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I disagree. No censorship needed here. Politics go hand-in-hand with the market, especially now. And you can discuss objective politics, without muddying the waters with partisanship.

Frankly, a big reason why so many of your portfolios have tanked in the last 6 months, is because we were not discussing the political headwinds.

The mess we’re in now was predictable, especially from a market inference standpoint, but was commonly dismissed as politics here in this thread in an effort to keep pumping a fake bull market.

The catastrophically incompetent Afghanistan withdrawal set a lot of this in motion, and those who took the signs then, have fared well in the market.

Build Back Better was a pure inflation play to kick the can on a crisis.

Fed’s limply chatting about interest rates, because they’re terrified of the blowback in an election year.

Everything’s connected, and we’re at a disservice by not respectfully discussing political ramifications.
 
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I disagree. No censorship needed here. Politics go hand-in-hand with the market, especially now. And you can discuss objective politics, without muddying the waters with partisanship.

Frankly, a big reason why so many of your portfolios have tanked in the last 6 months, is because we were not discussing the political headwinds.

The mess we’re in now was predictable, especially from a market inference standpoint, but was commonly dismissed as politics here in this thread in an effort to keep pumping a fake bull market.

The catastrophically incompetent Afghanistan withdrawal set a lot of this in motion, and those who took the signs then, have fared well in the market.

Build Back Better was a pure inflation play to kick the can on a crisis.

Fed’s limply chatting about interest rates, because they’re terrified of the blowback in an election year.

Everything’s connected, and we’re at a disservice by not respectfully discussing political ramifications.
You're not wrong. Just the partisan posturing gets in the way. Everything's connected. Of course.
 
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You're not wrong. Just the partisan posturing gets in the way. Everything's connected. Of course.

I agree with both of you, but Biden is in the White House and it will be up to him whether we go to war or not. Going to war with Russia over Ukraine, or with China over Taiwan would be the most significant market event of most of our lifetimes. Hard to avoid talking about it.

Maybe we can all agree to try to avoid partisan sniping and keep it to things like: WH says X, WH does Y. Any other ideas because I would like to be able to talk about it openly without all the BS.

PS I realize I threw in my opinion on Biden but I will try to avoid in the future. Speculating on what he is going to do or not do should be open for discussion.
 
I would be shocked if we went to war over either

How united the west will be with sanctions is about all I would worry about
 
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FYI - FED just released its bond buying schedule. They are still on track to end tampering on March 10th, as previously planned. No changes. First rate increase to come later that week.
 
Ukraine coming out and saying they want to become a member of NATO is not helpful.

Does the market react negatively
 
Ukraine coming out and saying they want to become a member of NATO is not helpful.

Does the market react negatively
Russian FM's comments alleviated the markets for a bit..said there's a way forward with talks. But then Bullard's comments coming up too. Some partially attributed the downturn last week to his comments. So anything can push pull still and the main thing is the market is still volatile for now imo.
 
Russian FM's comments alleviated the markets for a bit..said there's a way forward with talks. But then Bullard's comments coming up too. Some partially attributed the downturn last week to his comments. So anything can push pull still and the main thing is the market is still volatile for now imo.
Multiple other Fed members called out Bullard (who is the biggest hawk) and said the Fed majority doesn't agree with him. No surprises. Fed to continue with bond buying and tapering until 3/10. First hike the following week. All data driven decisions, no commitments. This is a month to month process.

Excellent message by the Fed. Only emotional CLs are still reacting to Bullard and the small hawk wing of the Fed.

As for Russia and UK - buy this dip, completely artificial for the market.
 
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FYI - FED just released its bond buying schedule. They are still on track to end tampering on March 10th, as previously planned. No changes. First rate increase to come later that week.
"tampering"? Freudian slip. LOL.

I "think" the Fed is late to the party. Too little. Too late. In terms of tapering and rate increases.
 
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"tampering"? Freudian slip. LOL.

I "think" the Fed is late to the party. Too little. Too late. In terms of tapering and rate increases.
HA! HA! Definitely a typo. The Fed is committed to going slow and steady, which is the right approach. The vast majority of inflation is due to COVID and supply chains. Raising rates isn't going to impact this much and Powell knows this. Looks to inflation to naturally start decreasing in a month or two.
 
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HA! HA! Definitely a typo. The Fed is committed to going slow and steady, which is the right approached. The vast majority of inflation is due to COVID and supply chains. Raising rates isn't going to impact this much and Powell knows this. Looks to inflation to naturally start decreasing in a month or two.

You keep saying this about inflation but its simply not true. Inflation didn't dip at the beginning of the pandemic. This is purely a monetary phenomenon and is NOT transitory.

 
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You keep saying this about inflation but its simply not true. Inflation didn't dip at the beginning of the pandemic. This is purely a monetary phenomenon and is NOT transitory.

Disagree. It's mostly COVID, supply chains, and the stupid US government dumping $6T into the economy. Thankfully, all that COVID money is finally burning off.
 
I agree with both of you, but Biden is in the White House and it will be up to him whether we go to war or not. Going to war with Russia over Ukraine, or with China over Taiwan would be the most significant market event of most of our lifetimes. Hard to avoid talking about it.

Maybe we can all agree to try to avoid partisan sniping and keep it to things like: WH says X, WH does Y. Any other ideas because I would like to be able to talk about it openly without all the BS.

PS I realize I threw in my opinion on Biden but I will try to avoid in the future. Speculating on what he is going to do or not do should be open for discussion.
Just a point of clarification, Congress is the branch that can declare war, not the president.
 
Just a point of clarification, Congress is the branch that can declare war, not the president.

True but we've been fighting wars without a declaration from Congress for a long time so not sure that matters anymore. Congress lets the Whitehouse dictate policy and looks the other way.
 
HA! HA! Definitely a typo. The Fed is committed to going slow and steady, which is the right approach. The vast majority of inflation is due to COVID and supply chains. Raising rates isn't going to impact this much and Powell knows this. Looks to inflation to naturally start decreasing in a month or two.
Everything in your post is way off base (covid/supply chain).
There is ZERO chance inflation eases in a month or 2. In fact it will get worse until we stop printing $. That is not going to happen so all should prepare accordingly. Hard times ahead no matter who is in charge.
 
Everything in your post is way off base (covid/supply chain).
There is ZERO chance inflation eases in a month or 2. In fact it will get worse until we stop printing $. That is not going to happen so all should prepare accordingly. Hard times ahead no matter who is in charge.
Inflation will start naturally going down in the next month or 2.
 
Bad news for the TSLA bears/haters:

Tesla (TSLA) price target boosted to $1350 from $1300 by Piper Sandler ... analyst forecasts 1.58M deliveries in 2022, 69% growth over 2021.
 
So far this war seems to be being pushed by the incompetent Biden administration to distract from their failures.

Why would Putin want war with the West? He's the richest man in the world and has everything to lose. He also know Europe needs the gas so all this posturing around the pipeline is a show.
You love Russia, Go back to Russia.
 
Bad news for the TSLA bears/haters:

Tesla (TSLA) price target boosted to $1350 from $1300 by Piper Sandler ... analyst forecasts 1.58M deliveries in 2022, 69% growth over 2021.
If that $50 upgrade just took place today after all of the EV commercials last night then you can thank Tesla investor relations for the call to Piper. A $50 upgrade was probably in exchange for lunch at French Laundry…LOL
 
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Only thing I’ll say is that it’s hard to imagine it could get any worse…and if it does buckle up for some serious market volatility.
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Demand will lessen and SCs will improve. Also, the base effect will start kicking in big with the March data point (reported in April).
 
If that $50 upgrade just took place today after all of the EV commercials last night then you can thank Tesla investor relations for the call to Piper. A $50 upgrade was probably in exchange for lunch at French Laundry…LOL
Would be buying more TSLA if I wasn't focused on leveraged ETF plays. Still may add to the pile if another dip happens. We shall see.

Watching the R2K closely. Small caps normally are the leading indicator for corrections and rebounds. The R2K has been outperforming the other indexes for the past week.
 
Everything in your post is way off base (covid/supply chain).
There is ZERO chance inflation eases in a month or 2. In fact it will get worse until we stop printing $. That is not going to happen so all should prepare accordingly. Hard times ahead no matter who is in charge.
I thought we had a surplus in January

I only glanced at the headline so I easily could have missed it
 
I thought we had a surplus in January

I only glanced at the headline so I easily could have missed it
Surplus of what? If you're saying an actual government surplus (we are in the black) , I want whatever you're smoking. No one could say that with a straight face.

Surplus of bull$h!t I could agree with.
 
Surplus of what? If you're saying an actual government surplus (we are in the black) , I want whatever you're smoking. No one could say that with a straight face.

Surplus of bull$h!t I could agree with.
Headline says $119 billion budget surplus
 
So they stop kiting checks for 15 minutes and we have a surplus? You guys can't be this naive.
You're just messing with me. I get it now.
If you actually read the article, you could figure it out. Or, you can just keep telling yourself whatever you want to hear.
 
If you actually read the article, you could figure it out. Or, you can just keep telling yourself whatever you want to hear.
When you tell me you run your business like this and submit reports like that to the government I'll take you seriously. You can also let me know what I can bring you on visiting day @ whatever prison you wind up in.

I bet you believed the jobs numbers posted recently too. Finance people (or those that slept @ a Holiday Inn Express last night) are just soo damn smart I don't know how you can stand yourselves.
 
When you tell me you run your business like this and submit reports like that to the government I'll take you seriously. You can also let me know what I can bring you on visiting day @ whatever prison you wind up in.

I bet you believed the jobs numbers posted recently too. Finance people (or those that slept @ a Holiday Inn Express last night) are just soo damn smart I don't know how you can stand yourselves.
I did not take a side. I asked a question based on the headline. You take this much to personally
 
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