Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

[rutgersal]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

 

[bac2therac]

Oh you forget to mention someone is paying $4 million combined for 2 top 5 nba picks to play here

 

[rutgersal]

Oh you forget to mention someone is paying $4 million combined for 2 top 5 nba picks to play here

See paragraph 5. Outside the $4 Million, which happened by some act of God, what did we have? Obviously not a lot.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

To sell your argument, the figures should be completely transparent. They are nothing of the sort. Shrouded in mystery.

 

[Rhuarc]

Oh you forget to mention someone is paying $4 million combined for 2 top 5 nba picks to play here

If we could spread 4 million across 8 players, we'd be a hell of a lot better team. The question is, will that money be there annually? I'm guessing it's a one time deal.

 

[RocktheRac]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

WTF. How are teachers exempt???? What about 85% of workers. Lol

 

[ancienthooper]

Oh you forget to mention someone is paying $4 million combined for 2 top 5 nba picks to play here

He of the long-winded post-game narratives has a little problem with reading comprehension.

 

[King of S]

To sell your argument, the figures should be completely transparent. They are nothing of the sort. Shrouded in mystery.

Exactly! Well said.

 

[Lawboy]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

Donated a 4 figure amount last year and will do it again this year for 2026. If others don’t , I’m done because it’s like lighting a match to money.

 

[mikeyo]

No legitimate shot blocker in the low post. That's our biggest problem

 

[Lawboy]

WTF. How are teachers exempt???? What about 85% of workers. Lol

Fanatics hope our two five stars sign a deal with them after the season is over per others in the know.

 

[RUChoppin]

Apparently the majority of Americans (56%, per bankrate's latest survey) aren't able cover a $1K emergency expense, and only a fifth (21%, from a 2023 survey) have more than $5K in savings.

The average fan is not going to be able to do much to move the needle on NIL.

 

[kt124]

lack of NIL is a convenient excuse. mods have told us we’re lower-middle of the pack for power conferences from an NIL perspective. we were also told that the money was there for malique ewin and pike wouldn’t do it out of principle. having less to spend is not as big of an issue as how we’ve spent what we do have

 

[mikeyo]

Apparently the majority of Americans (56%, per bankrate's latest survey) aren't able cover a $1K emergency dispense, and only a fifth (21%, from a 2023 survey) have more than $5K in savings.

The average fan is not going to be able to do much to move the needle on NIL.

Yep. And I've seen some polls that say 70% can't come up with a grand if they had to

 

[bac2therac]

See paragraph 5. Outside the $4 Million, which happened by some act of God, what did we have? Obviously not a lot.

Well most schools dont have some entity paying $4 million for 2 players

 

[bac2therac]

To sell your argument, the figures should be completely transparent. They are nothing of the sort. Shrouded in mystery.

Absolutely

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

Where is PIKE going out on a limb and meeting donors face to face (esp ones with money)? Schiano goes out and builds relationships. Pike hasn’t. It was absolutely criminal that with all the time he knew Harper and Ace were coming that he couldn’t get enough money for a competent surrounding cast.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

Also, Al, what competent portal guy is coming after this cluster**** of a year?

 

[darkcheck]

lack of NIL is a convenient excuse. mods have told us we’re lower-middle of the pack for power conferences from an NIL perspective. we were also told that the money was there for malique ewin and pike wouldn’t do it out of principle. having less to spend is not as big of an issue as how we’ve spent what we do have

Yes the Ewin thing drives me crazy, we spent what he asked for additionally on some other portal get that isn’t P5 caliber. If we’re low middle that means there’s many other low middle and high lower making much better choices on what players they spend their money in. It’s the lack of an eye for talent and roster construction.

 

[darkcheck]

Another thought, there were 17,000 plus at msg yesterday. Many love their Knights. But success also generates donations. Had they built on the 2019-2021 success I feel NIL wouldn’t really be a problem. Instead poor recruiting, poor player development and retention, all but ignoring offensive talent and schemes until this year and now we’ve completed the bell curve of basement-good-basement in about 4-5 year increments.

 

[RUskoolie]

Lack of NIL does not help but Pike would really benefit from a GM in this new world. He needs to figure it out in the next 4-8 weeks or he is digging his own grave because 25-26 will be more of the same.

 

[darkcheck]

Lack of NIL does not help but Pike would really benefit from a GM in this new world. He needs to figure it out in the next 4-8 weeks or he is digging his own grave because 25-26 will be more of the same.

A GM is needed, but how is the power structure? If the GM just counts Pennies and Pike still says he wants to over pay for low major transfers that’s no help. There has to be some check on Pikes lack of eye for talent lately.

 

[rume]

A GM is needed, but how is the power structure? If the GM just counts Pennies and Pike still says he wants to over pay for low major transfers that’s no help. There has to be some check on Pikes lack of eye for talent lately.

If there is not marked improvement next year and Pike opts to stay, I think the new AD will start to exert control over the program. This will likely be in the form of an AD selected GM.

 

[LotusAggressor]

If RU had a fieldhouse, the team would have an efficient half court offense and would be able to make layups. On a serious note, the reason for the disappointing season is poor fundamentals at both ends and an inability to utilize the strengths of the players on the roster.

 

[RexMantlepiece]

Where is PIKE going out on a limb and meeting donors face to face (esp ones with money)? Schiano goes out and builds relationships. Pike hasn’t. It was absolutely criminal that with all the time he knew Harper and Ace were coming that he couldn’t get enough money for a competent surrounding cast.

Add this one to your long list of uninformed threads. Again and admittedly I only know a small sample of true money folks but I can promise you they all know Pike personally.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Add thiof uninformed threads. Again and admittedly I only know a small sample of true money folks but I can promise you they all know Pike personally.

Obviously he hasn't done a good enough job convincing them to donate the big bucks he really needed this year. Or expanded his network, as Greg did. Otherwise we wouldn't be in this CF.

 

[KK1827]

Apparently the majority of Americans (56%, per bankrate's latest survey) aren't able cover a $1K emergency expense, and only a fifth (21%, from a 2023 survey) have more than $5K in savings.

The average fan is not going to be able to do much to move the needle on NIL.

The NIL race isnt being won or lost by how much your fan collective raises but rather how many whales you can get committed to your program to stroke 7-figure checks

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Another thought, there were 17,000 plus at msg yesterday. Many love their Knights. But success also generates donations. Had they built on the 2019-2021 success I feel NIL wouldn’t really be a problem. Instead poor recruiting, poor player development and retention, all but ignoring offensive talent and schemes until this year and now we’ve completed the bell curve of basement-good-basement in about 4-5 year increments.

This times a million in a nutshell. We didn't build on the success. Instead we got Reiber, Palmquist, Jaden Jones, Jalen Miller, Austin Williams, Noah Fernandes . . . and so forth.

 

[Section114]

3.5mm households in NJ. ADD a RU NIL tax of $20 per household. $7mm, problem solved.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

The NIL race isnt being won or lost by how much your fan collective raises but rather how many whales you can get committed to your program to stroke 7-figure checks

Thank you. While I appreciate what the fan collectives try to do, it's the "whales" that really mean something. There's no excuse as to why - being in the NYC metro area - we can't find more of these type of folks.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Well most schools dont have some entity paying $4 million for 2 players

Those kids would have commanded that money regardless of school.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Lou and Kyk in agreement. Lol. Two great minds.

 

[RUskoolie]

The NIL race isnt being won or lost by how much your fan collective raises but rather how many whales you can get committed to your program to stroke 7-figure checks

I hate this argument as to why money cannot get raised. The $100 donors are just as important. They grow into bigger donors in the future.

 

[KK1827]

I hate this argument as to why money cannot get raised. The $100 donors are just as important. They grow into bigger donors in the future.

Look at the teams with the most success NIL wise. Big check strokers are the key

 

[The RUT]

Transparency is key.

If the fan base was asked to donate towards NIL specifically for a big man, we would have raised the money for it.

This NIL operating in the shadows nonsense is horrible.

 

[RUskoolie]

Look at the teams with the most success NIL wise. Big check strokers are the key

Sure, I am willing to bet those schools have a much wider donor pool as well, with infrastructure already in place and likely scholarships endowed. That helps them focus on newer initiatives like NIL.

A lot of schools only need to worry about 1 of those. We are worrying about 3. Thats why we need everyone, not just Jeff Towers.

 

[ClassOf02]

After every loss it’s the same BS. Pike this, Pike that, when accountability needs to start by looking in the mirror. We are the biggest reason Pikes roster is inadequate because we haven’t done enough to support a Championship Caliber program.

Poor NIL is the 800 lb gorilla that no one wants to acknowledge, because then we would need to take accountability. We’re either ponying up or not ponying up. By looking at our roster, we can reasonably conclude that not enough was done.

If we had Cliff and a few more quality kids, we’d be looking forward to dancing. But we didn’t have the support, so we recruited whomever we could.

Now I understand why Danny Hurley took the UConn job and turned down the Rutgers job. Because unlike at UConn, he would never get the support to win big at Rutgers. Two National Championships later, and he no doubt made the right decision.

Now it’s on us to provide the support so Rutgers can realize its greatest potential. It should have happened this year, because by some act of God, we wound up with two lottery picks. Thank you to whomever it was that provided that support.

The rest of us didn’t do enough, and sadly I fall into that group because already I do what I can for football. Going forward, this will change.

We need 1,000 people donating $2,000 for Basketball NIL. I’ve got to believe that we have 1,000 fans capable of doing so, especially after seeing yesterday’s game at MSG. This provides us with a $2M warchest, which can be used to get quality recruits. Recruiting lower division kids, and hoping their ability will scale to this level, simply is not a path to success. Football also has to choose this path, due to lack of NIL resources, so they have no other choice. Our experience shows, that not all transfers like this will be able to contribute. So we have to improve our odds of recruiting contributors by increasing our financial support.

If you’re a teacher, retiree, or someone struggling to get by, you are obviously not expected to give. Those of us who are well off, need to absorb this burden.

This does not absolve Pikes recruiting and development. But at the same time, I feel we haven’t provided Pike with the support to be successful and think he will be successful with the right support.

So it’s time to pony up, or live with the mediocre consequences. Transfer recruiting will probably kick into high gear in April. We need to give Pike the support he needs to land quality transfers, to turn this thing around.

Go RU!

Hang on a sec, we have the basketball equivalent of one of the best “fieldhouses“ in the country. Shouldn’t that be bringing in the talent?

 

[RUBlackout]

Transparency is key.

If the fan base was asked to donate towards NIL specifically for a big man, we would have raised the money for it.

This NIL operating in the shadows nonsense is horrible.

I grew with this. Never know what a rabid fanbase will do to collect funds for something specific.

I know that I was enticed to donate a scholarship and understood what the money was going to be used for and how it would help. I even did it for a good cause to name it for my wife, breast cancer, and chose women’s soccer as recipient. Has more meaning that way.

dumping funds for NIL not knowing where the money goes specifically is a crapshoot. It’s why every school relies on the mega donors bc they are specific with their ask. I need $Xmm for arch manning as our quarterback. Then they syndicate funds.

No one here knows specifically how much additional money to have kept cliff(he was def getting some NIL offered)

 

[toby83]

Thought I read in other thread there was extra 100mil in $75 applications that are piling up. Boom halfway there.

 

[bac2therac]

Those kids would have commanded that money regardless of school.

How many other schools are getting a seperate collective paying $4 million for 2 players...yet at Rutgers its woe is me we had no money