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This is called "Passing the buck...."
You were right about the post of deregulation of the regional or smaller bank. And then they blame the Feds

They blame the government for not having regulations for crypto when the government didn't want crypto. And who’s going to pay for the cost of the regulations when they want to cut entire depts
 
LOL - Bears of the thread are on a rampage trying to justify Fed actions. Funny to watch. The Fed is stressing the banking system and it's starting to break.

#gameover
 
LOL - Bears of the thread are on a rampage trying to justify Fed actions. Funny to watch. The Fed is stressing the banking system and it's starting to break.

#gameover
I don’t know if I’m a bear but I’m timing it just right to buy. I know no one can time the market, I heard it from you about a thousand times.
 
I don’t know if I’m a bear but I’m timing it just right to buy. I know no one can time the market, I heard it from you about a thousand times.
Timing it right? So you already know that we are going to new lows and know the exact date on when this will happen? LOL. Funny stuff.
 
Maybe the FDIC needs to guarantee $500k or a $1 million in deposits.
Where's the $$$ going to come from? That program likely is solvent up to 2% of all deposits, for example. It's finite. Should that reserve be depleted by claims, there is no more $$$ to be dispersed.
 
Where's the $$$ going to come from? That program likely is solvent up to 2% of all deposits, for example. It's finite. Should that reserve be depleted by claims, there is no more $$$ to be dispersed.
As the pandemic proved, the federal government (including FDIC) has unlimited money.
 
Timing it right? So you already know that we are going to new lows and know the exact date on when this will happen? LOL. Funny stuff.
I use DCA to buy at a lower cost than I sold it at. Don’t need to the exact date just close enough to make a profit.LOL
 
LOL - Bears of the thread are on a rampage trying to justify Fed actions. Funny to watch. The Fed is stressing the banking system and it's starting to break.

#gameover

I’m generally not a bear, but the Fed is in a very tight position here. I don’t think they can or should operate in world where raising rates is off the table because of negative consequences. Rate risk is something banks should understand and mitigate.

That said:
1) Basel accords incentivize banks to carry the same government securities that the fed is now devaluing (I don’t believe these regulations applied to SVB due to its size); that’s sort of a tricky position. On one hand central bankers created the impression that these are risk-free assets, and on the other banks are carrying huge unrealized losses in portfolios of these assets…and those losses are creating questions about the stability of the institutions carrying them.

2) The ‘too big to fail’ dynamic is now more apparent than ever. Bill Ackman tweeted about it this am. Customers are now more aware that their deposits in excess of FDIC are actually at risk in all but a handful of systemically important institutions. Absent a bailout of SVB, what’s to prevent a run on small and regional banks in the days ahead? They may be well-managed, but even sound banks are vulnerable when there is a run…and the “some are protected / some aren’t” dynamic may be the recipe for panic and bank runs across the industry
 
From John Normand -JPM cross asset global strategy:

* Why I’m a #recessionista, but struggle to see Silicon Valley Bank as a watershed event * This week’s death throes (then death) of #SVC has inspired numerous, unfortunate references to #BearStearns and #Lehman. Unfortunate because, during periods of financial (and emotional) stress, it’s unhelpful to draw false analogies to historical events whose features do not resemble the current context. At best, these references distract from the core issues worth debating. At worst, they mislead investors into making portfolio shifts that may work against their short and long-term interests.

Rather than exhume the #Bear and #Lehman bones, here’s how I’d frame #SVB:

1) #SVB’s business model was fragile, with an undiversified #deposit base and #assets vulnerable to rapidly-rising rates. Other regional banks may be similarly vulnerable.

2) Systemically-important banks are strong, with diversified deposits, less-vulnerable #assets (due to #floatingrate loans), and other revenue sources (like Markets businesses). It’s incoherent to analogise SVC with #Bear plus #Lehman, if SVC’s business differed so much from systemically-important banks’ model.

3) There may be considerable #leverage in #crypto and other #innovationassets within the SVC ecosystem, but there isn’t excess systemic leverage in the US private sector. Yesterday, amidst the tumult in #Financials, the Fed released its quarterly stats on sectoral borrowing. It’s a skull-crusher at +200 pages (see https://lnkd.in/eQXjsFQs), but the attached graph presents the useful data points: #household and #corporate debt as a percentage of GDP. That ratio continues to fall, as it has done throughout this expansion. Household #indebtedness is below its pre-COVID levels, and about 25%-points of GDP below its sub-prime crisis levels. Corporate debt is only 2%-points above its pre-COVID levels. So there's a company-level #canary, but not necessarily a very deep #coalmine.

4) Economies can suffer #recessions without a #leverage build-up, because the #stock of debt must be refinanced, even if the #flow has been constructive in recent years.

5) There will be a #recession, and it will probably start in late 2023/early 2024 given the current strength of the US #labormarket. But the #crytpo - #Tech - #banking nexus isn’t the core problem nor an amplifier. The bedrock issue is that the #labormarket isn’t cooling quickly enough to return #CPI to target. So the Fed will become more #restrictive (5.75-6% funds rate), and trigger a rise in #unemployment of a couple percentage points. The mild GDP contraction (compared to 1970s or GFC) that will accompany that process will deliver peak-to-trough Equities declines in line with the historical norm (-30% from last year’s peak). SVB neither hastens nor contributes to this process. It's also unlikely to impact the the March 22 #FOMC, which rests more on how #CPI prints next Tuesday.
 
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the point is to tighten financial conditions (not make FDIC middle managers put in overtime)...
my point is exactly right.

I believe the expression is : don't suck.
there's a thing about poorly run banks...... they are poorly run. Sure, ask "where were the regulators?!" and let's get those Bank Officers fined and in court...

but, again--- there's are reason we are seeing the first stresses in shitcoin and bad banks tied to vapor....

No reasonable person thought there'd actually be "zero pain" or "no landing"......... yes, it will get worse.. but eventually it will get better. It's the price we all have to pay NOW for a generation of free-money and FOMO... sucks to be us...
you're all over here. your response has zero to do with what you said on top of that, it's wrong
 
From John Normand -JPM cross asset global strategy:

* Why I’m a #recessionista, but struggle to see Silicon Valley Bank as a watershed event * This week’s death throes (then death) of #SVC has inspired numerous, unfortunate references to #BearStearns and #Lehman. Unfortunate because, during periods of financial (and emotional) stress, it’s unhelpful to draw false analogies to historical events whose features do not resemble the current context. At best, these references distract from the core issues worth debating. At worst, they mislead investors into making portfolio shifts that may work against their short and long-term interests.

Rather than exhume the #Bear and #Lehman bones, here’s how I’d frame #SVB:

1) #SVB’s business model was fragile, with an undiversified #deposit base and #assets vulnerable to rapidly-rising rates. Other regional banks may be similarly vulnerable.

2) Systemically-important banks are strong, with diversified deposits, less-vulnerable #assets (due to #floatingrate loans), and other revenue sources (like Markets businesses). It’s incoherent to analogise SVC with #Bear plus #Lehman, if SVC’s business differed so much from systemically-important banks’ model.

3) There may be considerable #leverage in #crypto and other #innovationassets within the SVC ecosystem, but there isn’t excess systemic leverage in the US private sector. Yesterday, amidst the tumult in #Financials, the Fed released its quarterly stats on sectoral borrowing. It’s a skull-crusher at +200 pages (see https://lnkd.in/eQXjsFQs), but the attached graph presents the useful data points: #household and #corporate debt as a percentage of GDP. That ratio continues to fall, as it has done throughout this expansion. Household #indebtedness is below its pre-COVID levels, and about 25%-points of GDP below its sub-prime crisis levels. Corporate debt is only 2%-points above its pre-COVID levels. So there's a company-level #canary, but not necessarily a very deep #coalmine.

4) Economies can suffer #recessions without a #leverage build-up, because the #stock of debt must be refinanced, even if the #flow has been constructive in recent years.

5) There will be a #recession, and it will probably start in late 2023/early 2024 given the current strength of the US #labormarket. But the #crytpo - #Tech - #banking nexus isn’t the core problem nor an amplifier. The bedrock issue is that the #labormarket isn’t cooling quickly enough to return #CPI to target. So the Fed will become more #restrictive (5.75-6% funds rate), and trigger a rise in #unemployment of a couple percentage points. The mild GDP contraction (compared to 1970s or GFC) that will accompany that process will deliver peak-to-trough Equities declines in line with the historical norm (-30% from last year’s peak). SVB neither hastens nor contributes to this process. It's also unlikely to impact the the March 22 #FOMC, which rests more on how #CPI prints next Tuesday.
jpm asset management group sucks, just an fyi ( was their senior mbs trader at one point)

apparently, schwab moved 200 billion from afs to htm over the past few months (prudent but obviously will have issues down the road). Wonder who else is doing this
 
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LOL. No. Careless fiscal management at that financial institution caused its collapsed. That. FI gambled and lost. And watch, they'll run to the Feds seeking to make them/their depositors "whole."
This x1000. SVB was essentially ran by a bunch of tech finance bros who hid their banking malfeasance behind a veneer of DEI, Minority, and social activism. People like this, who co-opt these movements for their own protection/gain, are a special kind of awful.

I wonder if they learned at Wharton that interest rates will be low forever much like stonks will always go up, because their decision making in 2020/2021 certainly suggests they did.
 
to be clear, this was not a credit event rather a mismanagement to interest rate risk event. I believe there will be more
 
Ok, got it. Just the information you think is important. I will be sure to check with you before my next post.

Well, easier to just accept that commentary is subject to reply. And that reply might be shaped by what you choose to include / omit in your commentary
 
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Well, easier to just accept that commentary is subject to reply. And that reply might be shaped by what you choose to include / omit in your commentary

Nah. You want to add something go ahead. I will keep posting whatever I want.

Got bad news for you. Diversity/Woke/ESG/WEF are dead going forward. We are going back to reality.
 
to be clear, this was not a credit event rather a mismanagement to interest rate risk event. I believe there will be more
Sure. But a double-whammy dynamic is likely to emerge as, in addition to mismanaged financial institutions like SVB, more than a few micro caps (particularly in the tech and biotech space) will be cut off from funding and will be unable to handle increased rates if their existing debt is restructured. Zombies going to be decapitated....
 
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Sure. But a double-whammy dynamic is likely to emerge as, in addition to mismanaged financial institutions like SVB, more than a few micro caps (particularly in the tech and biotech space) will be cut off from funding and will be unable to handle increased rates if their existing debt is restructured. Zombies going to be decapitated....
I believe about 90% of microcaps fail within 3-5 years. Just normal happenings. Hey, is there an inverse ETF for microcaps? :)
 
Nah. You want to add something go ahead. I will keep posting whatever I want.

Got bad news for you. Diversity/Woke/ESG/WEF are dead going forward. We are going back to reality.

The moment’s just too big for you. A bank is failing and instead of staying grounded you’re getting caught up in a bunch of abstract culture war stuff. Take a few possessions on the bench and collect yourself.
 
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The moment’s just too big for you. A bank is failing and instead of staying grounded you’re getting caught up in a bunch of abstract culture war stuff. Take a few possessions on the bench and collect yourself.

LOL. WTF are you talking about?

I've wasted enough time with you.
 
LOL! Elon tweet.....open to buying SVB and adding digital banking services to Twitter. I guess this is an easy way to obtain a banking charter.

Should be a fun week! 😜
 
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On Thursday I shorted as many regional banks as I could using the following criteria: %of deposits that exceed FDIC insurance:
SBNY
SFBS
UMBF
FFWM
FRC
CVBF
EWBC
TCBI

ALL of these have more than 80% in uninsured deposits. Some have already come in for me Friday. A couple weren’t shortable. It’s worth a look as a quick bank run-contagion play.
I would cash out any winning trades. As the news pours out, these stocks will be extremely volatile.
Well, it’s just a thesis for a trade idea for a 1 week trade. I have trailing stops in late yesterday on all the positions. Unfortunately I didn’t cover FRC yesterday morning when it was trading down at 50. I got greedy/deer in headlights so still short. Short at $96.
Best to not get greedy here. All shorts should be almost day trades.
Not sure where you are getting that from. I have posted all my trades here and what I’ve been adding to my portfolio.
You do a better job than others. You don’t claim to buy at the bottom and trade at the top over and over again without ever posting real time trades.
 
I would not cash out any winning trades. As the news pours out, these stocks will be extremely volatile.

Best to not get greedy here. All shorts should be almost day trades.

You do a better job than others. You don’t claim to buy at the bottom and trade at the top over and over again without ever posting real time trades.
How do you think the SVB story will play out? Fed/gov bailout or someone buying it?
 
And their Chief Financial Risk Officer was a diversity hire.
How would you know that?

Were you part of the interview process or did you know the person and other candidates that were interested in the position?

I am really interested in the history and background of the hire and especially who was passed up.
 
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