And how many people in the thunder front office do you know? If it's not more than two I may have you beat. Not a surprise.
OT: Trenton Keeps Major League Baseball Association
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And how many people in the thunder front office do you know? If it's not more than two I may have you beat. Not a surprise.
Without affiliation to The Yanks, or Phils, Trenton never would’ve survived this long. Unfortunately I think they’re in big trouble but hope I’m wrong.
Again clueless. Amazing how little you know about minor league baseball and the appeal. Why is Lakewood so successful in a Yankees market? Why is the Iron Pigs so successful in a market closer to NYC?
They did great when they were a Detroit and Red Sox affiliates. Tony Clark and Nomar were big draws. As an independent league team they may barely survive.
Not true.
When they were a Red Sox affiliate they had great attendance numbers.
From Wikipedia:
In 2006, the Thunder became the first team in Minor League Baseball history to draw over 400,000 fans for 12 consecutive seasons, at the Double-A level or below.
The first 8 seasons of this streak they were a Red Sox team.
Maybe this is just me, but I just don’t see families from Ewing, Hamilton, Bordentown , etc. no longer going to pro baseball and a fun night out at the Trenton stadium to drive up to Bridgewater, whether their favorite MLB team is the Phillies, Yankees, Padres , or none at all.
Gonna assume Somerset will cash in on this new Yankee affiliation with higher prices.. once Wuhan virus crisis is over.
They wont.. but the families that already make the Somerset club successful will.
They were only a Detroit affiliate for their first year and they did draw well.
Clark, Nomar and David Eckstein are the only Thunder players to have their numbers retired. I believe Eckstein was the first Thunder alum to be on a WS winning team.
Interestingly, no Thunder number has been retired for any future Yankee but I'm sure if things continued the way they are Aaron Judge would probably be the first.
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I was curious how long the longest running Indy teams in New Jersey have been around. Both the Jackals and Patriots have been playing since 1998.
Good Ol, yes I agree that current Patriots fans will continue to follow the new team, unless the team doesn’t keep the prices down. I just don’t see Trenton losing very many fans and I think they will be around for years to come.
The Camden River Sharks failed miserably in an awesome stadium because they were just a few miles from the Phillies. The AC Surf failed miserably because no goes to AC to watch baseball or even goes to AC anymore
What?? Why wouldn't Trenton be? They are closer to Philly. People in Lakewood don't get Philly games! That is Yankee country
The casinos never really did anything to support the Surf. Heck, they barely got involved in the LPGA tournament that was there forever. The Riversharks demise doesn’t have anything to do with being near the Phillies. Minor league baseball competition is never Major League Baseball. It is the movies, mini golf, bowling, ice skating, Summer nights on the boardwalk. Completely different demographic. I am probably a minority-going to Phillies and Blue Claws Games.
WhiteBus, everybody in Ocean County gets Philadelphia and New York City TV stations. I live right next door in Manchester. It is a mixture of Phillies and Yankees fans around here, with some Red Sox and Mets fans thrown in.
After the switch.
Ok, how about this: If the players were good enough to play AA, they wouldnt have to play for the Patriots or Ducks.
Huh?? You don't know they are a Mets affiliate?? They aren't an independent team. Camden and AC were Indenpendent League Teams.
My sister lives in Toms River, my younger brother lives in Point Pleasant Boro. I grew up in Lavallette. No one is supporting the Blue Claws because they are Phillies fans. They go because it is a cheap night out with family and possibly seeing a future major leaguer. And neither of them gets Phillies games. They get Philly local channels but no Philly Comcast channels.
Speaking of the Brooklyn Cyclones, says the owner is Steve Cohen. Did he own them before he bought the Mets or was it part of the new Mets purchase?
White Bus, like I said the area is a mixture of Phillies and Yankees fans. I have lived here for going on 17 years having Comcast and now Verizon Fios. Always got Philly sports—Phillies, 76ers, Flyers. Not sure what kind of TV packages you need to get them, but I never get the Super Platinum package so it is probably the second least expensive.
As already explained above Lakewood is not. It’s part of but not really “Phillies country” IMO.
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A lot of the allure of MILB is the team and it's association with the community. The Thunder was tremendously popular as a Red Sox farm team. Has Mercer County ever been Red Sox country? Of course not. People of Trenton looked at them as THEIR team and there always was that feeling of pride whenever one of their guys made it to the big leagues, no matter what team it was. One of the coolest places at Waterfront Park is the poster inside that's titled "The Road to the Major Leagues Goes Through Trenton". On this were the names of all the former Thunder players, the years they were on the team and the year and the ML team for which they made their debut. Most of them were not with the Yankees. People were constantly crowded around that board pointing at names and taking pictures. That won't happen as an Atlantic League team. The league is mostly made up of has beens and never will bes.
The ownership and marketing of the team was responsible for the Patriots success. That ownership plus the lure of watching future Yankees play might end up with Somerset breaking all kinds of minor league attendance records.
Here is a list of ALL Atlantic League Alum who made it to the Major Leagues. The ones you know are the ones who were dropped by MLB teams and were looking for a place to play. The league is not to well known for developing players.
www.atlanticleague.com
The ownership and marketing of the team was responsible for the Patriots success. That ownership plus the lure of watching future Yankees play might end up with Somerset breaking all kinds of minor league attendance records.
Here is a list of ALL Atlantic League Alum who made it to the Major Leagues. The ones you know are the ones who were dropped by MLB teams and were looking for a place to play. The league is not to well known for developing players.
Atlantic League Professional Baseball: Notable Alumni
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The Somerset Patriots average attendance as an independent team has been 5,100-5,200+ every year for over a decade, which is remarkable and has been higher than Trenton or virtually the same, so I'm not sure why anyone is doubting the Patriots attendance and fan support. The community supports the Patriots because it's inexpensive fun in a nice ballpark. I'd guess attendance will jump with the Yankees affiliation.
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Thankfully it's part of the purchase
New York Mets keep core of MiLB affiliates in place | Ballpark Digest
The New York Mets will keep the core of their MiLB affiliates in place, with the only change adding the Brooklyn Cyclones as a new full-season affiliate.
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If you have confidence in the government's ability to clean and monitor one of the most polluted Superfund sites in history, God bless you and enjoy the games. I lived closed to that area at the time and I followed the cleanup very closely, I wouldn't step near that stadium or that train station.
Yep, but having lived in that area during that time, I am just not comfortable walking around and spending time on that particular piece of land.
now.. you could argue that the site should be larger.. but it is not on the actual superfund site.
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If true about the Cyclones move to the South Atlantic League...great news for the BlueClaws too as they are in the same league and hopefully division now too.Thankfully it's part of the purchase
New York Mets keep core of MiLB affiliates in place | Ballpark Digest
The New York Mets will keep the core of their MiLB affiliates in place, with the only change adding the Brooklyn Cyclones as a new full-season affiliate.ballparkdigest.com
In the past the Mets affiliate (Savannah and then Columbia) usually only came north once in May.
They went out of their way to exclude the northern 140 acre Hill property where the baseball stadium sits even though that is where the research facility sat claiming the real contamination was located in the southern part of the site. Again, I lived in the area, and I have no confidence that the clean up of the property was handled correctly. I simply don't believe the EPA, they had an agenda to show that the could safely reuse these sites. Even the EPA's owns propaganda piece, excerpt below, admits there was groundwater contamination on that 140 acres. I am simply stating that I would not take my family to that ballpark or use that train facility, if others choose to do so, God bless.
"The 140-acre Hill Property, located on the northern part of the site, historically included a research laboratory and administrative buildings. Heavy industrial manufacturing and waste disposal areas were located on the southern part of the site. Remedial investigations at the Hill Property determined that the contaminants detected in the soils did not pose an unacceptable risk to human health or the environment. No further action with groundwater monitoring was selected as the remedy for the Hill Property soils. In the early 1980s, after groundwater contamination was identified at the site, American Cyanamid Company installed groundwater extraction wells on the Hill Property to create a hydraulic gradient that would prevent Figure 4. The American Cyanamid Co. Superfund site previously included the 140-acre northern Hill Property where redevelopment has already taken place. Cleanup of remaining site areas is ongoing. 4 contamination from moving off the site parcels. As a result, groundwater contamination migrated from the former manufacturing areas onto the Hill Property. In 1996, EPA selected long-term monitoring and institutional controls to prevent exposure to contaminated groundwater at the Hill Property."
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If you’re right - and you may be . What’s the real risk for kids and families for a few hours a summer ?
Now working there or playing there is another issue . Lots of high school tournaments there I believe
You might be right as far as going to a couple games a year, but I just don't feel comfortable on that site for any amount of time. I admit that may be just me. As far as working there, being a season ticket holder, or commuting everyday, that is another story.
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