They will never be transparent for competitive reasons. That hasn’t stopped UCONN, St John’s, and others from fully funding their NIL warchest. It’s understandable not to be able to compete with Ohio State and Penn State and similar programs in Football. There’s no excuses for basketball. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t win Championships in Basketball. The only thing we’re lacking is financial support.
Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season
- Thread starter rutgersal
- Start date
You’re right bac. You figured it out. We have great nil money.
You think the rac is some great arena that brings in talent. Hahahahahahahhahahaha.
nj.com reported close to 7 figures. We should have been able to give him close to 7 figures.
Cliff Omoruyi left Rutgers for a payday just as the program arrived. He has no regrets. | Politi
Cliff Omoruyi was a fan favorite at Rutgers, but in the new landscape of college basketball, he left for greener pastures in Alabama.
The APC dude, not the RAC. You don’t play football games in a field house, just like you don’t play basketball games in the APC.
We couldn’t keep Cliff Paul or cam but we’re good with nil. No worries. The next coach will have a huge war chest. Can’t make this stuff up.nj.com reported close to 7 figures. We should have been able to give him close to 7 figures.
Cliff Omoruyi left Rutgers for a payday just as the program arrived. He has no regrets. | Politi
Cliff Omoruyi was a fan favorite at Rutgers, but in the new landscape of college basketball, he left for greener pastures in Alabama.www.nj.com
Fair. Good job. If others don’t, can’t blame you.
People would rather run their mouth than support the program. So many man hours are wasted on mediocre sports teams. If everyone gave what they could, we’d actually have something worthwhile to discuss.
You said we have the basketball equivalent of one of the great field houses. Allen field house. - ever hear of it?
are you trying to troll
ru got a gift of 2 superstars worth close to 4 million that they didnt even have to pay...to not be able to come up with a supporting cast and find money for it is malfeasance by the AD and the coaching staff
We have to deal with the way things are, not the way we want them to be. The financials are not transparent, so we either give the coach the resources to succeed, or we live with what could have been. UConn provides the support their coach needs. We need to as well.
Not at all. You seem to be arguing that we have a good nil situation relative to our peers. Are you saying we did for one year because of outside money?
Miami fans don’t wait for the AD or coaching staff. They stroke the check, for Men’s and Women’s basketball. UConn fans do the same. This is the way the game is played these days.
The people that donate the least cry the loudest
If what youre arguing is true its an even bigger indictment of pike.
Youre claiming that he got gifted 2 top 5 nba draft picks without having to even pay them and was so incompetent at fundraising that he couldnt even scrap together a couple bucks to fill out the roster?
Our facility and home court certainly doesnt hurt us. There aint a kid in america saying theyre not choosing rutgers because of their practice facility or home arena. They are assets, not liabilities
It’s not an advantage at all. Compared to your favorite team seton hall it’s not even great. Compared to our peers the apc is probably fine. An asset relatively no way in hell the gym? It’s a dump. People on this board think the rac is some great place. It’s not. It’s a dump. Our environment isn’t great. It’s shitty.
You might wanna re-read your post that I quoted where you say,
“You seem to be arguing that we have a good nil situation relative to our peers. Are you saying we did for one year because of outside money?”
Aka you are claiming our NIL came from outside money to land dylan and ace (fanatics) which would therefore imply pike couldnt raise the necessary funds to fill out the roster. Youre in a pickle here. Youre caught with your own words
Youre out of your mind lol. The APC is consensus a top 10 facility in america. The RAC is consensus a top 10 home court in america.
The apc and rac in no way hurt us in recruiting
I was asking a question not making a statement. Again are you drunk?
The rac is not even a top 50 home court basketball facility. It’s a dump. Is it a home court advantage. Sure because it’s a dump. Is it a place where someone comes in and says wow this place is nice I want to play here. Lolololol.
we dont...but our peers are not getting 4 million dollar players dropped into their lap for free
pretty sad to use the no nil funds at RU argument when someone paid 4 million for 2 kids to come here...if only other schools had that
RU hoops also was getting 1 million to disperse to players from vegas with the potential to earn more...did pike sell that or not..apparently not
...no, remember, no matter what it's our/the everyday fan's fault, because we all know the everyday fans of programs like Miami donate 5 figures a year minimum even though their football games always seem half-empty and they've been dead-last in the ACC for basketball attendance over the last 4-5 years...
Joe P.
Last edited:
In other words before even raising money from potential donors pike started with $5mm. $4mm for ace and dylan and $1mm from vegas. Anyone defending pike here is bananas
The "dropped in their lap for free" is really an oversimplification. We got Bailey and Harper to commit to Rutgers, but they were such high profile players that NIL was going to follow them wherever they went. It wasn't that the players were dropped in our lap - we had to recruit the players and get them to commit - it was just that the NIL to secure them was already mostly baked into the deal (they'd have gotten it pretty much wherever they went).
So the NIL for those players was largely bonus - which means that the NIL we had for the rest of the team was what Rutgers itself could pull for non-feature players. It wouldn't have been enough to keep Omoruyi. It was used to assemble a supporting cast from the portal, but clearly there were misjudgements made on how well that cast would perform.
If we got two other players not named Bailey/Harper, we wouldn't have pulled the $4M. We were able to secure their commitment, so money followed along with them. We do not have some innate ability to pull NIL funds for roleplayers.
what i am saying is our peers do not have someone paying $4 million for 2 players...its not rutgers paying it. Northwestern or even Illinois isnt paying 4 million for 2 players
Rutgers had an incredible advantage situation vs our peers, it should not have that difficult to come up with a supporting cast and to spread some money out. We pissed away any advantage
exactly, I do not know why posters are having such trouble understanding this point. is the starting 5 for Wisconsin getting $5 million total let alone the entire team
by the way for those who do believe the NIL is the end all be all....Arkansas under Calipari reportedly spent $5 million and right now at 12-8 are tracking to the NIT or Fox post season tourney with a record of 1-7 vs Q1 and 2-8 overall vs Q1/2
First off, Rutgers NIL situation is fine. Is it ideal? No. Does it compare to a program like UNC hiring BB and saying they're going to give him a 20 mill budget? No, but Rutgers doesn't need to be at that level to make a freaking NCAA tournament or a bowl game.
This whole NIL thing is complete and utter nonsense of an excuse. We are 10-10 because we are a bad team, our stars are young and haven't learned how to win at this level yet, and our coaching staff hasn't figured out a way to effectively get everything to gel.
Want to say RU could use more NIL? Sure, who couldn't? You think Ohio State is turning away more NIL? No.
Just stop with this narrative that it's the end all be all, because it's NOT. Rutgers Basketball for YEARS has struggled with lesser OOC opponents even though we have a higher NIL budget than them. Even before NIL we struggled with it. This year hasn't been the exception with this program under Pike, it's been the rule.
Since you mentioned UConn, do you think Hurley with this exact same schedule and roster at RU would be 10-10? Chances are no, and extend that same question out to all the coaches in the B1G. I mean imagine what Hoiberg would do with Ace/Dylan. That's the issue I have.
Last edited:
$20 Million? Outside this one time Act of God, I don’t even think we have $1 Million, let alone the needed $2 million for BB. Our NIL situation is not fine, which is why football and bb have to shop in the bargain bin, unable to land even 1 quality P5 starter, outside our two draft picks. UConn, two years ago, stole arguably our best player for a pitance, and won a National Championship with him.
Hurley wouldn’t touch this job with a 100 foot pole. Urban Meyer wouldn’t touch the football job with a 100 foot pole. Guess what? That is a big problem.
NIL is a big way the game is played these days. Freakin UConn has adequate NIL support. We don’t.
So people are either going to support, or make excuses.
