Football Rutgers Football collapses against Kansas State in wild Rate Bowl loss
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No posts in the game thread until the end when we lose and all you can do is run down Schiano and the program after that. That's douchebaggery at its worst.
KSU defensive adjustments in 2nd half looked like a mix of run and pass blitz packages and got enough stops. Meanwhile our D was just too slow again. It seemed like KSU copied the ucla offensive game plan against us.
Game was over when KSU made it on 4th Down and 3 from their own 32. Play went for 35 yards.
We had the QB in containment on the run with Powell in pursuit..#6 dropped off his coverage leaving the KSU WR wide open for an easy pass and catch. We stop them there and game is ours if we score.
Don’t forget about Nebraska, another game we let slip through our fingers. Illinois, KSU and Nebraska should all have been wins, but then again we had no business beating Washington so we should have had 9 wins.
Forgot UCLA also. Literally the same horrible playcalling on both sides of the ball in all of those games cost us. Allowed a first year coach and an OC that was a dead man walking out coach our entire staff.
This.
Powell is a huge loss. Runs side to side real well. Toure will be healthy next season hopefully .
Need to score big in the Portal with a B1G ready LB and a Safety . If not we could see multiple 40+ games dropped on us next season.
LB play next year will be an issue. Djabome is still learning and who knows how Toure is healing. Wright Collins and Walker were not serviceable. Major opportunity for a transfer if they want it. However, must come with speed and insticts.
Yes but we should beat a mid level Big 12 team in a Bowl Game that was missing some key players.
There would be plenty of excitement around the program right now if we stopped choking away games like we did season against Illinois, Nebraska, and KSU.
It looked like KSU brought in blitzes and made AK look very jittery. He released the ball way sooner than he wanted to … missed on many opportunities. Only saw 1 screen play called the entire game, should have called a few of those in the 2nd half.
It was because we got cute with the slow defensive subbing and were about to get called for delay of game.
Then explain Indiana's success. How about James Madison and other mid-majors with more success than a B1G program. Good coaches can win with less talent, while bad coaches underachieve. Schiano continues to prove that.
Why do people seem to think that you need a known name coach if Schiano is to be replaced. There are plenty of successful coaches at mid-majors and FCS programs on the east coast that could do as good, if not a better job for less dollars. Good coaches with good systems just win.
This…good coaching…no fieldhouse or NIL…it can be done at least until a B1G comes and steals your coach and players.
Then, other than GS, why haven't we hired another good coach since Frank Burns's hiring in 1973? I would guess our results are in line with or exceeded our recruiting rankings: 2019 12/14, 2020 13/14, 2021 8/14, 2022 9/14, 2023 12/14...but I agree that the losses to Illinois and KSt should've been wins.
Indiana. LOL. On paper, W-L looks good. The only teams with a pulse blew them out.
Wins:
FIU, W Illinois, Charlotte-an FCS team and two G5 teams with losing records
UCLA, Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska, Washington, Michigan State, Purdue- not a single team with a winning record.
Will give them credit for beating a halfway decent Michigan 20-15. And for Blowing out Nebraska.
But c'mon stop with the Indiana hype. It's bullshit.
Why ? Because Indiana and its success should have been Greg’s and Rutgers success? Because our schedule couldn’t have been any easier( combined record well under 500.). Because the only team Greg beat with a winning record was 7-5 Minn? Because the defense was shredded again. Because once again a team made adjustments at halftime and Greg was lost on what to do? Schiano continues to prove he’s a BAD X and O coach. Clearly, he is bad at player development. Those kids were lost this year after injuries this year
Good news all the development players will be starters next year and Greg pics up a few games that might be a little harder than this year.
Schools in the P2 will have potential for an upper hand compared to schools in other conferences because the revenue generated will be quite a bit more than any other conferences and it should be easier to find the money to pay players with regards to NIL given from the school. We're in a group of 34 where it should be easier to find funds as long as we're not so wasteful.
To me the game was lost because of drops, I was very disappointed with Miller yesterday, and our LBs and safeties giving up contain.
This was a game of a few players and KS made more. They were much faster than us. The plays where CD, AR, and IS all could not finish long plays was a big difference.
This was a game of a few players and KS made more. They were much faster than us. The plays where CD, AR, and IS all could not finish long plays was a big difference.
I've always seen misdirection, tempo, using open space well as our achilles on defense. We're an aggressive team and really run to the ball so you can get caught out of position at times. Fortunately, I don't think you see that kind of thing in the B10 except for a few teams.
Honestly, I didn't expect it out of KSU too much. I don't really feel like that's their usual MO but I only saw bits of some of their games this year.
Agreed. On offense. The game was lost when Kirk went away from what was working in the first half. KSU couldn’t set the edge. We were gashing them off tackle. We were hitting our stride keying on the young receivers on short and intermediate routes. He then put focus on inside runs and targeting Miller.
On D it was more of the same. Bad angles and bad assignment football. LB’s can’t scrape and get lost in coverage. And we fell back into a loose zone that allowed for easy passing angles and horrible run support. Our young DB’s played better than our seasoned vets.
They knew they could exploit our defense with it and had 3 weeks to prepare. And they made the right defensive adjustments in the second half which we had no answers for.
The pressure really rattled Athan and his throws were way off. It was more about him missing throws than it was about drops, imo.
If you want to say the game was lost when Greg went conservative in the second half like he ALWAYS does then fine. The offense scored 41 points and had a 17 point lead late in the 3rd quarter.
That vaunted Defensive genius Greg got shredded. The same great defensive mind who was thrown out of Ohio State for being BAD at his job.
I hear the offense and its conservative approach but the D was awful
I was stunned late in the game when they put up the Miller graphic of 10 targets for only two catches and 26 yards. That's really, really bad. At the time, I couldn't remember many of those passes.
The Mascoe drop of a likely INT on 3rd down when we were up 12... that was the one that really got away IMO. Instead, KS converted on 4th and 3 and went on to score. The broadcasters focused on the umpire dodging the throw, but Mascoe got his hands on it. Finish that pick, grind out some clock and score again (even just a FG), and I bet we win the game.
Oh well.
The Mascoe drop of a likely INT on 3rd down when we were up 12... that was the one that really got away IMO. Instead, KS converted on 4th and 3 and went on to score. The broadcasters focused on the umpire dodging the throw, but Mascoe got his hands on it. Finish that pick, grind out some clock and score again (even just a FG), and I bet we win the game.
Oh well.
Because we hired assistants, not winning head coaches. That includes Greg. (unless you want to claim Shea was something as a head coach but go look at his record).
And the drag route..knew it was coming every 3rd down from KSU. Went into zones and over reacted way too often.
KSU's coach is an example. Won multiple championships at North Dakota State.
Shea had a winning record in 2 seasons at San Jose State before the RU disaster, but that's not exactly Klieman at North Dakota State pre KSU.
Yea pretty much what I said. Both sides of the ball were equally awful. Offense because of coaching and defense because of talent/schematic change. Talent on D was decimated this year. Offense outside of Felter was healthy.
Young skilled position players were popping all over the field in the first half. Then as per usual we got away from what got us there. If we stayed aggressive we could have hung 70 on them.
