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This SEC bulletin was written in 2009 but is largely still valid and discusses some of the risks of leveraged ETFs.

SEC-FINRA Investor Alert on Leveraged and Inverse ETFs | Investor.gov

The SEC staff and FINRA are issuing this Alert because we believe individual investors may be confused about the performance objectives of leveraged and inverse exchange-traded funds (ETFs).
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rutgersguy1 said:
Making room for some MNF…but interesting to see if moving an established broadcast series can do anything for subscriber numbers as opposed to just debuting a series on the streaming service itself.

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‘Dancing With the Stars’ moves to Disney+ as company looks to boost streaming subscriptions

Disney, which is looking to boost its streaming subscription numbers, is moving "Dancing With the Stars" from ABC to Disney+.
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Sooner or later the network channels will be sports, news, and talk shows. Nothing else.
 
T2Kplus20 said:
SEC doesn't have that power.
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The rules surrounding acquiring stakes in companies are crystal clear and Elon is one of the smartest guys on the planet. It was intentional or he simply doesn’t care about the rules.
 
T2Kplus20 said:
SEC doesn't have that power.
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I believe that’s correct. The SEC can seek disgorgement of profits in a successful enforcement of insider trading and/or securities law fraud. Musk didn’t file the required form disclosing his ownership on time (and I think filed he filed as a passive investor rather than an active one.) This was a regulatory violation but not one that enables the SEC to seek disgorgement of profits. That’s my understanding, anyway.
 
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phs73rc77gsm83 said:
I believe that’s correct. The SEC can seek disgorgement of profits in a successful enforcement of insider trading and/or securities law fraud. Musk didn’t file the required form disclosing his ownership on time (and I think filed he filed as a passive investor rather than an active one.) This was a regulatory violation but not one that enables the SEC to seek disgorgement of profits. That’s my understanding, anyway.
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It’s not surprising that the lower/middle class hate billionaires. $156M gain for breaking the rules and nothing will happen. If he’s even fined it will be the equivalent of a parking ticket to Elon and he’ll keep the $156M.
 
RUAldo said:
It’s not surprising that the lower/middle class hate billionaires. $156M gain for breaking the rules and nothing will happen. If he’s even fined it will be the equivalent of a parking ticket to Elon and he’ll keep the $156M.
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I agree.
 
RUAldo said:
It’s not surprising that the lower/middle class hate billionaires. $156M gain for breaking the rules and nothing will happen. If he’s even fined it will be the equivalent of a parking ticket to Elon and he’ll keep the $156M.
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Until the SEC cracks down on corrupt short sellers who push fear and tank prices, I'm fine with what EM did. At the end of the day, he made money for lots of shareholders. There is a big difference between pumping a stock vs tanking one.
 
T2Kplus20 said:
Until the SEC cracks down on corrupt short sellers who push fear and tank prices, I'm fine with what EM did. At the end of the day, he made money for lots of shareholders. There is a big difference between pumping a stock vs tanking one.
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Nah, I’m never in favor of a billionaire flouting rules to his benefit. Making money for “Lots of shareholders” does little or nothing to solve the real problem in this country which is the lower/middle class. The wealth in this country probably hasn’t been this concentrated since the days of Rockefeller, Morgan, etc. But even those guys left lasting legacies through philanthropic endeavors. Like I’ve said before, where is the Bezos Cancer Research Hospital? The Lebron James College of Urban Studies? Yet, I’m the one in what I guess is considered upper middle class getting my dick kicked-in during tax season while billionaires are taking loans out against their stock for tax avoidance purposes and hedge fund managers are living off the carried interest exception. What a shit-show this country has become. Millions of people die from disease and starvation every day and billionaires are taking joy rides into space.
 
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RUAldo said:
Nah, I’m never in favor of a billionaire flouting rules to his benefit. Making money for “Lots of shareholders” does little or nothing to solve the real problem in this country which is the lower/middle class. The wealth in this country probably hasn’t been this concentrated since the days of Rockefeller, Morgan, etc. But even those guys left lasting legacies through philanthropic endeavors. Like I’ve said before, where is the Bezos Cancer Research Hospital? The Lebron James College of Urban Studies? Yet, I’m the one in what I guess is considered upper middle class getting my dick kicked-in during tax season while billionaires are taking loans out against their stock for tax avoidance purposes and hedge fund managers are living off the carried interest exception. What a shit-show this country has become. Millions of people die from disease and starvation every day and billionaires are taking joy rides into space.
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Nothing EM did impacted the lower/middle class in anyway (for positive or negative). He did help create an amazing company that employees a ton of people. As for taxes, also no problem with them taking out loans on their wealth. Go complain to banks.

Stop trying to link the success of some with the problems of others. It doesn't make sense. They are mutually exclusive.
 
T2Kplus20 said:
Nothing EM did impacted the lower/middle class in anyway (for positive or negative). He did help create an amazing company that employees a ton of people. As for taxes, also no problem with them taking out loans on their wealth. Go complain to banks.

Stop trying to link the success of some with the problems of others. It doesn't make sense. They are mutually exclusive.
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For as rich and successful as he is, he doesn’t need to pull these BS moves. 🚀🚀🚀🚀
 
patk89 said:
With your investment horizon and objectives, no need to delve into options. I rarely use them. The problem with buying a call option is that you could be correct on the value of the company, but your timing is off, and it expires worthless. If you want a longer time period, you will pay for that, and it still might not be enough time. If you buy the stock, and continue to hold it, you will eventually benefit if the company outperforms. I do get people selling covered calls as a way to boost income, but if the stock goes on a run, you have given away the upside. The risk of selling calls on stock that you don't own is crazy for someone with my risk tolerance. Finally, options do have the value of adding leverage to your investment, so if you are confident in both direction and timing, you can hit some big gains. I had an Apple call crush it for me a few years back (still small dollars) but that was blind luck and not something that I feel that I can replicate.
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True...but there is a more conservative approach to leveraging options; possibly better for short horizon investments. Given that the majority expire worthless, best to sell and pocket the premium than to buy. Selling naked calls, well...😳

Which brings me to...AMD. Recently, I've been selling weekly out of the money puts, none of which have been assigned. There seems to be decent support at $100. Any thoughts on the stock, sector...technical analysis? I've seen folks mention NVDA and MU, but not other semis. TIA
 
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zazoo2002 said:
True...but there is a more conservative approach to leveraging options; possibly better for short horizon investments. Given that the majority expire worthless, best to sell and pocket the premium than to buy. Selling naked calls, well...😳

Which brings me to...AMD. Recently, I've been selling weekly out of the money puts, none of which have been assigned. There seems to be decent support at $100. Any thoughts on the stock, sector...technical analysis? I've seen folks mention NVDA and MU, but not other semis. TIA
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After NVDA, AMD is widely considered the most cutting edge and best run on the semi's, and that is reflected in their P/E which is in the mid 30's.

You mention NVDA and MU and they are the opposite ends of the semi spectrum. NVDA with a P/E near 50x. MU near 8x. Why? Again the idea seems to be NVDA is cutting edge while MU is considered more like a commodity.

The whole sector though is expecting continued growth. Significant growth too. Which is not surprising considering they can't meet current demand and as cars transition to EV and everything else continues to become more digital.

I think you have played the charts right in that there does seem to be support here, though I do wonder if the 9 month chart is not showing a head and shoulders formation.
 
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RUAldo said:
It’s not surprising that the lower/middle class hate billionaires. $156M gain for breaking the rules and nothing will happen. If he’s even fined it will be the equivalent of a parking ticket to Elon and he’ll keep the $156M.
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I'm not sure the details, but if he didn't sell, then did this really result in a gain that he would not have eventually been able to claim.
 
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RU-05 said:
After NVDA, AMD is widely considered the most cutting edge and best run on the semi's, and that is reflected in their P/E which is in the mid 30's.

You mention NVDA and MU and they are the opposite ends of the semi spectrum. NVDA with a P/E near 50x. MU near 8x. Why? Again the idea seems to be NVDA is cutting edge while MU is considered more like a commodity.

The whole sector though is expecting continued growth. Significant growth too. Which is not surprising considering they can't meet current demand and as cars transition to EV and everything else continues to become more digital.

I think you have played the charts right in that there does seem to be support here, though I do wonder if the 9 month chart is not showing a head and shoulders formation.
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MRVL is also emerging as a true cutting edge semi player. Agreed on future growth and being bullish.
 
RU-05 said:
After NVDA, AMD is widely considered the most cutting edge and best run on the semi's, and that is reflected in their P/E which is in the mid 30's.

You mention NVDA and MU and they are the opposite ends of the semi spectrum. NVDA with a P/E near 50x. MU near 8x. Why? Again the idea seems to be NVDA is cutting edge while MU is considered more like a commodity.

The whole sector though is expecting continued growth. Significant growth too. Which is not surprising considering they can't meet current demand and as cars transition to EV and everything else continues to become more digital.

I think you have played the charts right in that there does seem to be support here, though I do wonder if the 9 month chart is not showing a head and shoulders formation.
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Also look toward the makers of the wafers from which chips are rendered. Companies like WOLF.
 
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Analyst notes:

Baird downgrades NVDA to neutral citing order cancellations.

I'd be a little wary of the chip sector, specifically names tied to consumer demand and have a little bit of a rich PE. Even a QCOM which isn't all that rich PE has been whacked pretty good. MU too for that matter.

JPM has T a buy now that the spinoff is complete for WBD with a PT of 22. BOA has PT for ATT standalone is 25. It's around 18 and change after the spinoff.
 
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rutgersguy1 said:
Long term like it but short term I wouldn't be surprised with more downside.
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Unless you are a serious day traders, the short term is just noise based on the whims of emotions and fear. For long holders, we love great buying opportunities. I bought a nice amount of NVDA a few months ago. Will definitely add more if it lowers my CB.

Am I too greedy to hope NVDA gets down to a price that starts with a 1?
 
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Am I too greedy to hope NVDA gets down to a price that starts with a 1?
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It's tested a support area in the low 200s in Jan, Feb, March and I wouldn't be surprised if it does again, especially the way it can move violently in both directions. So if you get down there then a 1 handle isn't unrealistic. If the overall market still has worries about recession and inflation, then I would may be go further than "isn't unrealistic" to probable but we'll see.
 
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T2Kplus20 said:
Unless you are a serious day traders, the short term is just noise based on the whims of emotions and fear. For long holders, we love great buying opportunities. I bought a nice amount of NVDA a few months ago. Will definitely add more if it lowers my CB.

Am I too greedy to hope NVDA gets down to a price that starts with a 1?
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Think about it in terms of DCA. The price has to drop enough for a meaningful DCA.
 
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jtung230 said:
Think about it in terms of DCA. The price has to drop enough for a meaningful DCA.
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Yes, I am willing to buy enough NVDA to dent my CB, but obviously it needs to hit that level. I picked up a nice amount of shares pretty close to the last bottom, so I need it to go below $210 to make is meaningful.
 
rutgersguy1 said:
It's tested a support area in the low 200s in Jan, Feb, March and I wouldn't be surprised if it does again, especially the way it can move violently in both directions. So if you get down there then a 1 handle isn't unrealistic. If the overall market still has worries about recession and inflation, then I would may be go further than "isn't unrealistic" to probable but we'll see.
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I think NVDA hit $208 for a brief moment and then 2 weeks later it was back to $280'ish. LOL!
 
jtung230 said:
www.cnbc.com

Elon Musk suggests people who subscribe to Twitter Blue should be able to pay with dogecoin

Elon Musk has suggested changes to Twitter Blue — including a price cut, banning ads, and the option to pay in dogecoin.
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LOL…..he‘s got some amazing ideas.
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Looks like he might find a way to get them implemented lol...
www.nationalreview.com

Elon Musk Rejects Offer to Join Twitter Board, Fueling Hostile-Takeover Speculation | National Review

Musk’s board membership would have limited the number of shares he could purchase.
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