If you saw my earlier post, the Windtalkers name does just that.I was also hoping for "Red Tails," although I (and most native Americans) didn't have a problem with "Redskins". "Red Tails" would honor some deserving folks...
They were never going to use anything to do with American Indians again.If you saw my earlier post, the Windtalkers name does just that.
Which is a shame because there is a right way to do it.They were never going to use anything to do with American Indians again.
Funny that you think it’s really his choice.I always thought capitalists where in favor of owners running their own companies. Snyder wanted to change the name. What‘s the problem?
Kind of odd to be mad about somebody making decisions for himself while whining that people shouldn’t tell others what to do.
“As more native Americans become aware of their heritage”. What does that mean? A bunch of people bought DNA tests online and now they think they are Native Americans that need to be offended? Guess they can always look to Elizabeth Warren for guidance.you don't like what's found , insult the ones that published it because it goes against what you think is true.
As more Native Americans become better aware of their heritage, maybe that's why the poll results changed.
Maybe going by what more than one dictionary says a word means is for wokes..
another Woke U finding:
New University of Michigan research reveals high rates of opposition to not only the use of gestures and chants, but also to Native American mascots and team names like the NFL’s Washington Redskins.
The results run contrary to polls reported by national news outlets, which suggest that as few as 10% of Native peoples are offended by Native mascots and, specifically, the Redskins team name.
https://isr.umich.edu/news-events/n...ants-more-offensive-than-previously-reported/
disclaimer: seems like UM and Cal-Berkeley jointly did the study aI posted you called from a Woke U
This had nothing to Do with capitalism or what Snyder wanted. He got pressure from the league and interest groups and folded. Probably because he didn’t want people digging into all the other issues within the organization.I always thought capitalists where in favor of owners running their own companies. Snyder wanted to change the name. What‘s the problem?
Kind of odd to be mad about somebody making decisions for himself while whining that people shouldn’t tell others what to do.
I'll place that in the that's a shame category, Warriors, Braves, Chiefs, Apaches, Fighting Sioux, Comanches, Wind talkers, to name a few are all great tributes.They were never going to use anything to do with American Indians again.
That is an interesting and creative idea. I wouldn't have thought of that.Still like my idea of Windtalkers:
Funny that you think it’s really his choice.
Put me down as one of those who is surprised the name was allowed to exist as long as it has but that’s where we are/were.
The larger purpose was the NFL saying, “Dan, it’s time to figure out a new name.”It was surely his choice. He’s doing it because he can make more money with a different team name. Pure capitalism. He wasn’t motivated to do this for some larger purpose.
If you check out my earlier post in the thread you can see how this one checks a lot boxes.That is an interesting and creative idea. I wouldn't have thought of that.
Appeals to my affection for alliteration and history.
Just more capitalism.The larger purpose was the NFL saying, “Dan, it’s time to figure out a new name.”
Today they would call that "cultural appropriation".I'll place that in the that's a shame category, Warriors, Braves, Chiefs, Apaches, Fighting Sioux, Comaches to name a few are all great tributes.
Ironically I played on an all African American mens baseball team when I was 15, we were The Montclair Apaches....lol
Miami University and others changed their team names because of public pressure and/or a sense of purpose.This had nothing to Do with capitalism or what Snyder wanted. He got pressure from the league and interest groups and folded. Probably because he didn’t want people digging into all the other issues within the organization.
Only if they hired Red Klotz as HC.Should’ve gone with the Generals.
And make money off of itThe larger purpose was the NFL saying, “Dan, it’s time to figure out a new name.”
Which is what the NFL did…play our game or will make difficult to do what you want to do.Just more capitalism.
I have no problem with capitalism. But I do laugh when supposed capitalists and free-righters get up in arms and rant at leftists because other capitalists act in their own interests.
My central point was that it is capitalism at work. You indirectly agree with that by saying it was the other NFL capitalists, not protestors, that pressured Snyder to change.Which is what the NFL did…play our game or will make difficult to do what you want to do.
If you believe he did it on his own, fine.
But the bottom line is it wasn’t his choice.My central point was that it is capitalism at work. You indirectly agree with that by saying it was the other NFL capitalists, not protestors, that pressured Snyder to change.
The other point - which is not directed at you - is that supposed pro-capitalists are up in arms over capitalistic actions but directing their anger at protestors.
There is no more Mr. Potato Head. That got canceled, Woked, PC'd , or whatever you call it. Just reporting the facts. That would be Strike Two on naming infractions... LOL.the mascot should be mr potato head.
caused REALLY Red Skin down there. Hence the preference by some for Red Tails. (relax folks. I just another one of those stupid Polocks (or Polack if you want to slur me) trying to make a joke).Why would it offend their assholes? Did it cause diarrhea or constipation?
He can also choose not to make money off of it thoughBut still not his choice.
Tell that to Cleveland!should have never changed from Redskins to begin with
I always thought capitalists where in favor of owners running their own companies. Snyder wanted to change the name. What‘s the problem?
Kind of odd to be mad about somebody making decisions for himself while whining that people shouldn’t tell others what to do.
When historians look back at the rot eating this country from the inside out they will point to this phrase as the trigger for the beginning of the decline of the U.S.
"I'm offended."
Lol ...so you went from "Native Americans don't care" to "only [loads] Native Americans who I discount for no reason care."
STFU.
That really is it for me. I don't think Indians or Seminoles or Utes or Apaches is a particularly bad idea for a team's nickname.with no stake in this, I'd like to think maybe our thinking is evolving to simply say, the idea of a team nickname of [insert color] + skins may be not an ideal term, that we can and should do better?
hoping Redwolves or Redtails would be it, but I suspect Dan S will keep WFT.
Totally agree.That really is it for me. I don't think Indians or Seminoles or Utes or Apaches is a particularly bad idea for a team's nickname.
But "Redskins" is particularly disgusting. Can you imagine another team having a name that was "(insert color)-skins" ?
They're gonna become Tom's River South?Still like my idea of Windtalkers:
- you honor the Native American contributions made by those in defense of our Country
- you get to keep the Native American imagery too
- the alliteration for either “Washington Windtalkers/Warriors” works very well
And they could use these sick throwbacks for either…
Learned how to spell tongue in the DC public school system? HahahaTotally agree.
How about the Washington Pale Faces, or Forked Tounges
I think that name is still owned by somebody. Infact, I'm pretty sure the USFL is supposed come back in the spring with the Jersey Generals as one of the teams.Should’ve gone with the Generals.
The Washington PorkThe Washington Deficits
The Washington ridlock
The Washington Waste
…anything that implies, waste, inefficiency, party politics, stagnation…