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[Scarlet Blind]

https://deadspin.com/a-college-basketball-insider-is-uniting-mid-majors-to-b-1826990796

Interesting read. Now 2 mid-majors, Conference USA and Sun Belt, will play round robin for the top 4 to play each other at the end of the season. It will only work with a certain amount of conference teams. I think more mid-majors will adopt a version of it before schedules get announced in August in that 11-20 range of conferences. It will be interesting how the power 6 or NCAA will respond, too.

 

[LC-88]

Good article. thx for posting. NCAA will squash it since it benefits the little guy.

 

[ecojew]

Good article. thx for posting. NCAA will squash it since it benefits the little guy.

Thanks for posting the article. It is an interesting read. I hadn't realized that the "point" earned by a conference for each NCAA tournament game a member team plays keeps earning for 6 years. As the article showed, it adds up, in the process increasing the gap between the Power 6 and the rest.

Reading this made me think of UConn's situation in the AAC, particularly its financial situation given the limited earning power of an AAC football program. If UConn isn't able to parlay its way into a P5 football conference soon, all of its sports programs will suffer.

I wasn't around during most of the past basketball season - how did the UConn men and women do?

Thanks.

 

[Rhuarc]

Thanks for posting the article. It is an interesting read. I hadn't realized that the "point" earned by a conference for each NCAA tournament game a member team plays keeps earning for 6 years. As the article showed, it adds up, in the process increasing the gap between the Power 6 and the rest.

Reading this made me think of UConn's situation in the AAC, particularly its financial situation given the limited earning power of an AAC football program. If UConn isn't able to parlay its way into a P5 football conference soon, all of its sports programs will suffer.

I wasn't around during most of the past basketball season - how did the UConn men and women do?

Thanks.

There's a reason why Uconn is fighting tooth and nail to get their former coach fired for cause. It's very similar to a small market baseball team and their inability to pay for big free agents. One screw up can kill them for a half decade, easily.

 

[Upstream]

Thanks for posting the article. It is an interesting read. I hadn't realized that the "point" earned by a conference for each NCAA tournament game a member team plays keeps earning for 6 years. As the article showed, it adds up, in the process increasing the gap between the Power 6 and the rest.

Reading this made me think of UConn's situation in the AAC, particularly its financial situation given the limited earning power of an AAC football program. If UConn isn't able to parlay its way into a P5 football conference soon, all of its sports programs will suffer.

I wasn't around during most of the past basketball season - how did the UConn men and women do?

Thanks.

Nonetheless, UConn with football in the AAC earns more in conference distributions than any Big East school, even with the higher BE payouts from the NCAA Tournament.

 

[ecojew]

Nonetheless, UConn with football in the AAC earns more in conference distributions than any Big East school, even with the higher BE payouts from the NCAA Tournament.

That's interesting. I guess it proves how football still drives the bus even outside of the Power 5 conferences.

I wonder how the BE is able to cover all of its conference costs - running the tournaments for all the non-revenue sports, funding the administrative costs, etc. - now that they no longer have the conference's share of the BCS payouts that they used to have. I keep waiting for a major dropoff in their men's bball performance now that they receive less money than previously but strangely it hasn't happened.

 

[Rhuarc]

That's interesting. I guess it proves how football still drives the bus even outside of the Power 5 conferences.

I wonder how the BE is able to cover all of its conference costs - running the tournaments for all the non-revenue sports, funding the administrative costs, etc. - now that they no longer have the conference's share of the BCS payouts that they used to have. I keep waiting for a major dropoff in their men's bball performance now that they receive less money than previously but strangely it hasn't happened.

They received significant money from the buyouts of the departing members and have been living off that for the last few years. The true money deficit starts now and going forward.

 

[BoroKnight]

Nonetheless, UConn with football in the AAC earns more in conference distributions than any Big East school, even with the higher BE payouts from the NCAA Tournament.

Perhaps, but the BE schools don't have to fund an FBS-level football program with an uncertain future, either. As much as the revenue is lower, so is the budget.

 

[BoroKnight]

https://deadspin.com/a-college-basketball-insider-is-uniting-mid-majors-to-b-1826990796

Interesting read. Now 2 mid-majors, Conference USA and Sun Belt, will play round robin for the top 4 to play each other at the end of the season. It will only work with a certain amount of conference teams. I think more mid-majors will adopt a version of it before schedules get announced in August in that 11-20 range of conferences. It will be interesting how the power 6 or NCAA will respond, too.

I see no reason for any response at all. A conference can schedule any way it wants to schedule. Why should the power conferences or the NCAA even have an opinion on it?

I'm also not so sure how well it's going to work. Sure, the SOS will go up a little, but really enough to squeeze in an at-large bid? Really? I mean, if the second-place C-USA team beats the fourth-place C-USA team in the last week of the season instead of beating the ninth-place C-USA team, how much does it really matter when they crunch all the numbers?

For fans of those conferences, it gives you better games down the stretch, which probably means higher attendance and some more attention. But an NCAA bid? I'm not so sure.

 

[statenman]

Just a few points or correction from past few posts.
1) the BE schools did not receive significant funding from departing members- that $ went to the old BE schools now in the AAC. In addition, the AAC kept the NCAA credits which was over $100M but is now dried up.
2) b-ball only schools never got any money from BCS earnings in the old BE which made it difficult for BB schools to compete. Plus the TV money was around 5x more payout to football schools back then.
3) the revenue for the current BE schools is much greater than it was being a BB school in the old BE. And the athletic expenditures has also increase since realignment.
4) Uconn doesn’t earn more than BE schools for TV revenue. Just looking at TV revenue, they earn around half with the current AAC deal.

Overall the only schools in old BE that aren’t better off financially post realignment are the AAC schools who only bring in 2million TV $ compared to over $10m in the old BE.

 

[ecojew]

Just a few points or correction from past few posts.
1) the BE schools did not receive significant funding from departing members- that $ went to the old BE schools now in the AAC. In addition, the AAC kept the NCAA credits which was over $100M but is now dried up.
2) b-ball only schools never got any money from BCS earnings in the old BE which made it difficult for BB schools to compete. Plus the TV money was around 5x more payout to football schools back then.
3) the revenue for the current BE schools is much greater than it was being a BB school in the old BE. And the athletic expenditures has also increase since realignment.
4) Uconn doesn’t earn more than BE schools for TV revenue. Just looking at TV revenue, they earn around half with the current AAC deal.

Overall the only schools in old BE that aren’t better off financially post realignment are the AAC schools who only bring in 2million TV $ compared to over $10m in the old BE.

It's true that the BE b-ball only schools didn't get BCS $ as part of their annual payouts but the BE conference did get a share to use to operate the conference. So now in the new b-ball only BE, that money must come out of basketball income, which then reduces the annual payout that the individual schools receive.