Rutgers Passing Game
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Let's face it, we still have no QBs on this team.
EJ Warner was vastly superior to anyone we have. And that was Warner's first start. He is also only 18. He found receivers who were open.
Our QBs never seem to find anyone open. And when the receivers are open, they can't get the ball to them. They have time to throw but have been yelled at that if they throw an INT, they will be placed on the Portal before the game is over.
Wimsatt does not want to be called "WINTsatt."
Our QBs show no improvement from play to play, game to game or year to year. They look the same.
So all we have is LanganBall. That has remained the same from play to play, game to game, year to year. With Langan, we look like that great 1869 team that won the first CFB championship. We are using the same playbook.
If Vedral is not healthy soon, we could go 0 - 9 from here on.
EJ Warner was vastly superior to anyone we have. And that was Warner's first start. He is also only 18. He found receivers who were open.
Our QBs never seem to find anyone open. And when the receivers are open, they can't get the ball to them. They have time to throw but have been yelled at that if they throw an INT, they will be placed on the Portal before the game is over.
Wimsatt does not want to be called "WINTsatt."
Our QBs show no improvement from play to play, game to game or year to year. They look the same.
So all we have is LanganBall. That has remained the same from play to play, game to game, year to year. With Langan, we look like that great 1869 team that won the first CFB championship. We are using the same playbook.
If Vedral is not healthy soon, we could go 0 - 9 from here on.
Here’s an easy one, though sanu saved the day
Rutgers at Syracuse Box Score, November 21, 2009 | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Rutgers at Syracuse Box Score, November 21, 2009
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Ineligible as the worst. Includes a TD. Against BC and Temple total passing touchdowns =ZEROHere’s an easy one, though sanu saved the day
Rutgers at Syracuse Box Score, November 21, 2009 | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Rutgers at Syracuse Box Score, November 21, 2009
Not looking for an argument, just honest thoughts/opinions.
Do other teams CBs/DBs stay up and give a bump to our receivers much? Do ours ever do that, and if not, why not, at least once in awhile?
Do we always send everyone at the punter, leaving our return guy with nobody to block or at least slow down the other team's guys. Are we always keeping our fingers crossed that our return guy gets 3 or 4 other guys to miss?
What percent (give or take) of passes to Tight Ends do other teams run? Do our TEs stay in to block most of the time? I would think and hope that our TEs would be thrown to at least 1/3 of the time. (Granted, I haven't checked any stats on that). If not, why not?
Are other team's receivers just better athletes or better at improvising?
Similarly, are other team's QBs smarter, more intuitive, or is it the game planning?
Do other teams CBs/DBs stay up and give a bump to our receivers much? Do ours ever do that, and if not, why not, at least once in awhile?
Do we always send everyone at the punter, leaving our return guy with nobody to block or at least slow down the other team's guys. Are we always keeping our fingers crossed that our return guy gets 3 or 4 other guys to miss?
What percent (give or take) of passes to Tight Ends do other teams run? Do our TEs stay in to block most of the time? I would think and hope that our TEs would be thrown to at least 1/3 of the time. (Granted, I haven't checked any stats on that). If not, why not?
Are other team's receivers just better athletes or better at improvising?
Similarly, are other team's QBs smarter, more intuitive, or is it the game planning?
Have you considered seeking professional help?
How was the kid 4 star when he can't complete a pass beyond 5 yards? I don't understand these rankings.
Simon didn't throw the pick6 that lost the game
I guess it could've been worse, as many of us unfortunately remember....
2018- Maryland 34, Rutgers 7
2/17 passing for 8 yards, 5 interceptions... Average of 16.9 inches per attempt, and we threw more than twice as many completions to the other team than to our guys....
2019- Indiana 35, Rutgers 0
5/13 passing for 1 yard, for an average of 2.76 inches per attempt....
Spot on AZ. This is not a Schiano phenomenon. The passing attack under ash was just as terrible and he went through multiple coordinators. It’s a talent thing, not a scheme thing.
Happened under Flood. Under Flood, when it was 3rd down with 7-9 yards to make first down, we would run the ball. I said that Flood wanted us to win with the defense even though he came from the offensive side of the game.
AZ … cruel to cite passing in inches. Let’s go with centimeters. Numbers are twice as large. Sounds better that way
Our last passing Touchdown (not including Wagner) was October 21, 2021.
In the 21-7 loss to Northwestern.
That is 8 games without a passing TD.
If we haven't recruited the talent for even a garbage time passing TD in 8 games that's a little shocking.
I'm sure someone will point out we are 4-4 in that time period:
We beat Illinois (5-7, 4-5) Indiana (2-10, 0-9), BC (1-2) and Temple (1-2).
So one good win (Indiana).
We were also blown out by Wisconsin (+49pts), PSU (+28), Maryland (+24) and Wake Forest (+28)
In the 21-7 loss to Northwestern.
That is 8 games without a passing TD.
If we haven't recruited the talent for even a garbage time passing TD in 8 games that's a little shocking.
I'm sure someone will point out we are 4-4 in that time period:
We beat Illinois (5-7, 4-5) Indiana (2-10, 0-9), BC (1-2) and Temple (1-2).
So one good win (Indiana).
We were also blown out by Wisconsin (+49pts), PSU (+28), Maryland (+24) and Wake Forest (+28)
I was more upset with the play calling. I thought the Simon passes to the middle of the field were fine. Still surprised none to the middle or the tight end like Temple’s TD.
None in the flat or WRs in motion. No crossing routes. Those outside throws were tough passes that many NFL QBs can’t make.
On a positive note, no interceptions.
None in the flat or WRs in motion. No crossing routes. Those outside throws were tough passes that many NFL QBs can’t make.
On a positive note, no interceptions.
Yesterday Temple with a freshman QB and a new coach had a TD pass--against US--but we couldn't do the same to them 3 years in. And we have fans demanding more time time time. You can't get a single offensive TD against Temple you've got a problem. Look for more beatdowns coming.
Where is our Warner? Why can’t we recruit a single QB that looks like he has swagger. Other than Wimsatt’s first pass vs Illinois he’s shown us nothing with his arm. Looks like another recruiting swing and miss by the staff.
There are - but until an already bad OL became markedly worse following the Sutton and ONeal injuries, NV had the green light to throw last year. When he returns I’d expect to see more pass plays in line with the first part of last season.💤
We’re not at practice and Simon sure didn’t look great on the throws he attempted yesterday. Gavin couldn’t throw against Wagner so…. Let’s see what the offense looks like with NV.
I fully agree with both. It’s not all the players. They aren’t put in a position to succeed based on the offensive play calls. The play calling has been horrific. 2 receivers standing next to each other in their route should never happen.
See my prior post of how we ended last season with 6 straight games of no passing TDs.
Believe that was all NV.
The reality is that we do not have on this roster a quarterback who has even remotely demonstrated the ability to perform in an FBS game, let alone a power five game, let alone a big 10 game. And apparently Gleeson recognizes this and that’s why there were so few downfield passes that our QBs were allowed to throw even against Temple. Iowa has an excellent pass defense. Next Saturday has all the makings of a very disappointing game.
Most power five schools recruit at least one and often two quality quarterbacks a year. We rarely recruit one QB a year who had multiple top P5 offers.. And unlike other teams (Pitt’s quarterback last year is a great example), we don’t develop most of the quarterbacks that we do recruit.
Look what Temple’s unrecruited true freshman quarterback did in his first start against our supposed Big Ten level defense. Compare and contrast.
Most power five schools recruit at least one and often two quality quarterbacks a year. We rarely recruit one QB a year who had multiple top P5 offers.. And unlike other teams (Pitt’s quarterback last year is a great example), we don’t develop most of the quarterbacks that we do recruit.
Look what Temple’s unrecruited true freshman quarterback did in his first start against our supposed Big Ten level defense. Compare and contrast.
Game planning.
That offense can be run by a Pop Warner football team. It was the most risk adverse offense I have yet to see. Next up would be to not throw the ball at all. There was no imagination or misdirection, it's as basic as you can get. Either our offensive players are functioning idiots or they're holding back in order to be rick adverse.
Middle of the field passing is risky. Passes to the sideline are more risk adverse. There's a recurring pattern here with the play calling.
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Make a brand new thread on this. This deserves its own thread. WILD stat
I think Schiano must've had a traumatic experience one day while playing Pop Warner football--or flag football--where his team lost on a turnover and it left him obsessively afraid of turnovers for the rest of his life.
I agree 100% that most power 5 schools recruits , 2 quality 4 stars plus if they can, every year. When we recruited Winsatt, we must have promised him he was our QB and didn’t recruit anyone for next couple of years. Maybe the only way he was coming here.
Pray they are just hiding the offense they intend to use in the B1G games. #PUREHOPIUM
Agree re Wimsatt - but getting Wimsatt is the exception. We rarely get highly recruited quarterbacks and most of those years where we don’t we only are able to recruit a single quarterback.
Before camp, who did we think our QB would be? I would say at least 80% of us (probably 90) said Vedral and/or Wimsatt. Well, Vedral is hurt and Wimsatt got hurt yesterday. Simon is our #3. I know, he looked ok up at Boston, He is our #3. Let's hope Vedral and Wimsatt are both good for Iowa and then we can judge fairly.
Each time I read your posts out of curiosity from the angry reactions of others (since I have you on ignore), I’m reminded I’m never sure what distinguishes a sociopath from a psychopath, because you choose to be here at all.
Well, as the man said...only 3 things can happen when you throw and two of them are bad.
Since we're in the B1G now maybe he was channeling Woody Hayes. 🤷♂️ LOL
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