Their defensive ratings year over year?
The teams defense rating year over year?
Do you believe watching they are better this year then last year defensively?
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The teams defense rating year over year?
Do you believe watching they are better this year then last year defensively?
I mean, by this logic both players have also gotten way, way better at offense.
Better? Not really. "Regressed tremendously"? Lol no.
"In what world would you allow Loyer and Smith to hit 7-8 uncontested 3’s with no one and the same zip code on almost all of Loyer ‘s threes."
Exactly! In what world do you not go down the bench to the walk-ons until you find someone willing to go all out and be in Loyer's and Smith's face. I get it that there is no McConnell on the team, but surely, there is a 30-40% McConnell on the team who could have made a difference.
Way way?
Really? there offense numbers year over year will be less then 5% change and that’s with 2 guys on the floor being doubled consistently leaving them wide open. They are taking open shots with no one paying any attention to them so it makes sense with the slight uptick in their offensive numbers.
Watch that come to a crashing halt next year when Ace and Dylan are gone and teams actually try and defend them as opposed to leaving them wide open like this year.
So not regressed tremendously on D??
For everyone’s knowledge what is Ru defensive ratings last year ? What are they this year? Curious since you objectively feel they have not regressed tremendously
Defense
I see 8th last year
Currently 267 th this year.
Looks and feels like a tremendous gap. But hey your “lol No”. Might be right
You are all over the place. By the logic where you just compare the team ratings than these players must have gotten way better at offense and way worse at defense. I don't agree with this logic on either side.
Obviously the team this year is way worse on defense than last year. Why you would attribute this to the 20% of minutes coming from players that were on both teams rather than the 80% of minutes coming from different players is beyond me.
Agree with Flaxxo here. Anyone know what Reid said after the SB ? Or Mahomes ? Who cares what anyone has to say after a game ? Nobody should.
Our 3 point defense has not been good this year but last night I could not tell who was covering Loyer because no one did. At all. My question is why ? Then my next question after his first or second make , is why wasn’t it fixed. If Pike fixed that I truly believe this game is in doubt until late second half . We gave 18 threes last night for 54 points and Smith and Loyer had 45 of them.
Most games maybe Loyer gets 2 and Smith 3 so that is 15 points instead of 45 and the 30 point blowout is easily seen. Why wasn’t it taken away ? Pike needs to answer that question to this fan base. Either today or sometime
two reasons:
1) because the mentality of the almost all incoming players, portalers and frosh, is to shoot first and ask questions later. streetball. no interest in D, no heart. it's sickening to see the selfish play all year. Every Purdue player is a better passing, more team oriented player who makes others more effective. Not a single RU player does, and honestly JWill is the closest to being that but still isn't. Ace and Dylan are out there doing their own selfish, ball dominant, chuck-fest thing too.
2) high major athleticism and basketball IQ at key positions is totally lacking. As someone noted, let them all go elsewhere: Sommerville, Davis, Derkack, get lost. Even Grant and Dortch have no idea how to defend and rebound.
Not surprising. You two consistently miss the narrative. It's not about what they say. It's about being accountable and saying something. Not running and hiding
Prepare to be annoyed. The Oregon game was great except the last 5 minutes, apparently!
Yikes alot of platitudes and the 77th straight sellout thing is ridiculous
Its about winning but he's talking about so many other things that no longer matter
Its about winning but he's talking about so many other things that no longer matter
On my worst days this year, I've wondered about a scenario such as the line above : "letting the players run the team as if he was scared of the handlers coming down on him".
Could college basketball have become such a cesspool that a coach has to monitor closely what he says to the players in fear of offending some power brokers/ bag men / 'wiseguy' types? I have to admit I have never understood how Ace and, less so, Dylan even ended up at RU. I read some of the stories that the money bags for these two was not actually filled with RU NIL money at all. I don't profess to understand this...but, where DID the money come from???!!! Maybe, we don't want to know lol. Most likely my naivete is just amazing, but seasons like this make me crazy!! I need a conspiracy to blame all this on!!!!
Go RU!
Things are bad when you have fans arguing over press conferences. The reality is that Pike has no answers with regard to the press or with Xs and Os to fix what is on court. He also had no answers in the portal or in recent recruiting classes aside from the current freshman class This is why the program is in this position. Hearing him spew nonsense in a press conference is meaningless. You can’t give an explanation for Loyer and Smith hitting 7 threes apiece with little resistance and then getting pounded on the glass.
College basketball has been a cesspool for years. Well before NIL. Its just worse now given all the player empowerment trends that have come into play.
They played enough where if their D was a point blank problem in a vacuum, the team D wouldn’t have ranked 5th overall on the season.
Let’s put this another way - if frosh Lathan Somerville had absorbed 23 mpg of Cliff’s playing time, I can pretty much guarantee our team D ranking wouldn’t have finished better than all but 4 teams in D1. Nothing close to that.
Entities not named Rutgers are paying Ace/Dylan $3 million combined. You think those handlers are not lurking in the shadows
You don’t think he realizes this is on him? You think by not acknowledging that he’s hiding? You want him to say “this is on me” another time ? Why do you need to hear that ?
The basketball public knows and he knows this is an epic failure. Nothing he would say changes that, so there’s no point in him saying it any more than you need a weatherman to tell you it’s warmer in summer.
Agree completely. There’s nothing more to say. It’s not like he’s made excuses. He’s taken the blame. There’s nothing else he can do except try to rebuild next year. We may not be good but my money is on our defense being much better.
Yes. I want him to stand up there and answer questions and be accountable. I have been clear on that. Why is that so confusing to you? It's not that complicated and it's been explained already. if you don't agree, fine, move on.
But you’re still here and fully aware of engaged . You are not going anywhere. You are a true fan to the end
Better question is should we get out of the BIG? The whole point of college sports shouldn’t be about rooting for media revenue
He’s accountable. It goes without saying. Water is wet. Summer is warm. The buck stops with him. He’s said that all season long. Silly to need to hear him say it again.
Everything has already been asked and answered. Who cares? It doesn’t change anything. Either he’s going to turn things around next year or he will be on the chopping block. It’s that simple. He knows it as well as the fans. There’s nothing more to say right now.
Protect his (PAID) players...F that. This is legit the Pros now...own that shit and take accountability
Amazing that @RU72 has vanished this season after puffing up the Ivy's and the Princeton game so much.
Obviously the Coach is not getting it done in practice. Dead man walking .
Then stand up there and say everything asked has already been answered - please give me something new. Just don't run and hide. It's not about what he says. A few of you can't grasp that. It's about the optics of being accountable
The W-L record is the optics. His accountability is unquestioned. There’s nothing left for him to say.
Of all the things to be disappointed about, it’s bizarre that you would focus on the HC foregoing a few media questions following an embarrassing loss. Everyone knows the team is a horrendous disappointment. There’s no reason for him to repeat himself for the umpteenth time.
His issues go well beyond the lack of of press conferences. That's just one issue being discussed. Who said it's limited to that. Again you miss the narrative completely
i get it...you're upset about how crappy the season has been...join the club
but i mean you see nba coaches stand up there and kill their players? or do they go way out of their way to protect them? coaches want as little to do with the media as possible. they also want to protect their players. even the few coaches that do say stuff will say it about the guys that a) they are all the way done with or b) the guys who they know that saying something will motivate them.
every once in a long while you get a real reaction from a coach. pike had one when he dropped those f bombs after the michigan game. yesterday he knew his team ran into a buzzsaw...and then they broke/gave up. it happens quite often actually...he felt best course of action was to keep them away from the media. obviously you and many others disagree...
The key narrative here is that you give a crap about what Pikiell has to say.
Do you also tune in to hear what NFL coaches say to Lisa Salters after games ? If Pike never once spoke after a game nobody alive would care except you. They don’t ever say anything worth hearing.
