Going this afternoon. Fixed my FIL's computer and he's paying me in booze. Thinking about the Aberlour 18. Tried the 16 and A'Bunadh, figured I'd go for the trifecta.
OT: Why is Eddie Jordan still...
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Please recheck the history -
Cox served as interim head coach during Rice's three-game suspension in the 2012-2013 season and once again assumed the position after Rice's firing.
Cox finished the remainder of the 2013 season as interim head coach.
Rutgers did not participate in "March Madness" - Rutgers season concluded before it began.
Jordan was named the head coach in mid-April, 2013
Rutgers did not "panic" - in fact - before getting serious with Jordan, Rutgers engaged in some serious discussions with at least one other potential coach (Hurley) - and for a short period it really was his to take - but mutually acceptable terms were not reached.
It was NOT a "PC" hire - but it could easily be called a "PR" hire - clearly the hope was that the return of one of the heroes of the 1976 Final Four team - a past NBA HC - and currently an assistant coach with the LA Lakers - would cast some bright light on the tarnished RU program.
this might be of interest to even the casual RU basketball fan, logically a subset of the diehard RU football fanbase
Yeah, I am definitely not a Scotch expert but I had this once with a friend, a Scotch enthusiast. It gave me no heart burn and the buzz just kicked in immediately after one drink. I did not think anything can top Johnny Walker Blue (a blended Scotch), but this single malt drink really does it for me. However, it's too expensive to do on a regular basis.
I think Eddie is here because nobody - and I mean nobody - wants this job.
If there is someone who wants this job the odds are that they stink.
Like Groucho Marx once said, "I wouldn't want to join any club that would have me as a member". I wouldn't want any coach willing to take this job unless and until there is a quantum leap made in the facilities to help attract recruits.
If there is someone who wants this job the odds are that they stink.
Like Groucho Marx once said, "I wouldn't want to join any club that would have me as a member". I wouldn't want any coach willing to take this job unless and until there is a quantum leap made in the facilities to help attract recruits.
Johnny Walker Blue isn't on the same level as Macallan 18. That's not a snobbish comment, just reality. I've had Blue once. It's not a bad Scotch (ignoring that it's a blend) but it doesn't hold on the pallet. A $200 bottle should be more complex. For the $ if you want a good JW, save the $250 and get a bottle of Green which was reintroduced last year. The problem is for the cost you can get a nice 12 year malt.
I'm sure Spanky would live to add to the convo.
About that. Scored a nice bottle for $180 earlier in the year and looked to replace it over the Holidays and couldn't find one locally for under $220. I always keep a Doublewood in stock for weekends.
I've been on an Islay kick lately. Currently working on a bottle of Lagavulin 16 which is slowly becoming a regular for me. Bought a bottle of Laphroaig Select which turned out to be a big disappointment.
If you like the Islays and haven't tried a good Bruichladdich, you should. The 21s are ridiculously priced and probably not worth the money, but you can get a solid 12 in the $55-$65 range.
That's not true. I know for a fact Ben Howland was interested. Very interested. They never even interviewed him.
Question for you; about 5 years ago I went to the Kentucky Derby and decided to visit Woodford Reserve distillery and partake in a tasting. I decided to buy 6 bottles of Bourbon. The labels were totally cool because they incorporated a picture of the track and field. Just curious, where does Woodford rank on your list?
Specific to bourbon, I'd put it at the bottom of the upper third. It's a fine spirit, well-crafted, but the 18% rye in the mash bill is just way too grassy for me. I like a higher barley content - Woodford's is 10% (it's 72% corn).
How successful you are in the NBA depends massively on who is playing ball for you. When EJ had good players, he did well.
I didn't think his skill set translated well to the college game, but I was more than willing to give him a chance.
When something like the Rice tapes happens, there is almost always stuff going on behind the scenes in addition to that.
Take you at your word on not hiring a scumbag coach, but there are many on the board who have advocated hiring coaches who have shady records if it meant we would win. Glad to see you aren't in that crowd.
This thread is absolute proof that all conversations are better when they're about whiskey.
And yet C. Vivian Stringer is able to attract top recruits from all over the country to play for the WBB team....with the same facilities. I think it's 'cause recruits wanna play for her, not Rutgers.
I've seen who wants to play for Eddie...we're screwed.
In concept, he might have have some sort of interest - but he also had some ideas about compensation ... and since .. now Ben Howland's contract with Mississippi State is worth $2.05 million per year for four years.... it is pretty obvious that his compensation ideas were substantially beyond what Rutgers could do at the time.
- the idea of Howland probably also became even more unlikely when considering the critical press about his time at UCLA & his departure - juxtaposed with the aftermath of the Rice situation.
Because he wanted big money and a commitment to facilities and infrastructure.
We said, oh...uhhh nevermind.
Which is why I am shaking my head reading all these posts of coaching suggestions of somewhat successful guys. Coming to this program in its current state is 100% career suicide.
Listen, the product on the court hasn't been good. But he took over a mess. The guy everyone wanted, besides EJ, wanted a 7 YEAR GUARANTY b/c of how big of a mess we were in.
You said EJ can't recruit? He brought in Sanders 4 star, Freeman 4 star, and Laurent 3 star, who look to have bright futures. Do you remember what ASH said when he took over? Rutgers Footballl is a DISASTER from the outside looking in. What do you think Basketball's image is? And he still brought in those 3 guys…
Eddie deserves more tim IMO. You may think he doesn't. Fine. But any smart person looking at the overall shape of the AD, knows, we don't have the funds to buy-out coaches and pay for a new coach. Playing the coaching carousel doesn't set us up for success either. Eddie will get more time; this is a FACT. And either improvement will be made with more experienced and talented roster in year 5, or a new coach (paid market value) will take over with a full roster and new facilities.
You said EJ can't recruit? He brought in Sanders 4 star, Freeman 4 star, and Laurent 3 star, who look to have bright futures. Do you remember what ASH said when he took over? Rutgers Footballl is a DISASTER from the outside looking in. What do you think Basketball's image is? And he still brought in those 3 guys…
Eddie deserves more tim IMO. You may think he doesn't. Fine. But any smart person looking at the overall shape of the AD, knows, we don't have the funds to buy-out coaches and pay for a new coach. Playing the coaching carousel doesn't set us up for success either. Eddie will get more time; this is a FACT. And either improvement will be made with more experienced and talented roster in year 5, or a new coach (paid market value) will take over with a full roster and new facilities.
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Since there's really not much, if any, to be negative about RU FB and a ray of hope has stoped the doom and gloom posts, it seems now if we want to be negative about a program talk about RU MBB
and how bad it's doing and how the HC needs to be replaced .:D
Not complaining , I could have ignored this thread if I didn't like it being posted on the FB board,
I just find it funny that now this board has to import problems because RU FB looks more positive than it has in a long time and there really isn't anything to complain about. [thumb2]
Since there's really not much, if any, to be negative about RU FB and a ray of hope has stoped the doom and gloom posts, it seems now if we want to be negative about a program talk about RU MBB
and how bad it's doing and how the HC needs to be replaced .:D
Not complaining , I could have ignored this thread if I didn't like it being posted on the FB board,
I just find it funny that now this board has to import problems because RU FB looks more positive than it has in a long time and there really isn't anything to complain about. [thumb2]
Not necessarily true. Eddie is making $1.5 this year. Howland negotiated the best deal he could. If Rutgers got to him first he may have accepted. Kirschner and whomever else never even tried, even though he was interested. So anyone who says it was Eddie or no one doesn't know what they are talking about.
There was no critical press of Howland. Ucla fired him after 10 years for not going far enough in the NCAA tourney. They have high standards. I fully believe we could of had him. Would have been a nice hire. Unfortunately Barchi had a teacher calling shots.
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Probably because they've been following the program and seen what he's done.
That happens everywhere.
I thought hiring Eddie was a good move from a PR Aand coaching standpoint when he was hired.
PR move became a liability when RU didn't check if he had his degree and posted that he did.
Jordan never claimed to have one and RU just assumed he did.
On his coaching, even starting behind the eight-ball because of Rice's actions and then the mess
involved in firing Mile Rice, Jordan hasn't shown he is the one that can make RU a winner based on what the team has shown so far.
Many of those you are pointing out claimed it would take Eddie seven years to right the ship too a point that the program would be a constant dance team, but in year 3 those fans have given up hope.
Can't say I blame them, but I'll wait till the end of next season to join the off with his head bunch.
As it looks , right now, I'll probably be joining them sometime before next season ends.
So I won't say those who want Eddie out are premature, just hope that they are.
um sorry but he either has to be fired or extended, do you support an extension to 7 years. No star recruits for next year and no one will come to a coach without an extension
Not sure if you understood my point...? I was trying to say it is completely rational to make a choice, see the results, and then call for a change. Just attempting to point out that it's not entirely strange to call for someone to be hired, then later call for that person's firing.
Believe me, I think you're more than rational for having doubts about Eddie at this point.
Anyone know how many season tickets were sold this season?
If Eddie returns next season, and guess on how many season tix will be sold?
Also, would anyone here drop some or all of their tickets if he stays?
(Can't imagine us picking up any NEW season ticket holders. Recent graduates certainly will not buy them based on what they have experienced while at school.)
If Eddie returns next season, and guess on how many season tix will be sold?
Also, would anyone here drop some or all of their tickets if he stays?
(Can't imagine us picking up any NEW season ticket holders. Recent graduates certainly will not buy them based on what they have experienced while at school.)
He can't rate threads anymore so this is the next best thing
Mostly agree. Really torn on Eddie: seems like a great guy and we know he bleeds scarlet, plus he was a successful coach in the pros (moreso as an assistant), so I thought it was a pretty good hire, especially after the Rice debacle. However, he certainly hasn't done much to turn the program around.
I was excited with the Sanders/Freeman/Laurent class, but this year has been horrible, even before all the injuries hit. Would we have "gelled" without the injuries? I kind of doubt it, but I'm guessing he'll get one more year. Problem is no recruits coming in - if he could somehow get a decent class, there might be hope, but that's looking bleak, so far.
As an aside, anyone who calls Jordan a PC hire is delusional. Eddie has a great resume as a coach in his career, spending several years as an assistant at the college level, then several more as an assistant at the pro level, and then obviously being considered good enough to be hired as a head coach for three different teams. And he was moderately successful, at least with the Wizards, guiding them to 4 straight playoff appearances.
compare apples to apples - Eddie Jordan,'s deal paid $1.1 million in his first full calendar year, - Howland might have been flexible - but ... suspect that there was doubt that he would be that flexible to start off in this range - - and - - as you may recall there was a brief but serious discussion with a guy that they really were quite interested in named Hurley but .. RU was not willing or able to step up to the $$$ level that Hurley had in mind ( or maybe Hurley just used $$$ as a way to exit the dialog?) ...
There was no critical press of Howland? OH YES THERE WAS - now ,it was largely a whole bunch of noise (see below) - with lots of speculation & virtually all of the noise flowed from the one article - which was parroted by others - but when crap gets sprayed around - it takes a bit for it all to settle down - and this crap contributed to Howland finding it challenging to be taken as a serious candidate for a while
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2013/03/25/ucla-ben-howland
The moment things started to unravel for Ben Howland at UCLA
http://www.bruinsnation.com/2012/2/...xposes-howland-and-guerrero-for-wrecking-ucla
Sports Illustrated Exposes Howland and Guerrero for Wrecking UCLA Basketball
Did someone say my name?
Macallan 18 is damn good. I also like a Springbank 21yo - but that is both expensive and very hard to find. The 15yo, though, ain't that bad at all and you can usually pick that up for around $95.
Oh, yeah, baby. As much as I like the Blue, I love the Green. The company (I believe they were Japanese) who bought out the company that owned JW back in 2011 decided that because the Green was made strictly from a blend of single malts over 15 years old, they weren't gonna make it as of the end of 2012. All of the other JW blends are a combination of single malts and grain whiskies, which are cheaper to make. I'm not sure why they changed their mind, but they began to make it in limited quantities in 2014, primarily for the asian export market.
Lagavulin's a mouthful - I really have to be in the mood to have one.
Yep, Bruichladdich 12 is good stuff - I finished off my bottle back in the fall.
And good single malt scotch always seems to make any conversation better!
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