Pork roll is just sandwich-kielbasa. The Chevy of breakfast meats. Bland and uninspiring. Scrapple and goetta are where it’s at…Cadillacs.
Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano interview with Kathyrn Tappen
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Maybe not him but Al certainly will trot out 6 years if things go badly.
I think Schiano and Al coordinate excuses. Al’s excuses are ‘we don’t have a fieldhouse’ and ‘it takes time to develop FCS players into Big10 studs (and Schiano is the only one who can do that).
So you also rant against other types of sausage?
How do you feel about bratwurst? Or blood pudding? How about haggis? Or scrapple?
Kinda funny how people will differentiate between sausages.
For the record, I had haggis in Scotland a few years ago and it was delicious.
("modern" haggis, which is just a sausage patty when served - not the whole sheep's stomach thing)
Pork Roll / Taylor Ham is just a more delicious, spicier version of fried bologna.
If you listen to Schiano’s interviews, he doesn’t shy away from needing to win. At all.
I am of the opinion that he can recruit and develop good young people, and win. And I think he can do both at a relatively high level.
Have you ever coached young athletes?
What you continue to fail to understand is that to win great games, you need great players. And to get great players, you need a great infrastructure, like what Michigan has. That is going to take people donating to the football Fieldhouse campaign.
Or you pay players a premium to what they could get from powerhouse programs.
Which we don’t have the capacity to do. So we take non-nil players and develop them to the best they can be. Which takes time.
This isn’t the NFL where there is competitive parity and coaching is a differentiator. This is college, where in most cases you will not have a chance of winning unless you have a competitive baseline of talent. Of course, upsets happen but they are the exception rather than the rule.
Once this is built, we should be a 5-8 win team most years.
You certainly jest asking that question. I still want the answer to bratwurst, haggis , sausage.
That was a great interview. Schiano said all of the right things, and he knows that he's recruiting kids' moms and dads as well as the kids themselves. A coach who emphasized culture, education, "good kids" and being a genuine nice guy will likely give us the number one recruiting class in another major sport. Not too long a go, people were calling for his head. It's a smart strategy and I also think it's the right strategy as well. I'm proud to be a Rutgers alum.
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What do you mean he’s not the guy. This is big ten college football not fantasyland football. There’s no one we can hire that could do a better job, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a goddamn fool.
Either people pony up or shut up.
We've ponied up and put up with enough. It's win or good-bye and on to the next guy. Stop enabling mediocrity.
Wow Jerry, good thing no other coaches across the country are also recruiting players’ families and espousing those virtues !!! I must admit, he does a better job recruiting non-P5 talent families than all other P5 head coaches. He seems to be the best at that.
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Those calls will continue from those who don’t think 5 wins is enough most years.
Yes, for 5 wins some years, more wins other years. I frankly don’t know how people can expect better results with fewer resources. If people want better, need to pony up.
I thought it was a very good interview. He was genuine.
Ash’s last two recruiting classes were BAD and an awful 2022 record could have been predicted years ago. Greg worked the transfer portal to salvage it as best he could.
Ash’s last two recruiting classes were BAD and an awful 2022 record could have been predicted years ago. Greg worked the transfer portal to salvage it as best he could.
Al save your breath since most of the negatives are from the same who in the past criticized him in 2005-2006-2007… the same ones hated him back in his initial hiring. The same hate him because he was offered his current long term stint. Do they actually think we don’t want wins ? Stupidity is rampant when a Greg Schiano discussion is involved. 3+ years ago he was the ONLY choice . We definitely see improvement but $$$$ is and always was the X factor. Keep posting … it’s your right as an alum , fan and donor. 6 years ago I read the $$$$ amount donated per ticket holder in football lifetime. Shocked I was well above most of our fanbase. Rutgers posters for the most part talk but in actuality we don’t as someone said “ put up”.
Yes … yet we have some here who find that inadequate and weak. The man said exactly what was appropriate in this interview. We are as bad as some other fanbases when it comes to castrating our own.
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Some don't.
Some claim to be, but it's a lie.
Some fanbases claim they want good citizens in the program
then bash a coach who makes it part of his/hers
Greg makes it part of his roster building because it requites discipline among his players and a disciplined team usually is a winning one.
Jook at the trye of team Greg had after his 4th year in the G1 era and you'll see player made to toe the line and after 4 years of buliding the roster with recruits that met his good citizenship standards and those he could mold into good people ,as well as contribute as players, the 5th year proved a winner and constant bowl bids
Was he 100% successful in keeping RU players on the straight and narrow, not completely , but enough to say he did a great job of it and have winning seasons once he slowly built up the roster with his kind of players
The quality of one's post is usually determined by the likes they receive and from who. You have only Shelby, enough said!
Great interview. Too bad their network doesn’t want to show the BIG team that plays a 40 min train ride away from their tv studios.
GO RU
No, we haven’t ponied up enough, compared to our Big Ten Peers. Maryland just built a $300M Football Fieldhouse. Penn State is spending 6 Figures to renovate their own.
The next guy would not be able to recruit as well as he does because it is very difficult to recruit to Rutgers. The reason why he has such a strong ‘24 class is due to his relationships and tireless efforts.
Hattie -
I forget, was it his 4th or 5th year as you say above when we really started rolling, beating Miami, BC, VaTech and WVU?
Also, help me remember what year we finished 2nd in the BigEast ?
So long ago I have a hard time remembering.
So it’s worth $4 million a year to pay a guy for character-building and consistent losing ? Why not just pay a life-coach $250K instead, since winning apparently isn’t important to some.
I think Year 4 was the year a car load of DBs got rammed and injured by a drunk driver leaving the stadium after a game and set back the program. So it was Year 5
That's some rich shit right there
Is KTT8813 the guy/girl in the Geico commercial who gets all giddy by the number of likes he/she got on social media?
Compared to @rutgersal 's delusions, my post quality are Grade A.
2004 was the tragic accident on the bridge. Schiano spent days at the hospital with one of our players in critical condition. We were maybe 4-1 or maybe 4-0 but it did prevent Rutgers from possible bowl birth instead of 2005.
That wasn’t my question. Hattie noted we really got cooking in year 4 or 5, and I asked him if that was when we beat those teams. What was our highest conference finish ?
Kathyrn Tappen.. Rutgers alum.. great job.. was at the Lousiville game.. just love it
Far be it from me to defend al... but this is the Big Ten.. we would need some significant.. I dunno.. miracle?.. to occur to get to a point where we never see a losing season. That's not on Schiano or any coach.. it is just the big scheme of things.. where teh money is.. the support systems...
I think we really should plan for losing years by loading teh roster to have a significant experience edge every 3-4 years (by sacrificing experience and depth it other years.. to develop players). But the new "free agency" in college football kinda screws that plan. You never know who is going to stay after you invest in them.
College
| Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | Coaches# | AP° |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rutgers Scarlet Knights (Big East Conference) (2001–2011) | |||||||
| 2001 | Rutgers | 2–9 | 0–7 | 8th | |||
| 2002 | Rutgers | 1–11 | 0–7 | 8th | |||
| 2003 | Rutgers | 5–7 | 2–5 | 7th | |||
| 2004 | Rutgers | 4–7 | 1–5 | 6th | |||
| 2005 | Rutgers | 7–5 | 4–3 | 3rd | L Insight | ||
| 2006 | Rutgers | 11–2 | 5–2 | T–2nd | W Texas | 12 | 12 |
| 2007 | Rutgers | 8–5 | 3–4 | T–5th | W International | ||
| 2008 | Rutgers | 8–5 | 5–2 | T–2nd | W Papajohns.com | ||
| 2009 | Rutgers | 9–4 | 3–4 | T–4th | W St. Petersburg | ||
| 2010 | Rutgers | 4–8 | 1–6 | 8th | |||
| 2011 | Rutgers | 9–4 | 4–3 | T–4th | W Pinstripe |
That’s not what he or I said.
He said the average should be 5-8 wins once the thing is set up. And only one man could do it.
I said there are plenty of coaches who could get us to a 5 win season with the increased budget and better infrastructure that is happening going forward.
