Ruben brown-10 pro bowls. Larry Fitzgerlad-9 pro bowls. Darrelle Revis 7 pro bowls. Lesean mccoy-3pro bowls. Aaron Donald 1 pro bowl-but the way he looks he could be one of the best linemen all time. Thanks and good day.
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fair point.
alright...i guess it's not that big of deal to lose out 90% of the players w/mutual PSU offers........Narduzzi will find his hidden gems (and wash out transfers) and turn them into gold, I suppose
we'll see how Pitt does next year.......curious to see how the Narduzzi regime will turn out. being in the ACC Coastal sure does help matters.
you guys need to show up to those games though....i mean, would you stay for long if you didn't get that kind of support?......this is why Pitt got passed over in the bowl selection hierarchy and got stuck with the Military Bowl, Monday at 2:30pm.......just sayin
i know 1 game that'll be sold out next year:)
During the last 7 years there has been a different offensive coordinator at Rutgers.Perhaps,that had a lot to do with the inconsistent offensive performances.
Actually, it means a lot. One is a champion. The other isn't.[/QUOTE]
so by your logic, Ash would be a better hire than Gary Patterson right? And so would any other assistant from OSU or FSU?
The assistants from those schools (even the grad assistants) would be better hires than Dabo Swinney, Chip Kelly, or Jim Harbaugh right?
Didn't Todd Graham and Paul Chryst leave after fairly short stints (less than 4 years)? Why wouldn't Narduzzi also consider it for a job he really wants? Not saying Rutgers is that job, but if there was even the remote chance he was peeking around after just one season (with success, got to give him that) than I don't expect his tenure at Pitt to last longer than Chryst's. I'm willing to bet he eventually succeeds Dantonio at MSU and with Dantonio's previous health issues that could be sooner rather than later.
Also, I'm happy we got Ash because I'm happy with the OC he hired, more importantly, the TYPE offense he is going to want to run at Rutgers. I wanted to go away from the pro set for the past 5 years or so and now we finally will. So both schools are in a good spot. No reason to measure d#cks at this point.
Also, I'm happy we got Ash because I'm happy with the OC he hired, more importantly, the TYPE offense he is going to want to run at Rutgers. I wanted to go away from the pro set for the past 5 years or so and now we finally will. So both schools are in a good spot. No reason to measure d#cks at this point.
Do Pitt fans realize 1976 was 40 years ago? Along with Syracuse, they love to attach ancient history to the present day program and then talk about how great they are.
I had to look up the ACC Coastal to find out who the phuck is even in it.
Again, until you actually can beat a Big Ten team, maybe don't try to brag about your conference.
nah, just better than narduzzi. weren't we talking about RU and pitt?
let's compare records for first year in conference.
RU: 3-5 big 10
pitt: 3-5 acc
which was the better conference? the one that won the national championship?
I'm not bragging about my conference, just laughing at yours. Pitt's banner year led to the replacement of four coaches in your division.
Joe knew but did not want to tell anyone until Monday so as to not ruin anyones weekend. I guess he did not care about the actual victims!
Mediocracy with Horor
Mediocracy with Horor
This is like those dopey Syracuse fans who, when faced with their modern day mediocrity wanna give everyone a history lesson about " the good ole days" of Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison, Larry Czonka, Ernie Davis , and Jim Brown.
Pay attention. Since 2005 we've won more games than Pitt. We've even won more game when we were playing a team named Pitt. We've also put way more guys in the NFL than Pitt in recent years. None of this means that we're vastly superior to the Panthers. It just means that when a Pitt visitor wants to come here and talk like they're superior it's kinda funny.
so by your logic, Ash would be a better hire than Gary Patterson right? And so would any other assistant from OSU or FSU?
The assistants from those schools (even the grad assistants) would be better hires than Dabo Swinney, Chip Kelly, or Jim Harbaugh right?[/QUOTE]
We will see how good of a hire Ash is over the next few seasons, just like Narduzzi, which is what we are talking about. Ash has a national championship ring. Narduzzi is trying to get one.
It matters, whether you say it doesn't or not.
you can compare whatever you want. bottom line: RU is in a better conference, just hired a coach that beat yours on the way to winning a national champsionship, hired an innovative OC -- yours just left, is the flagship state U, has an on campus stadium, was the better team for the duration of the time they spent in the same conference. nobody cares about the acc coastal or peninsular or whatever division you're in. funny that this thread has more posts from pitt fans than from RU fans... keep it up. we literally couldn't care less. pitt doesn't even qualify as an afterthought.
we are well aware that RU has not been competitive in the big 10, but the flood error has finally ended. the future is bright -- much brighter than it is for the same pitt and syracuse folks who have nothing but ancient history to fall back on.
Pitt was 8-4 this year without the acc 2014 player of the year. We lose 7 players total off the entire two deep. Pitt returns more players next year than any other team in the country. To suggest Pitt isn't trending upward would be ridiculous.
Again, if Pitt is that great, why do you feel the need to come here and tell us..? Wouldn't it be obvious?
I doubt FSU fans go to your board to talk about their attendance, titles, Heisman winners, etc...
I doubt FSU fans go to your board to talk about their attendance, titles, Heisman winners, etc...
I came here because Pitt just stole 2 recruits from you. That is the only reason.
If you believe that, you are very, very naive. Narduzzi is from Youngstown, OH, about an hour drive from Pittsburgh. He personally told me that he has come 'home'. He also said that this was the job he had waited for (he passed up several other opportunities previously). He will stay at Pitt unless a tremendous new opportunity that also suits his family comes about, and it certainly isn't Rutgers. It is hard to believe that you guys bought into that. Good luck to Rutgers in the B1G.
4 pages for an RU-PITT fight? Who cares? We're both extremely mediocre football programs with solid potential. Pitt appears to have taken a step in the right direction with Narduzzi. Hopefully we can get similar results next year with Ash.
Wow, your coaching staff was able to take some players from us in a down year in the middle of a coaching change. That's what you're beating your chest about? Talk about a low bar for achievement...
This is a thread that can go on and on with insults back and forth.. I will only say that pitt is trending up and RU has been trending down.. With new coach hopefully comes new energy for RU. The B1G east is a tough league and RU will at least initially be battling for fifth place with Maryland. What team in front of you does RU think they will be better than in five years? Bragging about being in a good conference is great but what is there to brag about being fifth in your division? Seems weird.. RU would have been better positioned in the ACC.. for now.. With current population shifts and the new coaches in the ACC its only a matter of time until the coastal is a very difficult division.. okay carry on ...
What leverage? RU was paying Flood 1.25 million a year. Ash is signed for 2. Narduzzi signed with Pitt last year for 2 and now pulls in over 3.
The only leverage being applied here was by RU during salary negotiations with Ash. They needed to come up with some other names to keep Ash in check. Narduzzi was perfect since he's a the most recent example (and the only one among the 2014 hires) coming from DC at a top B1G program. What do you know... salaries match...
I have a super-secret, well-connected source on the Pantherlair pay board who told me every detail of these negotiations. If any of you want to pony up the monthly fee you can easily put all of your confusion to rest. </snark>
Not to keep this thread going, but I must respond to this because the Notre Dame game throws things completely out of whack. Here's the game breakdown for 2015:
Pittsburgh Rutgers
Notre Dame 68,400 Ohio State 53,111
Youngstown State 49,969 Michigan State 50,373
Virginia 45,237 Norfolk State 47,453
North Carolina 43,049 Washington State 46,536
Louisville 42,119 Kansas 46,136
Miami 40,126 Nebraska 45,606
Maryland 44,846
Notre Dame heavily skews any average number. Take that out and Rutgers games are better attended even in a down year. The fact that Youngstown State has a higher attendance figure then when Pitt is ranked #23 and plays a night game against a 6-1 UNC team tells the story - nearby Youngstown brought 5,000 fans.
Take a look at 2014 without ND on the home schedule:
Pittsburgh Rutgers
Iowa 48,895 Penn State 53,774
Ga Tech 44,734 Michigan 53,327
Va Tech 43,125 Wisconsin 52,797
Delaware 40,549 Tulane 48,361
Akron 40,059 Howard 48,040
Duke 39,923 Indiana 47,492
Syracuse 32,549
Rutgers lowest-attended game out-drew all Pitt home games except for Iowa, and the game against "rival" Syracuse only drew 32,549. (BTW it only drew 29k in the Carrier Dome this year)
What leverage? RU was paying Flood 1.25 million a year. Ash is signed for 2. Narduzzi signed with Pitt last year for 2 and now pulls in over 3.
The only leverage being applied here was by RU during salary negotiations with Ash. They needed to come up with some other names to keep Ash in check. Narduzzi was perfect since he's a the most recent example (and the only one among the 2014 hires) coming from DC at a top B1G program. What do you know... salaries match...
I have a super-secret, well-connected source on the Pantherlair pay board who told me every detail of these negotiations. If any of you want to pony up the monthly fee you can easily put all of your confusion to rest. </snark>
As long as we are selling "blue sky" here, let's keep this five year time horizon in mind. In the next 6-12 months we will begin to learn exactly how lucrative the new B1G TV deal is going to be. The disparity between the SEC/B1G and the ACC is going to be very real. At that point a rudimentary understanding of Game Theory will let you know what happens next.
We're pretty content sitting where we are, 5th place or otherwise. The B1G was the move for the next 100 years.
This is accurate. I only came here initially to see if RU fans were at all worried about the recruits they lost. The verdict seems to be Morgan - No, Campbell - Yes. Just trying to figure out what Pitt picked up.
There's no denying Pitt's mediocrity in recent years. And it's a travesty that we can't do a better job filling our stadium on game day. Hopefully that changes as Narduzzi continues to build things.
I'm not interested in taking a swipes at the Rutgers program. You all know where you stand. Pitt fans should be able to sympathize.
But if you can't see this Rutgers-Narduzzi stuff for the nonsense that it is, then I'm gonna have to troll a just a bit.
Pitt coaches leave all the time for bigger things. That's not crazy talk.
Crazy talk is saying Rutgers is a bigger thing.
Until roughly a week ago, you were barely paying your head coach 60% of what Pitt pays ours. Rutgers is not a bigger thing. But tell yourself that it is if that's how you get through your day.
Meanwhile in Columbus
Ohio State on lookout again for quarterback recruit
Their guy flipped to Oregon. Meanwhile they think they can flip Haskins from the Terps. Just in case they are talking to a three star from Tenn.
Ohio State on lookout again for quarterback recruit
Their guy flipped to Oregon. Meanwhile they think they can flip Haskins from the Terps. Just in case they are talking to a three star from Tenn.
These Pitt guys are so bitter. It really chaps their buttocks that their coach not only wanted out, but even worse approached us. We chose Ash, but still respect PN. He'll leave Pitt next year if they have a good season.
Not bitter at all. Have nothing against Rutgers, wish them well in the Big 10. But, it is absurd, and naive, a better word, that you actually think Narduzzi wanted to come to Rutgers. If you believe it, it is only because of your love for Rutgers. As I said in an earlier reply, if Narduzzi leaves Pitt, it will be for a high-profile, big paying job, just like most other coaches look for. Not being critical, but that job would not be Rutgers.
UPitt: of the guys we took in 2010, one was a talented QB - a position of grave need at the time. Plus he was from a local powerhouse program.
We didn't need to go to your board to figure out who he was -- he was the type of homegrown talent we needed to keep in-state.
We didn't need to go to your board to figure out who he was -- he was the type of homegrown talent we needed to keep in-state.
Just quietly thank the heavens that Rutgers chose Ash instead of taking Narduzzi, as he wanted. That is as good as this is going to get for you.
It's not true. But if it were, that would be great for Pitt. And very foolish of RU.
Is this your best effort to troll back?
