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RIVN sells off as it sells convertible notes. They had cash on the balance sheet, appears they wanted more.

Hanging around $20. I bought back in at $20.50.
 
Doing anything unnecessary is dumb. Taking the opportunity to get back to neutral (3%'ish) and stopping QE seemed wise. Anything additional isn't worth the consequences. Remember, the Fed is directly contributing to higher inflation. Financial services CPI is directly tied to the FFR and of course, they royally f'ed up the housing market. Why? No idea.
People like to note that homeowners won't sell houses because they have a much lower rate, and that is limiting supply.

But those homeowners, because they are staying in those houses, are not buying a house elsewhere, which is limiting demand.

I don't know if it's a wash, but it doesn't tilt the scales as much as the narrative indicates.
 
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Sankey says Saudi's drove oil too high which cracked the gasoline market because of a weaker consumer.

Says the biggest buyer of Oil is the US gasoline market. So we can see where the Fed can effect oil prices.

Thinks we will see lower gas prices in the coming months.
 
People like to note that homeowners won't sell houses because they have a much lower rate, and that is limiting supply.

But those homeowners, because they are staying in those houses, are not buying a house elsewhere, which is limiting demand.

I don't know if it's a wash, but it doesn't tilt the scales as much as the narrative indicates.
FTHB on the sidelines are keeping demand high as millennials pile into home buying age.
 
Sankey says Saudi's drove oil too high which cracked the gasoline market because of a weaker consumer.

Says the biggest buyer of Oil is the US gasoline market. So we can see where the Fed can effect oil prices.

Thinks we will see lower gas prices in the coming months.
From T. Boone Pickens:

The solution to the problem of high gas prices is high gas prices.

He's totally right.
 
Yield curve "univerting" has been a note of late.

Thought out there that this is indicative of the recession being imminent.

Any one know how long rates typically stay inverted before a recession kicks in. It's been 15-16 months now I think.
 
RIVN sells off as it sells convertible notes. They had cash on the balance sheet, appears they wanted more.

Hanging around $20. I bought back in at $20.50.
Thanks for the heads up. Just added to my RIVN position at $19.3'ish. With these notes, I believe their cash on hand is back over $10B.
 
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It was stuck in that $65-$80 range for awhile. Then broke out. Is it now working in a new range.

Cramer said he thought the run to $90+ may have fueled by a short squeeze.
Regardless, higher technical lows have been put in. Going forward, oil prices are going to be demand driven. YTD, it has been a supply storyline.
 
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I’m looking at CVX in the high 150’s (157.50 limit buy). Stock has good fundamentals and I like 157 as a good technical support levels.

Also buying GS at 301 for the same reasons.

On a macro level, I’m going to start legging into the market below 4200. Lots of dry powder (getting 5.5% money market since late Feb) to use.
 
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The Fed's personal WSJ reporter = Nov hike unlikely
(wonder who leaked this story to him?)

 
I’m looking at CVX in the high 150’s (157.50 limit buy). Stock has good fundamentals and I like 157 as a good technical support levels.

Also buying GS at 301 for the same reasons.

On a macro level, I’m going to start legging into the market below 4200. Lots of dry powder (getting 5.5% money market since late Feb) to use.
You missed out on a massive rally. It has been an amazing year so far! Hoping for more opportunities in Q4. CVX is a solid stock. Can't go wrong with them or XOM.

Any thoughts on BRK.B? Down about 10% from its recent high.
 
You missed out on a massive rally. It has been an amazing year so far! Hoping for more opportunities in Q4. CVX is a solid stock. Can't go wrong with them or XOM.

Any thoughts on BRK.B? Down about 10% from its recent high.
I didn't miss out. I moved from 10% cash to 50% cash at 4150. At that point my active portfolio was up ~11% on the year. SPY is kinda near the same spot but I've been clipping a 5% risk free coupon until now.
 
You missed out on a massive rally. It has been an amazing year so far! Hoping for more opportunities in Q4. CVX is a solid stock. Can't go wrong with them or XOM.

Any thoughts on BRK.B? Down about 10% from its recent high.
My thoughts on BRK.b are the same as the Dow- proportionally light on tech and pharma. I think higher rates/longer and student loan resumption will likely hit BRK.b harder than SPY because of the consumer cyclicals and banks that he holds.
 
Finally, UNH came back from a 35 point drop the last two months. I’ve been buying UNH as it went down but didn’t expect it to drop to $475 and brought way more than I expected, about 70% of my stock holding. However, I knew it would come back. I sold about 40% the last two days but expect it to go higher getting close to earning season. I will buy more if it drop $25 and sell if it continue to go up. This stock offset any loses I have from the Tech stocks for the last month or so.

Mostly in CD, treasuries and now cash at about 75% and only 25% in stocks.
UNH now up to $516 waiting for $522 (10% gain this quarter from low) the high from last quarter. I expect it to go close to 52 week high of $558, maybe 530-540 as it gets close to next week earnings. Did the same last quarter trading on the seasonal trend. If I get all four quarters, (10%x 4=40%). I use to trade My 401k company stock getting 40% gain for a few years.

I don’t need to gamble on market movement when I can purchase safer stocks that will go up when the market goes down. I still have my MSFT, AMZN, META, GOOG, AND AAPL, Buying more as the market going down and holding my pharmaceuticals stocks I guess for the long term.
 
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Instead of jacking up rates to tame inflation why not just increase taxes on everything? Consumption tax? Property taxes? That will slow people down. The millionaire tax on real estate used to actually mean something. And at least the tax receipts could be used for something like infrastructure . Who really benefits from an 8% mortgage rate?
 
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People like to note that homeowners won't sell houses because they have a much lower rate, and that is limiting supply.

But those homeowners, because they are staying in those houses, are not buying a house elsewhere, which is limiting demand.

I don't know if it's a wash, but it doesn't tilt the scales as much as the narrative indicates.
I see Las Vegas and Florida has hundreds or thousands of homes for sale. I’m seeing houses up for auction in these areas. Hardly any homes for sales in NJ but plenty other areas.
 
Instead of jacking up rates to tame inflation why not just increase taxes on everything? Consumption tax? Property taxes? That will slow people down. The millionaire tax on real estate used to actually mean something. And at least the tax receipts could be used for something like infrastructure . Who really benefits from an 8% mortgage rate?
It’s hard to unwind taxes once they are passed. Fed Fund rates are very easy to change. What is a bit of a shock to the system is how quickly rates have risen. We closed on our new house last May with a 4.375 rate. A year and a half later rates are 3.5% higher.

Also, rates were artificially low for way too long.
 
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I would like to avoid file any additional tax form for a LLP in my 401k. I purchased some ET stock and I believe if it is below a certain % of the 401k, no tax form need to be filed year end?
 
Instead of jacking up rates to tame inflation why not just increase taxes on everything? Consumption tax? Property taxes? That will slow people down. The millionaire tax on real estate used to actually mean something. And at least the tax receipts could be used for something like infrastructure . Who really benefits from an 8% mortgage rate?
Manchin brought this idea up a year or two ago, and it went over like a wet fart.

We know Republicans are going to be against the idea of raising taxes

And I don't think Dem's wanted to be guilty of giving everyone money, and then quickly taking it back.

But I agree it was probably the thing to do. (and combine it with a spending cut, and attack the deficit a little).
 
Interesting day for the markets. Missed everything due to work! LOL.
I fully expected to see this thread ripping along with the market.

I assume the market, after the initial sell off, is seeing this good news....... as good news.
 


Not to much ground breaking here beyond the headlines.

But he does note the trend downward has been broken, as has the trend of downward revisions as July and Aug were both revised upward.
 
Santelli think inflation is not done due to gov't deficit spending. Thinks rates could go much higher.

 
Not a serious POV. Bad job by Santelli on this one.

Santelli and his easel lol. He does point out why defunding the IRS is a really bad idea though (apologies to the billionaires on here hiding tax liabilities in complicated partnership structures).
 
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Not a serious POV. Bad job by Santelli on this one.
Certainly sounds extreme (and some may say talk like this is indicative of a top) but one does wonder what effect the growing deficit will have.

Will never happen but if we think infrastructure spending is feeding inflation why not slow(not stop) the release of that spending?
 
Certainly sounds extreme (and some may say talk like this is indicative of a top) but one does wonder what effect the growing deficit will have.

Will never happen but if we think infrastructure spending is feeding inflation why not slow(not stop) the release of that spending?
I'm all for decreasing gov'ment spending for many reasons.
 
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