Pike presser ending statement thoughts.

[SBP]

He’s a good man no doubt… he tried to smile and say how good we will be, how excited he is for the future, how proud he is, tough league, more revenue sharing coming, etc, but as time is going by, he and program are taking incoming from everywhere, and it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better.

It’s damage control that really can’t be “controlled”. Deserving or not, which mostly it is, it’s going to be long offseason, and I think he’s going to have a tough time getting top transfers. I truly hope I’m wrong.

Did he lose the freshmen? Grant? Dortch? If they go, I feel the indictment will be too strong, and this could be a make or break season. Especially with new President and AD.

 

[RUGiddy777]

He’s a good man no doubt… he tried to smile and say how good we will be, how excited he is for the future, how proud he is, tough league, more revenue sharing coming, etc, but as time is going by, he and program are taking incoming from everywhere, and it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better.

It’s damage control that really can’t be “controlled”. Deserving or not, which mostly it is, it’s going to be long offseason, and I think he’s going to have a tough time getting top transfers. I truly hope I’m wrong.

Did he lose the freshmen? Grant? Dortch? If they go, I feel the indictment will be too strong, and this could be a make or break season. Especially with new President and AD.

We’re not eating buyouts for a while. Pike has 2 seasons to right the ship - but more likely one or he’ll be a lame duck in year 2.

I love the guy and hope he fixes it.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

Next season is massive for Pike and his career. And for RU as a program. If it’s another losing season the trajectory is likely too tiled and heavy to reverse without some major NIL change for RUs fortune.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

 

[Plum Street]

Next season is massive for Pike and his career. And for RU as a program. If it’s another losing season the trajectory is likely too tiled and heavy to reverse without some major NIL change for RUs fortune.

I mean the guy is pushing 60 so I wouldn’t say it’s massive for his career . He’s already had a long, solid career and is going to go down as an all time Rutgers great.
I do think next year is massive for how the rest of his Rutgers career is going to go

 

[fluoxetine]

We’re not eating buyouts for a while. Pike has 2 seasons to right the ship - but more likely one or he’ll be a lame duck in year 2.

I love the guy and hope he fixes it.

Not sure it’s really possible to be a lame duck (at least not until mid-season). It’s not like if we are horrible next year and then make the tournament in two years we will fire him.

 

[RutgersChow]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

Pitino makes the Tournament with our talent. So might every other coach in the Big 10. There is no defense for Pike this year. The excuses early season were sickness and injuries. How about when Dylan and Ace were later healthy. If its not coaching, its recruiting, and both are on him. As soon as his buyout is cut in half he's gone. Take it to the bank.

 

[fluoxetine]

If its not coaching, its recruiting, and both are on him.

Seton Hall finished 7-25.

 

[bac2therac]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

he is not getting 4 years.....2 years to do something

 

[The RUT]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

Why do you continue to talk about R athletics as if we’re in the Big East?

Rutgers is a major program now. This is a situation where the university proves that to be true.

I do not expect moves to be made for the next couple of years, but say we could see more of this quality of a play and he’ll be here for 5 years is nonsense.

And please, don’t put Schiano and Pike together right now. Schianos program is VERY healthy.

 

[SBP]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

Many don’t think Pike CAN get that level of talent, consistently especially because of what has transpired, and outside of those 2 guys, he has missed more than hit, that’s undeniable

 

[rpiseman]

I don’t like Pike and never have, I find him to be disingenuous with the fan base and incapable of making the tough decisions necessary to be a d-1 college coach. His past minimal success will be the high water mark for the program under his leadership.

With all that said, I agree with Hawk, he’s here until at least 2030 unless he retires.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Why do you continue to talk about R athletics as if we’re in the Big East?

Rutgers is a major program now. This is a situation where the university proves that to be true.

I do not expect moves to be made for the next couple of years, but say we could see more of this quality of a play and he’ll be here for 5 years is nonsense.

And please, don’t put Schiano and Pike together right now. Schianos program is VERY healthy.

Schiano is a myth at this point in time. 7-6 is not a standard of winning, but maybe your standards are different than mine. We have no wins against a ranked opponent in Schiano 2.0.

If RU goes 5-7 the next 2 seasons in football (not impossible if you look at the schedule), are we going to panic??

I follow football and hoops recruiting very closely....in football, .we have just 2 signed portal additions from Power 4 programs, which is 17th out of 18 B1G teams who also signed kids from Power programs...... If that is healthy, what do you call the other 17 teams in our conference?? LMAO.....

In terms of Pike, I am looking at the current roster today.....I'm not in the land of make-believe......there's 2 solid frosh in 2024 and potentially another 2 to 3 frosh in 2025 for hoops. Once I see the 2026 HS commits for Pike, then we can discuss what will happen next. If we add another 2 to 3 Top 150 kids in 2026 HS recruiting, Pike will finish this decade as RUs coach......that would be "healthy"......

 

[fluoxetine]

I don’t like Pike and never have, I find him to be disingenuous with the fan base

lol you're still mad that he said the 21-22 team was good preseason aren't you

 

[fluoxetine]

Somehow we're talking about Schiano again...

 

[The RUT]

Somehow we're talking about Schiano again...

You’re right - not going to even respond. Let the record show I didn’t bring him up 😂

 

[cm_13]

Somehow we're talking about Schiano again...

This site should probably spin up a separate board for football so that this doesn’t keep happening.

 

[runner3283]

We’re not eating buyouts for a while. Pike has 2 seasons to right the ship - but more likely one or he’ll be a lame duck in year 2.

I love the guy and hope he fixes it.

Why 2 years? He’s had, what is it 9 years and only 1 tourney win. That’s not an automatic renewal in my opinion. He should be on the hit seat now!

 

[RAC93]

On the podcast today, Mike Broadbent stated that in his last 60 games against top 200 Bart Torvik rated teams, Pike is 18-42…..think about that…..that is a really bad trend. This ship is sinking and may have already sunk to the bottom.

 

[bac2therac]

On the podcast today, Mike Broadbent stated that in his last 60 games against top 200 Bart Torvik rated teams, Pike is 18-42…..think about that…..that is a really bad trend. This ship is sinking and may have already sunk to the bottom.

That's miserable

 

[fluoxetine]

On the podcast today, Mike Broadbent stated that in his last 60 games against top 200 Bart Torvik rated teams, Pike is 18-42…..think about that…..that is a really bad trend. This ship is sinking and may have already sunk to the bottom.

That isn't correct. I looked at the last two seasons and we were a combined 20-33 against such teams. Not good, but makes 18-42 impossible.

 

[fluoxetine]

That's miserable

Good think it's fake. Not that it will stop people..

 

[RobotHunter]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

"The answer is TALENT and not coaching". You mean talent like 2 top 5 lottery NBA picks?

 

[fluoxetine]

"The answer is TALENT and not coaching". You mean talent like 2 top 5 lottery NBA picks?

No.

Talent is really the wrong word. The answer is ability and not coaching. Harper was maybe the 30th best player in the country (to be fair probably better when healthy, that is a season-long rating) and Bailey was maybe ~#150. And this is before you account for their (bad) defense. They are top five prospects, not top five players.

They weren't what was wrong with the team but they are also not enough to carry a mediocre roster.

 

[ru66]

he is not getting 4 years.....2 years to do something

You really know little about what's going on at RU so don't espouse your thoughts as if they were meaningful.

 

[rubs]

Pike's history is horrible. If RU was serious about athletics he would be gone yesterday. The obvious answer RU is not a player and will accept mediocracy. It is what it is!

 

[Shelby65]

That isn't correct. I looked at the last two seasons and we were a combined 20-33 against such teams. Not good, but makes 18-42 impossible.

Records of those teams at tipoff ? Or Top 200 teams now ?

 

[derleider]

He’s a good man no doubt… he tried to smile and say how good we will be, how excited he is for the future, how proud he is, tough league, more revenue sharing coming, etc, but as time is

He’s a good man no doubt… he tried to smile and say how good we will be, how excited he is the future, how proud he is, tough league, more rnue sharing coming, etc, but as time is going by, he and program are taking incoming from d it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better.

It’s damage control that really can’t be “controlled”. Deserving or not, which mostly it is, it’s going to be long offseason, and I think he’s going to have a tough time getting top transfers. I truly hope I’m wrong.

Did he lose the freshmen? Grant? Dortch? If they go, I feel the indictment will be too strong, and this could be a make or break season. Especially with new President and AD.

Dude is a dead man walking. It might take a year or even three because Rutgers admits are way too forgiving but ultimately he blew a once in a lifetime opportunity and people will notice.

At any real program he would have been gone yesterday evening.

 

[derleider]

On the podcast today, Mike Broadbent stated that in his last 60 games against top 200 Bart Torvik rated teams, Pike is 18-42…..think about that…..that is a really bad trend. This ship is sinking and may have already sunk to the bottom.

This isn't anywhere near the bottom. Think about this team and now think about it where you replace the three or four best players with a bunch of freshmen and bottom of the portal scraps.

The thing about the portal era is that you can build up quickly but when things go bad they go real bad real quick.

 

[King of S]

Somehow we're talking about Schiano again...

The only person who can fire Schiano is Schiano himself. The new AD will have no control over Greg. We all know that.

 

[fluoxetine]

Records of those teams at tipoff ? Or Top 200 teams now ?

Now. And while I recognize that in theory could be the reason, that would require me to believe that the guy who gave that stat either:
(a) Has been keeping track of this statistic the whole time or
(b) Went back and looked at the ranking history for each game date to figure out which teams were top 200 on gameday.

I find that rather unlikely; I think he's just wrong. FWIW when I counted it was 22-38 which isn't exactly good either although the starting point (last 60, why 60?) is cherry picked also.

 

[fluoxetine]

Er, to clarifiy, by "now" I mean "now" for this season and the end of season rankings from the other seasons.

 

[Shelby65]

Now. And while I recognize that in theory could be the reason, that would require me to believe that the guy who gave that stat either:
(a) Has been keeping track of this statistic the whole time or
(b) Went back and looked at the ranking history for each game date to figure out which teams were top 200 on gameday.

I find that rather unlikely; I think he's just wrong. FWIW when I counted it was 22-38 which isn't exactly good either although the starting point (last 60, why 60?) is cherry picked also.

Floozy logic p <.05

 

[RexMantlepiece]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

Hawk agree with this sentiment of money on players that fit his system rather than reset with a new coach at this time but I definitely don’t think Pike has 4 more years if things turn worse next year in that scenario maybe he gets two more years max.

 

[AshCatchEm]

For the 100th time, there is no chance Schiano or Pike are not coaching at RU for at least the next 4 seasons. His contract runs through 2031.

If a new coach was hired after next year, that coach is only getting a 5 year contract. RU is not paying 2 contracts running for the same 5 years.

2026-27
2027-28
2028-29
2029-30
2030-31

these are the years and money wasted by firing Pike if there's no "miracle of what exactly " for 2025-26?? That's 12 to 15M burned.....

Add another 12 to 15M for the new coach....30M for the same 5 years??

You spend that 30M over the next 5 years on PLAYERS, not wasting money on getting a coach, who "might be" better than Pike. So RU wins one more game each season with the same level of talent and a different coach or slightly better coach.

The answer is TALENT and not coaching. Having subpar players is on the DONORS (aka US), not Pike.

Do you think Rick Pitino would win with subpar talent.....?? He would tell you and me to don't bother trying to win, unless you pony up 7M to 8M per YEAR.

If fans want to believe 2* kids beat 5* kids in B1G level football and basketball, good luck with that......

This is so off the mark. If you think pike is here for 4 more years you're delusional

 

[RUFan20231]

Pitino makes the Tournament with our talent. So might every other coach in the Big 10. There is no defense for Pike this year. The excuses early season were sickness and injuries. How about when Dylan and Ace were later healthy. If its not coaching, its recruiting, and both are on him. As soon as his buyout is cut in half he's gone. Take it to the bank.

Exactly, and why Pike should be fired and replaced with a great coach. Winning gets NIL and money in the door - said money can also help offset the buyout. Guys like Pitino win.

Every other Big 10 coach (including the fired ones) would have won 20+ games with this team and Pitino likely would have gone like 26-5.

Pike is a terrible coach. Worst in the high majors terrible.

 

[Pancho1939]

Pitino makes the Tournament with our talent. So might every other coach in the Big 10. There is no defense for Pike this year. The excuses early season were sickness and injuries. How about when Dylan and Ace were later healthy. If its not coaching, its recruiting, and both are on him. As soon as his buyout is cut in half he's gone. Take it to the bank.

Pitino doesn't start a single freshman or sophomore. and has mike repole who is on record saying they will not lose a recruit because of money.

Again, you cannot recruit without NIL. How much money have you given?

 

[Pancho1939]

Exactly, and why Pike should be fired and replaced with a great coach. Winning gets NIL and money in the door - said money can also help offset the buyout. Guys like Pitino win.

Every other Big 10 coach (including the fired ones) would have won 20+ games with this team and Pitino likely would have gone like 26-5.

Pike is a terrible coach. Worst in the high majors terrible.

silly. Pitino would never have this roster. he will not recruit freshman and their isnt enough NIL to take the job.

 

[AshCatchEm]

Pitino doesn't start a single freshman or sophomore. and has mike repole who is on record saying they will not lose a recruit because of money.

Again, you cannot recruit without NIL. How much money have you given?

You can coach without NIL. That seems to be what people are missing. People believe Martini cannot be coached to grab a single rebound by a guy like Pitino? They believe Hayes and acuff can't be given better 3 point looks with an actual offensive scheme? Talk about a beaten fanbase..where you believe this is the best you can get with coaching. Mike rice was much better than pikiell at scheming offense. And he wasn't a good HC

 

[urbanecane]

Schiano is a myth at this point in time. 7-6 is not a standard of winning, but maybe your standards are different than mine. We have no wins against a ranked opponent in Schiano 2.0.

If RU goes 5-7 the next 2 seasons in football (not impossible if you look at the schedule), are we going to panic??

I follow football and hoops recruiting very closely....in football, .we have just 2 signed portal additions from Power 4 programs, which is 17th out of 18 B1G teams who also signed kids from Power programs...... If that is healthy, what do you call the other 17 teams in our conference?? LMAO.....

In terms of Pike, I am looking at the current roster today.....I'm not in the land of make-believe......there's 2 solid frosh in 2024 and potentially another 2 to 3 frosh in 2025 for hoops. Once I see the 2026 HS commits for Pike, then we can discuss what will happen next. If we add another 2 to 3 Top 150 kids in 2026 HS recruiting, Pike will finish this decade as RUs coach......that would be "healthy"......

Way to nitpick the 2 portal players from G5 that were named top 100 players in the country lol.