OTB open Letter to Hobbs on Basketball Mess
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Because $ doesn't grow on trees. Where does the $ come for a buyout? Does it influence what we pay the next coach?
I believe we are losing money long term by not correcting this issue.
Can someone subjectively tier the best 5 coaches in college basketball and then the next best 5? I want to see them type the list, then fill in about 90 more names. After that, start looking at the best of thhe names you haven't written down yet. There's your next coaching pool without physical progress in facilities.
Which is why we spent $ on a coach...but it didn't work.
Keep in mind I am probably the most and earliest anti Jordan guy there is. I just want to make sure we aren't making a big mistake worse. 1 thing to endure 2 more years...another to endure 6 more because we hired a coach on the cheap.
I just can't take the awful outcomes anymore. A different coach has got to be able to do a better job. Give me Rice, give me FHJ, give me Waters, give me Wenzel, give me Bannon.
Anything but these Littlepage years all over again.
I saw online the other day......Best coach in the Big 10 Tom Izzo....the next 12 coaches interchangeable...worst coach in the Big 10 Eddie Jordan. Facts are facts
I'm with you on Rice, Waters, Wenzel, and Bannon. But, I want anyone but FHJ. He started this downward spiral into basketball purgatory.
You win, cyrock, because you are the poster to get me back to Rivals. Even for one post. And it's the most easily refuted post ever:
http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2010/01/politi_as_rutgers_mens_basketb.html
http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2010/01/politi_as_rutgers_mens_basketb.html
Then why bother defending Hill in your recent OTB post?
Probably just got caught up in the moment there and then reverted to your mean.
More likely just something I worded poorly and then tried to fix with an edit. But that's ok.
Might not have likes some of Dan White's posts before he left and argued with him over a few, but
feel he's just as big a RU MBB as anyone on this board.
As for defending Fred Hill and being upset with his firing, seems like Dan proved when Freddie was fired it wasn't a problem to him seeing Hill go.
Heck I was a Freddie supporter till his last year , but that doesn't mean I was sad to see Pernetti
let him go. He needed to go because he wasn't going to make RU MBB into a good program.
When I (occasionally) bring up Hill's final season's W-L record and compare it to Rice's years doesn't mean I think Hill was a good HC, just showing Rice wasn't much better than a bad one.
feel he's just as big a RU MBB as anyone on this board.
As for defending Fred Hill and being upset with his firing, seems like Dan proved when Freddie was fired it wasn't a problem to him seeing Hill go.
Heck I was a Freddie supporter till his last year , but that doesn't mean I was sad to see Pernetti
let him go. He needed to go because he wasn't going to make RU MBB into a good program.
When I (occasionally) bring up Hill's final season's W-L record and compare it to Rice's years doesn't mean I think Hill was a good HC, just showing Rice wasn't much better than a bad one.
listen I was the president of the Fred Hill haters club on this board. He ruined the RAC and he torpedoed the interest in this program BUT he overall recruited better than Eddie and at least his program pulled off a few unexpected wins....Eddie has won and is 0-26 vs the top 250 ever since. As bad as Hill was, Jordan is worse. And its painful because Fred was just a jerk and Eddie is a loyal son and nice guy.
No disrespect bac but when I read posts like this I cringe. What you remember as the highlights were at best mediocrity. What were my highlights in the early '80's were mediocrity to the fans from the ''70's. It's all sucked for so long that we cling to these random wins that are highlights to us but from afar just random points on a pitiful existence of a program.
I don't know how but Hobbs has at least $25 million in his pocket and he is the 3rd AD actively raising money for the practice facility. What's the status? We need to get pressure on him and Barchi. Serious question, would you rather have a new coach or an AD that could get the facility committed within 12 months. The later makes Eddie 30% better.
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I am being a realist/negatoid.......if Freeman is out of the program and Lewis we know is gone I can't think our prospect for next year will be a lot better than this year. Let's be honest...there would be a decent chance we lose key players. Marry that and not having $ on a coach. If $ was a big issue we might have to fire Jordan and try the needle in the haystack and go after a HS coach or a mid major.
The Freeman news is a huge blow to the program and could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Let's hope this is minor. Do we ever know why Freeman missed the 1st half of our season opener?
The Freeman news is a huge blow to the program and could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Let's hope this is minor. Do we ever know why Freeman missed the 1st half of our season opener?
Let's just hope it's a weak attempt by EJ to puff his chest a bit. I mean it's pretty easy to suspend a player who's not expected to play the rest of the year. The message he's trying to send if this is the case, is pretty weak.
big difference between a high school coach and a mid major coach.
Even if we had a ton of money, we would be hiring a mid major coach
I think if Eddie comes back we need a new assistant coach who knows NJ really well. We should go after Kevin Boyle as an assistant and give him enough money to get him to RU. He should be told there is a very good chance he could become our next head coach. What do we have to lose? He knows the NJ coaches and he could possibly bring us at least one player from Monteverde. He knows Hobbs very well so I would think Hobbs has him possibly on his mind. I would just like to see RU improve in basketball and hopefully make the NCAA sometime in the near future. I am getting older every day and have been a loyal follower since 1971. Hopefully we can make the NCAA again at some time during my remaining lifetime.
the big similarity is in the probability of success...both pretty low. I hope i am underestimating the $ available to hire a coach if Jordan goes. I wouldn't be shocked though if firing Jordan wasn't even an option (based on finances) on the table. Do we know if hobbs used all his political capital firing Flood?
We do because Hobbs didn't fire Flood. Barchi did.
Now you're saying FHJ overall out recruited Eddie. Fine. I'll even ignore considering their respective starting points. But when Eddies recruiting is brought up the first thing you do is cite Eddie's transfers. Frankly, FHJ's list is too long to type.
okay Hill was a disaster. I never wanted him hired and wanted him gone early. The fact that I am using Hill in an argument to get rid of Jordan says it all. You are totally missing the point of this
