Mikey, you already said the replacement will not be an upgrade, so what's left? Drive it home?Goodie may have missed on the first pitch but be patient. Goodie will drive it home.
Sports is a unique field. While you won’t see companies like Coke and Pepsi working together, you will see coaches and athletes from different teams working to make each other better. That’s why you also see Yianni in there despite the fact that he trains with and represents Cornell who is a more direct competitor than ColumbiaIs it odd that Donnie is still in the room as of 3 days ago?
My experience of dealing with people that have moved on voluntarily or involuntarily is to deny access immediately. (Finance). Sorry I get he’s a good guy but I have seen many a good guy poach in my lifetime. Too much risk in my opinion. Ability to have access poach staff, athletes and recruits.
Good for you to be optimistic. I tend to base my expectations on history, but no one cares what I think 😕 I'm sticking with my prediction in post #45 on page two of this thread. I will apologize if I'm wrong—yes, I will—but don't hold your breath. The current approach can only provide what Mikey already said: "Not an upgrade. Nobody can replace Donny. But the next hire will be solid".And the wife wins once again. At least I don't have to start believing in Santa Claus again. I'm back to not being very optimistic, assistants have not been flocking here recently.
I get it played basketball and would regularly play with others from different schools. Best competition you can find. But usually did this without coaching. Different with all star teams. But coaches generally frown on people entering their facilities. Specifically one that just left for another position.Sports is a unique field. While you won’t see companies like Coke and Pepsi working together, you will see coaches and athletes from different teams working to make each other better. That’s why you also see Yianni in there despite the fact that he trains with and represents Cornell who is a more direct competitor than Columbia
Goodie had camp this week. It's about getting Seb ready for Paris.I get it played basketball and would regularly play with others from different schools. Best competition you can find. But usually did this without coaching. Different with all star teams. But coaches generally frown on people entering their facilities. Specifically one that just left for another position.
Guess wrestling is different.need to regularly train with people outside of your room with coaches present.
Also odd that goody isn’t in that pic!
Where was the camp? Not at the home of RU wrestling? Again not trying to make this an issue. Goody has always been known as a good guy but some times good guys get taking advantage of. To be caught with your pants down losing the heir apparent and allowing that person to advertise in your building with a photo op with an Olympian and a world champ is a problem.Goodie had camp this week. It's about getting Seb ready for Paris.
It was at the college ave gym, I believe they held another camp in their room or the rac last weekWhere was the camp? Not at the home of RU wrestling? Again not trying to make this an issue. Goody has always been known as a good guy but some times good guys get taking advantage of. To be caught with your pants down losing the heir apparent and allowing that person to advertise in your building is a problem.
You’re creating problems in your head that aren’t real in practiceWhere was the camp? Not at the home of RU wrestling? Again not trying to make this an issue. Goody has always been known as a good guy but some times good guys get taking advantage of. To be caught with your pants down losing the heir apparent and allowing that person to advertise in your building with a photo op with an Olympian and a world champ is a problem.
I hope that’s all it is. I don’t like the optics and the continued difficulty in attracting top quality marquee names assistants.You’re creating problems in your head that aren’t real in practice
Welcome back. Are you sure AA is enough? Maybe it is; I think Snyder had two runner-up finishes, which is as close as you get. Doesn't it depend on whether or not the hire is intended to be Goodale's successor? What credentials do you want for the next head coach? I would think the next coach should have credentials equal to or better than the competition, that is, if there is serious interest in advancing the program. If they settle for someone that will be "solid", quoting Mikey, it won't advance the program. The kids there now, especially the recent recruits who came with the understanding that Donny would be there, deserve better.Our wrestlers are really talented and have great potential. We have 4 All Americans returning this year and the team can be one of best ever. Our wrestlers deserve an outstanding All American coach to join the staff and train them. In the last couple of years at least three accomplished All Americans were asked to join the staff and turned Coach Goodale down. Those mentioned on this forum were Zach Rey, Nate Jackson, and Bryan Sander. We also lost Pritzalff and Ashnault as well as Leonardis as head of the SKWC. While there may be a valid reason for a person leaving or saying no to an offer, when it happens multiple times there is a pattern. Hopefully Rivera or Buxton don't leave after the Olympics. They add a lot of value to the team and are great role models for our wrestlers. Our wrestlers deserve a chance to reach to their potential. An outstanding All American with quality credentials is needed.
Credit given. So far, it's a one-off. I stand by my prediction until proven wrong.The camp in College Ave was from Monday thru Thursday for 5th grade thru high school. Scott has 3 or 4 backup plans if Snyder did not accept. I don’t think you give Goody credit for getting a top flight coach like Donny here as an assistant for the past 10 years.
pessimistically - thanks for the welcome. I don’t enjoy the forum when posters are disrespectful to other posters. I believe we all want the best for our team and being negative to posters who have a different opinion is something I try to avoid. I believe the coach and athletic department are fair game as they are exceedingly well paid to do their job.Welcome back. Are you sure AA is enough? Maybe it is; I think Snyder had two runner-up finishes, which is as close as you get. Doesn't it depend on whether or not the hire is intended to be Goodale's successor? What credentials do you want for the next head coach? I would think the next coach should have credentials equal to or better than the competition, that is, if there is serious interest in advancing the program. If they settle for someone that will be "solid", quoting Mikey, it won't advance the program. The kids there now, especially the recent recruits who came with the understanding that Donny would be there, deserve better.
Ashnault leaving the assistant job and going to another club for better training (aka a different environment), then going to Princeton was bad enough, but losing Donny with the possibility of Rivera too, is tragic. Buxton is also valuable. We know what is needed, but what do you expect will happen? I predicted on page two of this thread. I'll apologize for low expectations if I'm wrong.
It’s a great class but some of the rankings are a little shakey.. for example, Blanchette is no longer ranked on flo for some reason..(inj?). And Ayden Smith went from #2 in his weight class to like #18 once he moved up weights..Not a bad haul eh Mike?
Flo is awful on HS rankings. Willie Saylor is much better. They moved Smith up a weight after he entered the Freestyle tournament where the lightest weight was 125....he wrestled the state championship at 113, that is where his final rankings should have been.It’s a great class but some of the rankings are a little shakey.. for example, Blanchette is no longer ranked on flo for some reason..(inj?). And Ayden Smith went from #2 in his weight class to like #18 once he moved up weights..
The camp in College Ave was from Monday thru Thursday for 5th grade thru high school. Scott has 3 or 4 backup plans if Snyder did not accept. I don’t think you give Goody credit for getting a top flight coach like Donny here as an assistant for the past 10 years.
Chance is a great guy and a phenomenal coach for the kids he coaches but the man has had multiple bouts with serious addiction in the past decadeDoes Chance Marsteller want to coach?
Trying to think out of the box....
Seems like he has turned his life around and is a solid person
If you re looking for outside the box Kolin Moore retired today , he seems like a perfect fit, you guys desperately need a high level coach to push Soldano, Poz and Slav in the room everyday and he can draw in RTC guys as well bc he’s a high level freestylerDoes Chance Marsteller want to coach?
Trying to think out of the box....
Seems like he has turned his life around and is a solid person
Why cant he just tell them now. I'm sure he knows what hes doing. Just hurting the program by making them wait on him to tell them hes leaving.We need to see if Seabass stays first before decisions are made
If
If you re looking for outside the box Kolin Moore retired today , he seems like a perfect fit, you guys desperately need a high level coach to push Soldano, Poz and Slav in the room everyday and he can draw in RTC guys as well bc he’s a high level freestyler
not saying i disagree, but can you pls explain this logic? thanks and apologies for not being able to connect the dots here.We need to see if Seabass stays first before decisions are made
I believe that suggests they'll offer the open job to him, Seabass.not saying i disagree, but can you pls explain this logic? thanks and apologies for not being able to connect the dots here.
I hope so. We don't need an assistant head coach at this point. We need the best in the room coach we can find who will develop our wrestlers. Seabass may be the answer. $$$$I believe that suggests they'll offer the open job to him, Seabass.
A combination of Scott and Seabass would be coolPlus, hiring Seabass leaves the Associate Head coach position open for a bit if we can't get our man this time.
I would be good with Coleman as associate head coach but not sure if there is anyone else that could fill that role available.
Molinaro is at ASU as a coach.
Do you think he would move the needle?
A combination of Seb and ? will help this team. I hope Seb takes the job. Scott isn't an optionA combination of Scott and Seabass would be cool
At this point I hope he takes the job too as it doesn’t sound like we have any other options.A combination of Seb and ? will help this team. I hope Seb takes the job. Scott isn't an option
One month and 2 days since the Donnie news. I hope goody is working on a home run hire
What do we know?I'm definately tempering my expectations. With it dragging out like this I'm not expecting an exciting hire.
So they are now pushing for their 4th option with no guarantee of that even?What do we know?
I believe from what we have heard. Scott, Molinaro and Snyder were interviewed/considered with Snyder being the top target. Snyder declined and now apparently Scott is. It an option and they are all in on Seabass.
This seems to be all of the information or speculation rather that we have to go by