1. 99% he said no. Maybe something changed
2. Yuck. I’d be pretty much done with RU
3. Yes please
RU OC Search New Names: Lashlee, Trickett & McNulty Updat
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2. Yuck. I’d be pretty much done with RU
3. Yes please
Let's not go back to the well with McNulty, please, but would love to see Mazzone!
If Ash is trying to get away from the pro set, I don't see McNulty as a good option.
If RU is returning to pro set type O, John would be a good candidate..
I think Ash will be hiring an up and coming OC with experience from a G-5 program or a FCS school's HC that's considered a real good offensive mind and both would be considered spread oriented
I wholeheartedly agree, and here's why. Mazzone comes here, and I don't see him leaving until he retires or is forced out/fired. He's 60. Doubtful he will want a head coach position. He brings a wealth of experience and has coached QBs for many years in college an in the pros. This job will be a great place to end his career with a national championship ring.
I also like the Mazzone idea. He has sold/installed his offense at NJHS programs.. there is a natural recruiting advantage in that.. we'd see HS players running his O and they would see the offense they run at Rutgers... pay Mazzone enough to offer clinics for free to NJHS and build that out... perhaps even training the next generation of coaches who can begin moving up the ranks in college.
As for offensive "systems".. what is in fashion changes so frequently. Think of offensive genius Dana Horgelson at WVU.. looks great.. then looks awful. I think you need a proven game planner and play caller more than the system. And someone who can coach up QBs and get their mind right.. someone who can identify talent and recruit it. System/schmystem.. that will change every X years.
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I don't think Ash will return to pro set or even considering it. That's why , in my opinion, McNulty is a candidate in the media's minds but not on Ash's.
A courtesy interview maybe, but no plans of hire.
From a poster/fan perspective have you ever noticed the correlation between coaches perceived to be very good and the fact that they have very good players?
No need to be sorry. I'm not a UConn guy lol.
If a coach is qualified what does being at UConn have to do with it? Are you opposed to Steve Pikiell coaching basketball? After all, he played for and was an assistant at UConn.
Would you want someone from Auburn?
I think to say just reload at OU is an oversimplification. Texas has tons of money, Charlie Strong couldn't get it right and was confused about what he wanted. Other name programs have had issues with coordinator hires. It's nothing new.
Who were Mike Leach, Mangino, Sumlin, Wilson, Heupel (who was let go), Long etc... before Stoops hired them into the OC spot. Leach started it all and it went downhill from there usually from within the staff because the tone and direction of the offense was set from Stoops. That to me has nothing to do with status or money.
That's exactly my point there are no bowl games or the bowl games are finished for the names I mentioned. UConn didn't make a bowl game this year. Toledo and USF are through with their bowl games. So there's no reason to wait if they were your main targets.
As to job posting I don't know how all that works but it's been at least a week since the announcement so I don't know why it wouldn't be posted by now if it already isn't. Really to me that's a formality anyway. If Ash knew who he wanted now or previous and that target reciprocates interest well that guy is going to get the job whether the job is posted now or not. So to me that's just a technical detail that shouldn't impede anything.
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If Oklahoma was looking for an OC right now, do you think there would be many common names on their list compared to RUs? And if there were any common names and the candidate has their pick which job are they choosing? From a career path perspective particularly under Stoops, they are not comparable situations. The last Riley is now the HC right? The fact that they have a lot more money doesn't mean they will get it right but they can reduce the risk profile of the candidate. Much higher pressure position but that is why you likely get paid significantly more as well.
There could be but good chance there would be different names. That's not the point though.
Most of these hires for Stoops weren't high profile guys they plucked from somewhere else, they were guys from within the staff and their co-OC setups and then other branches off the Leach tree like Riley. That's my point. You start the thread right and you can keep pulling on it to keep things rolling even if a particular person leaves. That's my view of continuity from a different perspective than others here who are looking for it in an embodiment of a single person. I'm not except for maybe the first 2 years. After that hopefully things get rolling and the continuity will come from that thread you started.
Say for example we hired Longo although he isn't likely from some reports mentioned above. He's a Leach disciple. Say he leaves, then maybe a Graham Harrell someone I've suggested as co-O since he's still green, could come along or say Tim Cramsey who took over for him at SHSU could takeover or say someone else from the Leach tree. That's my point. Or say a Sterlin Gilbert from the Briles tree then maybe you can pull on other branches of that same tree like guys who have worked under Babers, Montgomery etc.., not to mention guys that hopefully come up from within the staff learning under good coordinators like that. That's the theme I'm getting at and that's not related to money and status of school.
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At his age, I've said the same and really the only reason he'd leave is if he did so well here he got paid a ton more to be OC somewhere else. I don't think he's getting a HC job anymore that ship has likely sailed.
But the lure I've suggested for him is to bring his son along too. Then maybe he sticks around with the idea that his son can takeover for him if he has similar aptitude for it.
Here's an article a little bit about Stoops and his run at OU and some of the things I referred.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...ators-steve-spurrier-sam-bradford-jason-white
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...ators-steve-spurrier-sam-bradford-jason-white
For those concerned with the timing Jimbo made an interesting quite today when asked why he hasn’t named a coordinator yet. His response was basically I don’t need to because it’s the dead period and he couldn’t talk to recruits anyway.
Coordinator? Defensive coordinator I'm guessing because he's already hired the OC from Memphis. He must be waiting on someone to finish a bowl game.
I'm hoping some time not too long after tomorrow we hear something because Mazzone's bowl game is tomorrow so if it's him I'd think it could be announced over the weekend or early next week.
Adam Rittenberg of ESPN just did a piece on Mike Gundy hiring Mike Yurcich from Shippensburg University. Apparently Gundy was tired of losing assistants and purposely went after someone unknown from a lower-level school.
"I said, 'Forget this. I'm going to go find somebody that nobody will want for a while,'" Gundy said. "And I got lucky, and it worked out great for us, and it solved and/or ended the issue I was concerned about."
While RU has the same issue with OC turnover, I'm not sure the same strategy would work here given our recent past experience.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...oys-mike-gundy-offensive-coordinator-internet
"I said, 'Forget this. I'm going to go find somebody that nobody will want for a while,'" Gundy said. "And I got lucky, and it worked out great for us, and it solved and/or ended the issue I was concerned about."
While RU has the same issue with OC turnover, I'm not sure the same strategy would work here given our recent past experience.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...oys-mike-gundy-offensive-coordinator-internet
As I said in another thread that’s easy because Gundy is an Offensive coach. If guys sucked he could just take over for the year. If Ash hired a DC from D2 I wouldn’t care. We need a solid hire or in 2 years we are coach shopping.
Ur an idiot if you don't want Lashlee. I got respect for that guy. Broke my heart in 2013.
I think Lashlee is trending up. Guy runs the same offense as Gus Malzahn. Its an Air Raid/Power-Spread combo. And if your saying "I don't want nobody from UConn", he left Auburn on his own and UConn offense was better than yours.
Article on the air raid with regards to the playoffs and how it started from Hal Mumme/Leach and has gone down through "generations" and the number of coaches off that tree and their spins on it and how's it evolved. This is what I mean when I say you start the thread right and you can keep pulling on it as necessary.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-acolytes-their-side-college-football-playoff
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-acolytes-their-side-college-football-playoff
checks just about all of the boxes - Ash would need to be certain that the chemistry would match - and then the nearly impossible to answer bonus question would be - does he see sticking around to build an awesome, sustainable & powerful B1G offense to fully lock in his reputation & then be the kind of guy who would get top top level HC offers - or would he be jumping to just any HC spot at the very first opportunity?
That’s not saying much.
We had the next to last Offense in all Division I football this year... 129 out of 130.
Only UTEP was worse.
Exactly so there shouldn't be any complaining about a former Broyles finalist and a coach who coached in the national championship as a GA in 2011 and OC in 2013.
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