.

They did have some roller coaster programs available that I'm looking fwd to trying, though I'm sure it is cooler with the moving chair.

Have to admit I'm hooked. See how long it lasts, but for now, I want back in.
Completely agree!! I was hooked as well and previously thought this was all dumb and a fad.

peloton would be smart to invest in This space to grow their platform
 
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VR live events. Would I pay money to have a VR stream to have a court side seat at an NBA finals game 7? Stanley cup finals? Ringside at a championship fight? Concerts?

Yeah I could see myself doing that. At least once.
 
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Whether people agree or disagree with your sentiment, you’d be taken a lot more seriously if you’d refrain from the name calling. Is that really necessary?
This is an online message board, nobody should be taken seriously. And yes, irrational fear should be made fun of.
 
Bigger than expected Santa Rally coming to those not irrationally emotional. :)

Travel and value tanking, ZM up 10%. People are so hysterical. LOL!
This is the opposite of emotions. No one is trading the day after Thanksgiving. This is all algorithms.
 
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Bigger than expected Santa Rally coming to those not irrationally emotional. :)

Travel and value tanking, ZM up 10%. People are so hysterical. LOL!
Usual suspects of COVID, CLX, MRNA, PFE up a bit on the variant news.

Me I'm looking at the names that were already down a lot that I've kept an eye on and see if they will hit the levels where I see some support and what's the reaction if they do. This kind of news might take them there faster.
 
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