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The ZETA webinar was very insightful. Tom Lee was fully supportive and showed data on how short selling reports normal fizzle out and stocks return to previous levels. The CEO and CFO were very compelling and covered all the things the report got wrong - basic facts and assumptions. They logically refuted all the big points and announced a bunch of future commitments:
1. Share buybacks will begin very soon and $100m is just the start. They currently have $420m in cash.
2. Execs getting clearance from legal to start buying shares themselves (need permission since they are still in the closed trading window from the earnings report).
3. Planning for a dividend later in 2025.
4. Holding a full Investor Day next week with WS analysts to answer questions and review business plans
5. Holding a public data event in a few weeks to cover all data sources, tools, methods, and operations. To prove everything is compliant and above board.
As such, I bought back all my shares today and with the remaining profit (via the price going from $25 to $17) I bought June 2025 calls. 😁
The ZETA webinar was very insightful. Tom Lee was fully supportive and showed data on how short selling reports normal fizzle out and stocks return to previous levels. The CEO and CFO were very compelling and covered all the things the report got wrong - basic facts and assumptions. They logically refuted all the big points and announced a bunch of future commitments:
1. Share buybacks will begin very soon and $100m is just the start. They currently have $420m in cash.
2. Execs getting clearance from legal to start buying shares themselves (need permission since they are still in the closed trading window from the earnings report).
3. Planning for a dividend later in 2025.
4. Holding a full Investor Day next week with WS analysts to answer questions and review business plans
5. Holding a public data event in a few weeks to cover all data sources, tools, methods, and operations. To prove everything is compliant and above board.
As such, I bought back all my shares today and with the remaining profit (via the price going from $25 to $17) I bought June 2025 calls. 😁
That there is one of best examples of correlation not equaling causation I've ever seen. 😂
100% agree. In relation to “Trump and EV’s don’t mix” it works
Did they discuss filing a lawsuit against the short-seller? If not, that’s a huge red flag. I’m also concerned that they uttered the “d” word (dividend) given the cash on hand and recent growth. Tech companies don’t pay dividends until they reach a level of maturity or have cash to burn. Seems odd not to mention in conjunction with buybacks.
$38 a few days ago to current AH 6% pop to $18 = absolute disaster. But who knows it may take a while for folks to process the CEO interview. I also see more law firms are circling the carcass and signing up class action plaintiffs. Legals fees are going to hurt Zeta unless this gets resolved quickly.
Actually, Tom Lee brought up the subject. He recommended against going down that road because any impact is short-lived (unless there is something legit like SMCI). Supposedly, the short seller already deleted some of the "research" that was posted on their website. Let's see what happened. The CEO didn't directly say whether or not a lawsuit is on the table.
I'm sure the dividend would be modest, but they said they are committed to returning value back to shareholders (buybacks and dividends). Personally, I want buybacks! Sounds like their cash pile is forecasted to significantly increase over the next 2 years.
Elon will make sure that Trump pays him back in other ways. Probably will get FSD fast tracked and available sooner than it should be. There will be a deal that will help TSLA way more than loosing carbon credits, etc.
Bobby Kennedy Jr attempting to end the American pharmaceutical industry…
Bernie Sanders would have been awful as President but not quite this awful.
Bernie Sanders would have been awful as President but not quite this awful.
Many in NJ will be unemployed if he fights the pharmaceutical industry.
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I bet it sells back off though.
Think SMCI will drag Zeta down till it can really prove this to be false.
PFE down today. I added a trading leg onto my bigger position. Will sell the former whether it goes up or down, will sell the latter if it continues to drop.
Like taking the Covid Vaccine I wouldn't be the first, but if enough people do it, I'd do it.
Not saying it would be the right thing to do, but Musk will make sure he gets paid.
Once the tariff wars begin and the world moves back towards nationalism, China will have to further stimulate their economy.
Dividend??? They are going to need the money for lawyers. ZETA may or may not be wrong, but I will sell the stock on the next up swing.
By the way, do you know the details on SMCI? I haven't followed it too closely. What are the accounting issues they are accused of? Obviously, these accusations are legitimate.
What? I don’t get the comparison. You can just take an Uber with human driver or drive yourself.
IMO the robo-taxi will only work if it’s significantly cheaper than a driver. If the pricing is close, I’d rather pay a few extra bucks to Uber for a human behind the wheel.
Funny thing is my 15 year old son bought a small amount of Zeta the night before the collapse. He’s been trading for the last two months and has done nothing but pick winners = As if that was hard in this market. But Zeta taught him a valuable lesson. Plus he doesn’t know what it’s like to trade/invest in a bear market.
IMHO, Robotaxi won’t work in NYC. You have to be aggressive to get to places. Not sure a CPU can determine that. If FSD works, I would be the first to sign up. But beta mode is not for me.
I agree - a robotaxi in NYC won’t make it past the first cross-walk. Then you have the people that will purposely walk into the robotaxi so they can sue Tesla. Better be loaded with cameras.
Took a Waymo in San Francisco. It clearly went out of its way to avoid traffic. It seemed like they routed them to specific streets that they worked better on. Definitely would be a mess in a busier city/part of city.
They are, they just don’t have as many to sell yet based on their production volume, home charging, etc
They are doing themselves in - 18% positive rating in Gallup poll
I know its not all of them tilting sketch and I know MDs part of problem
How do 1 in 7 people end-up on meds proven not to work (25% of women over 40)?
I have women clients on meds 10, 15, 20 years who are brain cripped.
Asthma sprays have become garbage - better off with Primatene on Amazon
Retail, Pharmaceutical Industries Slip in Public Esteem
Americans' opinions of the retail and pharmaceutical industries have suffered the most over the past year, with Democrats increasingly negative about retail and Republicans about the pharmaceutical industry.
news.gallup.com
from a personal level the vaccine was definitely not a need.
Depends on how you define it. No, the covid vaccine didn't provider 100% protection for contracting the disease the way some claimed. But if you got it the vaccine provided less severe symptoms and quicker recovery. I'd say that was a need in my book.
DEFTF earnings out, beat consensus 0.5 EPS, actual EPS of .27. Stock is up a little but I expect higher after noon earnings call. Current price is 2.14
I had already had covid. Im young enough and healthy enough that it was not a need.
So back on topic, like driving in a robotaxi, if it got fast tracked like the vaccine was I wouldn’t be the first to hop in one but after a bit of field testing i wouldn’t be too concerned.
And of course it’s been in the process of field testing for years.
I don’t get the fascination with robotaxis especially if they won’t launch in major metros like NYC. Also, the price would have to be way cheaper than a human driver. If Elon wants to solve a real issue then tackle short-distance mass air transport for everyday people. Trains and busses suck. Would be awesome to jump on an aircraft in Newark and get dropped off in NYC avoiding all the traffic, stops, and tunnel BS.
I recently got back in.
Been battling with $2.20 for awhile. I think if it can get through it could go on another big run.
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