And.....Your point?Because every arena must be built like Prudential Center, Barclays Center, and all the recent arenas with bars, suites, food courts, and other crap.
And.....Your point?Because every arena must be built like Prudential Center, Barclays Center, and all the recent arenas with bars, suites, food courts, and other crap.
Don’t agree with me. That’s all.And.....Your point?
To expand on this, look at the arenas at Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Miami, etc. They are built like mini Barclays Center or legit NBA arenas with their bells and whistles. There will never be another RAC, Assembly Hall in IU, etc where it’s only basketball with unique architecture that would make a place loud or whatever. Even Monmouth and NJIT are built more modern than like the RAC.Because every arena must be built like Prudential Center, Barclays Center, and all the recent arenas with bars, suites, food courts, and other crap.
I think the days of building multipurpose gyms with just bleacher seats like the RAC are over. Admin is going to want to build these luxury amenities for more revenue. The next NEW arena WONT BE the size of the Prudential Center but might be closer to the U of Miami, Pitt’s, or even Monmouth arenas.So Paul Mulcahy will play his last year at some random arena. Cliff may be making a decision on what to do with his career. Do you think Caleb would have stayed this year at Rutgers if he knew he'd playing at the Rock? If NIL becomes more "mainstream" how do we attract and retain players with whatever undesirable solution ends up.
I fear we are taking success for granted. Ask Seton Hall. in this pro sports area, what is the demand for luxury amenities? How is their home court advantage.
If we put up a bunch of 5-15 seasons we go back to no filling a 8,000 seat arena and their is virtually no demand for luxury amenities.
If the demand isn't there building it won't create it. I am also not convinced luxury amenities increase revenue. Increasing SASF fees certainly do.I think the days of building multipurpose gyms with just bleacher seats like the RAC are over. Admin is going to want to build these luxury amenities for more revenue. The next NEW arena WONT BE the size of the Prudential Center but might be closer to the U of Miami, Pitt’s, or even Monmouth arenas.
Not possible, Rac's acoustics cannot be duplicated in modern day due to building codesWhy not build a brand new arena and have the Architects and engineers, engineer loudness in to the design? Anything is possible.
The Bryce Jordan at State Penn is the worst of those listed. An absolute morgue. Hardly “multi-purpose” as it’s basically good enough for Thon and that’s it.To expand on this, look at the arenas at Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Miami, etc. They are built like mini Barclays Center or legit NBA arenas with their bells and whistles. There will never be another RAC, Assembly Hall in IU, etc where it’s only basketball with unique architecture that would make a place loud or whatever. Even Monmouth and NJIT are built more modern than like the RAC.
Some of my previous post got left out.PSU has a new hockey rink they don’t play at Bryce Jordan
No, there were from three ADs ago. Not valid.Are the renderings seen a few years ago still valid? Can anyone post?
You are kidding right?? If not what an idiotic plan - good to know that you are not making any RU decisions.How about leave the RAC alone and figure out a solution to get parking deck connected to the RAC. So silly the walk from the parking deck to the RAC. Have to make a decision to take the long way or the short way that has you walking with the traffic. Both ways aren’t covered
put you on ignore....not kiddingYou are kidding right?? If not what an idiotic plan - good to know that you are not making any RU decisions.
So Paul Mulcahy will play his last year at some random arena. Cliff may be making a decision on what to do with his career. Do you think Caleb would have stayed this year at Rutgers if he knew he'd playing at the Rock? If NIL becomes more "mainstream" how do we attract and retain players with whatever undesirable solution ends up.
I fear we are taking success for granted. Ask Seton Hall. in this pro sports area, what is the demand for luxury amenities? How is their home court advantage.
If we put up a bunch of 5-15 seasons we go back to not filling a 8,000 seat arena and there is virtually no demand for luxury amenities.
Are you trying to compare Seton Hall to Rutgers? I know that's your team.What will average actual attendance be at The Rock for RU home games ?
Did you read my post Colorado fan?Are you trying to compare Seton Hall to Rutgers? I know that's your team.
I'm not being paranoid. I didn't say it to insult you. I was just asking if you were comparing the attendance for both. The RAC has fewer seats than the Prudential Center, and how that would translate from the RAC to Newark if Rutgers played there. I know SHU doesn't open up the upper deck for some games.Did you read my post Colorado fan?
apparently not.
*instead of being paranoid , get in tune on where the team will play when The RAC renovations force them out for a season.
When the RAC closes for renovations in 2023-2024, RU MBB will prob play most home games in NewarkI'm not being paranoid. I didn't say it to insult you. I was just asking if you were comparing the attendance for both. The RAC has fewer seats than the Prudential Center, and how that would translate from the RAC to Newark if Rutgers played there. I know SHU doesn't open up the upper deck for some games.
Pipe down.
Depends how good we are.When the RAC closes for renovations in 2023-2024, RU MBB will prob play most home games in Newark
How will actual attendance be for the RU home games in Newark?
The difficulty in attracting donor support has caused delays in starting construction and equally important the costs for completing projects.100 mil is not that much in NJ for construction.
Rutgers fans are notoriously cheap. Want to win but don't want to pay for it. Instead they'll complain about playing off campus for a year.The difficulty in attracting donor support has caused delays in starting construction and equally important the costs for completing projects.
We know the RAC is louder than many arenas due to the pitch of the seats etcWhy not build a brand new arena and have the Architects and engineers, engineer loudness in to the design? Anything is possible.
For the millionth time. Nobody is tearing down the trapezoid..they are making changes to the inside.We know the RAC is louder than many arenas due to the pitch of the seats etc
Any new arena would be not as loud since we can not rebuild in the same way
it depends then on how important that is
I was responding to BrotherskinneyFor the millionth time. Nobody is tearing down the trapezoid..they are making changes to the inside.
There always are construction delays in big projects caused by weather ,ordering materials and having enough workers available when needed.Your comments are spot on with the need to carefully plan ordering materials to meet target dates for completing the RAC renovation.I hope the powers that be have the incite to order materials ahead of time before starting any renovations to the RAC. In the construction business I am in some materials have jumped from 8 week lead times to 20 weeks with no signs of letting up. If they don’t take this into consideration you will see say a 12 month project turn into 18 months or more. Don’t want to lose 2 seasons due to construction material delays.
It is possible to build loudness into the design the same way it is possible to soften sound in an enclosed space by design.We know the RAC is louder than many arenas due to the pitch of the seats etc
Any new arena would be not as loud since we can not rebuild in the same way
it depends then on how important that is
Renovating the RAC can resolve concerns that it is “outdated and built on the cheap.”It is possible to build loudness into the design the same way it is possible to soften sound in an enclosed space by design.
the engineers can add hard fill panels to amplify the sounds inside the arena. Anything is possible. The RAC is outdated and was built on the cheap. If we want to compete I. The BIG we need to have state of the art facilities. The RAC ain’t cutting it.
I would have to see the finished product RAC before passing judgementIt is possible to build loudness into the design the same way it is possible to soften sound in an enclosed space by design.
the engineers can add hard fill panels to amplify the sounds inside the arena. Anything is possible. The RAC is outdated and was built on the cheap. If we want to compete I. The BIG we need to have state of the art facilities. The RAC ain’t cutting it.
What you are talking about are normal delays. COVID brought on some crazy delays for materials I still can’t get a handle of.There always are construction delays in big projects caused by weather ,ordering materials and having enough workers available when needed.Your comments are spot on with the need to carefully plan ordering materials to meet target dates for completing the RAC renovation.
In a world where we’re raking in ~$100M/yr from the TV contract doesn’t luxury suite revenue seem trivial?I guarantee the admin and Pikiell know how important the RAC atmosphere is to Rutgers and is planning around that.
Not when people/businesses are looking for that as an amenity.In a world where we’re raking in ~$100M/yr from the TV contract doesn’t luxury suite revenue seem trivial?
I guess I’d love to know the numbers. I went to a game at Maryland and the arena couldn’t be more impressive. Suites were beautiful but mostly empty. I’d love to know what that generates per season.Not when people/businesses are looking for that as an amenity.
Doesn't matter if the suites are empty if they're sold -- conservatively, you can easily generate an extra $1-1.5 million or so per year with 10 suites. Suites also help bring in additional sponsorship dollars to pay for even bigger things.I guess I’d love to know the numbers. I went to a game at Maryland and the arena couldn’t be more impressive. Suites were beautiful but mostly empty. I’d love to know what that generates per season.
Security could be an issue at Cure Arena. Terrible story:As the crows flies (if he is taking NJ Transit) from
NB/Piscataway, yes it is.
But overall I think the Prudential Center works the best overall.
Scheduling though could be an issue compared to Cure Arena.