I am such a realist after watching the last 25 years to know that basketball success in a power conference requires talent at a higher level than what Rutgers has recruited in the past.
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Yes that is in fact how it works. It's weaved into conversation with playing time, focus on development etc. There are so many college basketball programs out there - guys just want to play.
You'll be a real realist when you know that PLUS you realize higher talent doesn't come here.
This is an interesting take which I saw
The kid is a FLUID athlete ...kinda reminds me of Steve worthy who needs to lose the weight to become a Steve worthy type. I'm not even suggesting he can get Steve worthy type numbers. But the kid can run, jump and move laterally pretty damn good
My question is can the kid handle the rock on the perimeter and defend 2 and 3 on the perimeter
If he can....I can see him moving up the depth chart
Didn't Byron Joynes (6'9 out of DC ) come in over 300lbs in his (2003-4) freshman year, not being able to stay on the floor very long because of poor conditioning and by the time he left after the 2007-8 season had his body in excellent condition , but never became Herve's replacement like he was recruited to be.
Don't think Bullock can be considered like that and might surprise in a back-up role.
Don't think Bullock can be considered like that and might surprise in a back-up role.
Did you really just say "Most fans named him most likely to transfer" ? Are those the same fans that never saw him practice, play in a game or know what Pikiell wants/expects from him after a redshirt year ?
Do you realize how silly that sounds?
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Its not silly but rather a reflection of what fans thought at the end of the season.You might not agree with that assessment but that doesn't change the right of fans to express their opinions.
There were plenty of rumblings about whether Bullock would be on this team next year. Where have you been?
Rumblings from this board? That really does not mean much.
Were there rumblings from Pikiell ? Were there rumblings from his HS coach ? Were there rumblings about him reaching out to other schools?
If there was any of those three things, I never saw it. Maybe you can show me that information.
I'll take that as meaning that you have no idea if a transfer was ever considered by Bullock. Seems like you believe if it's on the internet it must be true.
He also couldn't lift his arm past a 45/135 degree angle if I recall
When the guy sees a total of 90 seconds of game action on a bad team and the coach puts him in mothballs for the season, well, that's a pretty good indication that the Coach doesn't envision him making any meaningful contribution for the program. Heck, that was obvious to me after just watching the pre-season open practice. And those are the guys that transfer. I'm shocked he's still here, frankly.
Please. Open your eyes, dude. BTW, in about 35 years of following Rutgers basketball, I can't recall a single instance of us redshirting a guy who wasn't injured or an academic non-qualifier. Not one. If you can name two healthy scholarship redshirts in all of college basketball EVER, let me know who they are. This isn't football.
13 scholarship players on the college basketball roster and no one redshirts in College Basketball ? All teams use all 13 scholarship players. Got it.
Is this what you want...... If you can name two healthy scholarship redshirts in all of college basketball EVER, let me know who they are.
If that's your question, it really does not merit a serious response. But, I will give you a two word response....... Jim Boeheim. Two more, John Beilein. What the heck, Rick Pitino. I could go on all day with this.
Not your best work, Colonel. :thumbsdown:
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quite rare - and usually have some quirk linked to the situation - but here's one
Keith Stone - Florida - The 6-foot-8 forward from Deerfield Beach, Fla., redshirted [ 2015-16 ] as a true freshman last year while changing his body. As he tells it, he came in “fat” at 235-240 pounds before dropping down to 227 and building himself back up to 245 with muscle.
Mike Brey redshirts kids CONSTANTLY. Other coaches do the same. There is absolutely no sane reason why a coach would add a scholarship year to a player he wants to get rid of. He could have just as easily played him with the walk-ons. He believes the kid has something and your opinion of him is literally baseless.
Wasn't Kadeem's red-shirt because he enrolled late and missed most of the season by the time he enrolled ?
He enrolled in December of 2011, the year before he was supposed to enroll. So, yes, but it is still a redshirt. Rice could have used him sparingly if he wanted. In fact, I remember fans wanting him to.
I think the star center for Creighton this past season was red shirted the year before as a frosh.
You named three coaches and still never mentioned a single player, but whatever, this definitely has become beyond tiresome. Yes, Kadeem Jack was technically a redshirt but as a mid-year enrollee that's an exceptional case. Some of us are here to discuss Rutgers basketball and you have proven during the last year of the failed Jordan regime and yet again during this discussion that you feel everyone should accentuate only what you consider the positive. In our situation, we don't have the luxury of stashing players for a year. If he could play, he would have.
Popular opinion on why he is here is that Pikiell wanted to create a good relationship with his HS Coach and his close friend Naz Reid. To claim it is anything else, all you have to do is realize that no one other programs of note (any?) offered him by the Spring of his Senior year. I, and a lot of other fans, feel that this was a mistake and was not a good enough reason to use a valuable scholarship / roster spot on him. That's it - nothing more.
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The one thing about Jack was the redshirt was a concern because if he got hurt (which he did a year later) it was going to stunt his development and he'd lose some eligibility because he couldn't get a medical. It was definitely a decision to redshirt him. In retrospect it looks like a no brainer and one that doesn't count. I count it.
Colonel....college BB coaches do redshirt for reasons other than injury or academics. Let's not make this into some big argument. It was an incorrect statement, no big deal. If you don't know that Jim Boeheim has been red-shirting a lot of freshmen a while. I'm not sure what else to say. He only uses 7-8 players, so he redshirts guys. There are coaches all over the country that redshirt. Those grad transfers every year, most redshirted. Especially for guys that need to add some strength or lose some weight....
The other poster mentioned Mike Brey.
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But, also, by burning a redshirt on him, Rice effectively locked him in and prevented him from transferring and guaranteed that he'd have a 6-9 stud for 4 years. With the transfer "epidemic" that actually could've worked in Rice's favor. If you were Rice, you'd probably see that as good investment toward the future. Now, ultimately, after Rice got canned and the whole program blew up and guys were getting hardship waivers to take off, Jack probably would've been able to do the same but, until then, that burned redshirt was actually good for Rutgers. Now, the fact that the "injury redshirt" has been floated to the press (saw it in a Carino article) for Bullock that tells me that the possibility of Bullock transferring and still not losing a year of eligibility is something that has been considered.
I love the kids tape. Good handle, competent shooter and great hops for his weight. A perimeter Rashad Kent maybe. He looks like a kid that can help to me. If he can shoot the three, they can find minutes for him. To get more minutes , he needs to be able to guard on the perimeter. With that type of jumping ability at 240, I have to believe he would be quick enough if he were to lose 15.
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He actually looked heavier during his freshmen year then he did in HS. Some guys just come in overweight.
To be fair I would bet almost all the red shirts in college basketball are for big guys that can use the extra year to develop. And second the red shirts are usually at big time schools who have upper class bigs so they can afford to red shirt a frosh big. You don't see many if any red shirts on a team as bad as we were last year. Bulluck was red shirted because he couldn't crack the lineup last year on a mediocre team. That's a fact. Now could he have improved in the off season? Sure. We will find out how much in a few months. He seems like he is working hard. He didn't transfer and take the easy way out so I am hoping for the best. But we need to be realistic here. If he can get his game to the point of earning 5-10 minutes a game that would be an incredible accomplishment for him.
I expect Johnson for Diallo to be a wash for this upcoming season. I never saw much in Diallo from day 1 and I think Johnson's upside is much higher so I don't think it was a bad signing.
He asked to name 2 players from Rutgers who red shirted not due to academics or injuries.
To respond to your response to another poster:
Many on this board thought Bullock was going to transfer. A head coach doesn't usually talk about his players transferring until they do. A kids high school coach usually doesn't mention him transferring. This is usually always done behind the scenes. You're on the boards all the time, why do you not acknowledge the fact many here think Bullock was brought aboard to help with Reid and build a relationship with Roselle Catholic.
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