Sandusky stuff "happened over 40 years ago" - state penn coach

[DJ Spanky]

Or with those who can't substantiate their fabrications and hate.

Well it was substantial enough that your cesspool school paid compensation to the victims.

 

[biacto]

Well it was substantial enough that your cesspool school paid compensation to the victims.

Paying a settlement isn't an admission of guilt. In this case, it's an admission of stupidity and Trustees trying to cover up.

 

[MADHAT1]

Or with those who can't substantiate their fabrications and hate.

Penn St covered up Sandusky's actions for years and that was proven.
Cult members like you and Cheesesteak refuse to admit the truth and that's why talk about
the cover-up will never end.
Even the PSU FB HC admitted Penn St covered up for Sandusky40 years ago.

 

[biacto]

Penn St covered up Sandusky's actions for years and that was proven.
Cult members like you and Cheesesteak refuse to admit the truth and that's why talk about
the cover-up will never end.
Even the PSU FB HC admitted Penn St covered up for Sandusky40 years ago.

Link the proof and evidence.

I can't wait to see it.

 

[MADHAT1]

Link the proof and evidence.

I can't wait to see it.

http://wnep.com/2012/09/21/entire-sandusky-trial-transcript-released

 

[Knight Ed]

The cult is just doing what Paterno did for 40 years. When it comes to the dozens of children who were raped over a decades, just lie your ass off. They just have no self respect as human beings.

 

[biacto]

http://wnep.com/2012/09/21/entire-sandusky-trial-transcript-released

Nothing but pure contrived garbage.

 

[biacto]

The cult is just doing what Paterno did for 40 years. When it comes to the dozens of children who were raped over a decades, just lie your ass off. They just have no self respect as human beings.

Show us evidence of where the "rapes" happened.

 

[BoogieKnight]

Let's say for a moment that no one knew in the 1970's. Let's say for a moment Joe Paterno never really knew the extent of what JS was doing at any time. Although not convicted, there was enough smoke after the 1998 accusations that university leadership should have corroborated "maybe it's a good idea that we don't keep this Sandusky guy around". Now, the guy does your administration a solid and RETIRES supposedly by his own volition after the '99 season. And then the 2001 shower incident happens which now really has to raise some red flags. So tell me this...why did the administration and Joe Paterno (who I'm sure now knew something was off with this fella, even if not EXACTLY what and we know he didn't like him personally) allow him to hang around your facilities for the next 10 years? There really is no good answer to this question and that is why your university leadership is garbage. Commence with clearing Paterno's good name, no one cares about your dead football coach except you. The fact that nut Anthony Lubrano's wife left him over his quixotic mission to redeem Paterno embodies how pathetic all of you look who still defend him to to your deaths. He's dead and it's just a game. Let it go. There are truly more significant issues facing this nation at the moment than Joe Paterno's good name and his football game victory totals.

 

[rubigtimenow]

Excellent post boogie night. Well said.

 

[biacto]

Let's say for a moment that no one knew in the 1970's. Let's say for a moment Joe Paterno never really knew the extent of what JS was doing at any time. Although not convicted, there was enough smoke after the 1998 accusations that university leadership should have corroborated "maybe it's a good idea that we don't keep this Sandusky guy around". Now, the guy does your administration a solid and RETIRES supposedly by his own volition after the '99 season. And then the 2001 shower incident happens which now really has to raise some red flags. So tell me this...why did the administration and Joe Paterno (who I'm sure now knew something was off with this fella, even if not EXACTLY what and we know he didn't like him personally) allow him to hang around your facilities for the next 10 years? There really is no good answer to this question and that is why your university leadership is garbage. Commence with clearing Paterno's good name, no one cares about your dead football coach except you. The fact that nut Anthony Lubrano's wife left him over his quixotic mission to redeem Paterno embodies how pathetic all of you look who still defend him to to your deaths. He's dead and it's just a game. Let it go. There are truly more significant issues facing this nation at the moment than Joe Paterno's good name and his football game victory totals.

There is nothing but lying BS Paterno or PSU did anything wrong.

Or do you have the evidence?

Link it.

 

[biacto]

Excellent post boogie night. Well said.

NOTHING!

 

[Cheesesteak Vegas]

Let's say for a moment that no one knew in the 1970's. Let's say for a moment Joe Paterno never really knew the extent of what JS was doing at any time. Although not convicted, there was enough smoke after the 1998 accusations that university leadership should have corroborated "maybe it's a good idea that we don't keep this Sandusky guy around". Now, the guy does your administration a solid and RETIRES supposedly by his own volition after the '99 season. And then the 2001 shower incident happens which now really has to raise some red flags. So tell me this...why did the administration and Joe Paterno (who I'm sure now knew something was off with this fella, even if not EXACTLY what and we know he didn't like him personally) allow him to hang around your facilities for the next 10 years? There really is no good answer to this question and that is why your university leadership is garbage. Commence with clearing Paterno's good name, no one cares about your dead football coach except you. The fact that nut Anthony Lubrano's wife left him over his quixotic mission to redeem Paterno embodies how pathetic all of you look who still defend him to to your deaths. He's dead and it's just a game. Let it go. There are truly more significant issues facing this nation at the moment than Joe Paterno's good name and his football game victory totals.

Not convicted in 98? He wasn't even charged. One of many failures by the state of Pennsylvania.

Retires supposedly on his own volition? Even your boy Freeh says his retirement was legit and not forced.

 

[BoogieKnight]

There is nothing but lying BS Paterno or PSU did anything wrong.

Or do you have the evidence?

Link it.

I honestly don't care enough to get into this any further. I will leave the evidence and "the truth" to you freaks. If Jesus came down from heaven tomorrow and announced to the universe that Joe Paterno is the greatest human being to ever walk the face of the earth it wouldn't have any meaningful impact on anyone's life outside of his immediate family. I'm dumbfounded as to why so many people care and go to these lengths to defend a person they likely never met or knew on a personal level.

 

[BoogieKnight]

Not convicted in 98? He wasn't even charged. One of many failures by the state of Pennsylvania.

Retires supposedly on his own volition? Even your boy Freeh says his retirement was legit and not forced.

Why is Freeh "my boy"? I'm saying he retired by his own will and did the administration a favor. He was no longer their problem and they didn't even have to pull the plug themselves. Yet they let him hang around for another decade. Again, this s#it is so stupid and I for one am tired of reading about it on Rutgers football boards.The "truthers" are quacks lead by that tool Lubrano. That guy is certifiably insane.

 

[ATIOH]

Besides an HD video of him raping another kid in the PSU locker room, while Paterno is watching and holding a newspaper that clearly shows the date, what evidence would convince you?

And I'm assuming that would convince you, right???

"Uh, well Joe didn't have the right glasses on, and Uh, that might not even be the real PSU locker room. A rival fan probably went Ocean's 11 and created a replica. Oh, and that 8 year old boy is actually a 40 year old midget"

 

[MADHAT1]

Not convicted in 98? He wasn't even charged. One of many failures by the state of Pennsylvania.

Retires supposedly on his own volition? Even your boy Freeh says his retirement was legit and not forced.

Not so fast there Cheesesteak, don’t forget the Penn St campus police were in charge of that investigation in 1998
1998 Jerry Sandusky investigator would have pursued dropped case if he had seen hidden Penn State police report
Jerry Lauro, brought in to investigate the child abuse claims against Sandusky, said Wednesday that Penn State police never shared those conflicting reports with him before he closed the case. Lauro said he closed the case because he did not believe there was enough evidence based solely on interviews.

Lauro was interviewed by the state grand jury that recently brought 52 child sex abuse charges involving 10 boys against Sandusky, but he said he did not even know that psychologists had evaluated the boy, then 11, until a reporter who acquired the 100-page report approached Lauro and showed him the reports.

Penn State “Detective [Ron] Schreffler never shared any of these with me,” Lauro said, referring to reports from psychologist John Seasock and a female psychologist.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/03/penn_state.html

 

[mikershoein]

Not a word of truth in your drivel.

Jubaltaman, you joined up for Rivals yesterday and shot out of the cannon defending PSU and the gross theme of the cult in happy valley.

You sound like 2 former posters here, DNA22 and reppin jerz, are they your cousins ?

 

[R1950]

I know one thing.

When a coach uses excuses for every aspect of his program. Whether its recruiting or winning on the field. Never do they become good coaches. Franklin is a joke among other coaches around the country. Just like the university he represents.

Oh forgot to say. Franklin has done more negative recruiting than any coach around. You don't see other coaches crying like he does. Its comical in central Pa

Dead on !

 

[candid]

Per nj.com quote article, Franklin says the Sandusky stuff is "things that you, your staff, your players have nothing to do with and happened over 40 years ago."
So, as a person very close to the "inside info", as the most recognizable face and leader of your "ridiculed" program....umm, so you're admitting it happened 40 years ago?
Anybody else able to confirm he really said this? Lol!!
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...tes_around_league_on_big_ten_media_day.html#4

I have to remember the next time I criticize the PSU fan base for denying facts on Sandusky and JoPa, the coaching staff swims in the same bs.

 

[Knight Ed]

What the cult guys don't ever get is that when they go to other boards to perpetuate their crazy acts they just keep the scandal forever tied to Penn State. Most people who hear Penn State still think of the child rapes first and it's guys like Cheesesteak and Bianca that keep that image going for the public. Everyone sees Cheeseteak and Bianca continuing the lies of Paterno's cult after all these years and think that what Penn State is and always will be. These two morons have no idea how they keep hurting their school's image with every post they type. They seriously have no concept of that and assuredly never will.
Hey cult guys, if you want to keep the crimes of Paterno and Sandusky fresh in everyone's minds for all eternity and forever tied to Penn State University, just keep posting. You're doing a great job.

 

[ATIOH]

In his defense, cheesteak has rational conversations on non-sodomy threads and however wrong, he is making a detailed case here for what he believes in.

The other guy is clearly just trolling and using a new account because the mods probably banned the old one. It's like whack-a-mole.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Penn St covered up Sandusky's actions for years and that was proven.
Cult members like you and Cheesesteak refuse to admit the truth and that's why talk about
the cover-up will never end.
Even the PSU FB HC admitted Penn St covered up for Sandusky40 years ago.

Link the proof and evidence.

I can't wait to see it.

I don't know why you guys bother: all this clown is doing is putting his hands over his ears, saying "Na-na-na-na-na! You're wrong!" and claiming there's no proof when there are trial transcripts and depositions that support this.

 

[DJ Spanky]

In his defense, cheesteak has rational conversations on non-sodomy threads and however wrong, he is making a detailed case here for what he believes in.

The other guy is clearly just trolling and using a new account because the mods probably banned the old one. It's like whack-a-mole.

Consider the mole whacked!

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Show us evidence of where the "rapes" happened.

Was no one raped by Sandusky?

Do you belong to NAMBLA or something?

Are you really saying no one was "raped".. just to defend your position in saying Penn State / JoePA did nothing wrong?

Can you at least join the human race here and admit that you can see why people might think JoePA knew something or think that Penn State looked the other way? Or do you think we are all out to get you and are all disingenuous when we suggest something nefarious was going on somewhere there?

 

[Knight Ed]

Was no one raped by Sandusky?

Do you belong to NAMBLA or something?

Are you really saying no one was "raped".. just to defend your position in saying Penn State / JoePA did nothing wrong?

Can you at least join the human race here and admit that you can see why people might think JoePA knew something or think that Penn State looked the other way? Or do you think we are all out to get you and are all disingenuous when we suggest something nefarious was going on somewhere there?

Bianca has been here before as DNA22. He posts under a different name on the Penn State board but comes here under an alias. He knows he is making up stuff which is why he had to come up with another fake name to post here. Bianca, if you are so confident you are right, why the fake sign on instead of your regular Penn State handle? Or do you not want to be called out by your own classmates for all of your crazy posts on other team sites?

 

[Clearscreen25]

Here is your evidence - he was convicted by a jury after a trial, with evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt." These are the counts he was convicted of.

In case you were wondering, in Pennsylvania, Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse(IDSI) is defined as a person engaging in deviate sexual intercourse with a complainant by forcible compulsion. The complainant can be either a male or a female. IDSI differs from rape by encompassing more sex acts, including penetration with foreign objects or sex with an animal.

Another Felony 1(and 3) he was convicted of, unlawful contact with a minor, in Pennsylvania, is when a person intentionally contacts a minor to try to meet them for a sexual act as defined in the statutes.

If you still are defending this disgusting sub-human, I hope you rot in hell along with him.

Sandusky Verdict:
Victim 1
Count 1 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 2 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 3 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Felony 3)
Count 4 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 5 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 6 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 2
Count 7 - not guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 8 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 9 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 10 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 11 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 3
Count 12 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 13 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 14 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 15 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 4
Count 16 - ****DROPPED****: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 17 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 18 - ****DROPPED*****: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 19 - ****DROPPED*****: Aggravated Indecent Assault (Felony 2)
Count 20 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 21 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 22 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 23 - guilty" Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 5
Count 24 - not guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 25 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 26 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 27 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 6
Count 28 - not guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 29 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 30 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 31 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 7
Count 32 - guilty: Criminal Attempt to Commit Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 33 - ****DROPPED****: WITHDRAWN BY PROSECUTORS (unlawful contact with minors)
Count 34 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 35 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 8
Count 36 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 37 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 38 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 39 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 40 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
(Due to 2nd indictment, counts start over with Victims 9 and 10)
Victim 9
Count 1 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 2 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 3 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Felony 3)
Count 4 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 5 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 6 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 10
Count 7 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 8 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 9 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 10 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 11 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 12 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)

 

[thegock]

Biacto doesn't seem to get it. This last post on Saturday give the result of all the evidence,

BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Get in now, Einstein?

Here is your evidence - he was convicted by a jury after a trial, with evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt." These are the counts he was convicted of.

In case you were wondering, in Pennsylvania, Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse(IDSI) is defined as a person engaging in deviate sexual intercourse with a complainant by forcible compulsion. The complainant can be either a male or a female. IDSI differs from rape by encompassing more sex acts, including penetration with foreign objects or sex with an animal.

Another Felony 1(and 3) he was convicted of, unlawful contact with a minor, in Pennsylvania, is when a person intentionally contacts a minor to try to meet them for a sexual act as defined in the statutes.

If you still are defending this disgusting sub-human, I hope you rot in hell along with him.

Sandusky Verdict:
Victim 1
Count 1 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 2 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 3 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Felony 3)
Count 4 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 5 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 6 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 2
Count 7 - not guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 8 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 9 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 10 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 11 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 3
Count 12 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 13 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 14 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 15 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 4
Count 16 - ****DROPPED****: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 17 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 18 - ****DROPPED*****: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 19 - ****DROPPED*****: Aggravated Indecent Assault (Felony 2)
Count 20 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 21 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 22 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 23 - guilty" Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 5
Count 24 - not guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 25 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 26 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 27 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 6
Count 28 - not guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 29 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 3)
Count 30 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 31 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 7
Count 32 - guilty: Criminal Attempt to Commit Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 33 - ****DROPPED****: WITHDRAWN BY PROSECUTORS (unlawful contact with minors)
Count 34 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 35 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
Victim 8
Count 36 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 37 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 2)
Count 38 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 39 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 40 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Misdemeanor 1)
(Due to 2nd indictment, counts start over with Victims 9 and 10)
Victim 9
Count 1 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 2 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 3 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Felony 3)
Count 4 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 5 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 6 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)
Victim 10
Count 7 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 8 - guilty: Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse (Felony 1)
Count 9 - guilty: Indecent Assault (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 10 - guilty: Unlawful Contact with Minors (Felony 1)
Count 11 - guilty: Corruption of Minors (Misdemeanor 1)
Count 12 - guilty: Endangering Welfare of Children (Felony 3)

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Biacto doesn't seem to get it. This last post on Saturday give the result of all the evidence,

BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Get in now, Einstein?

I thank the Penn State fan for revealing just how warped such a cultist can be. For every one like him there are hundreds that believe the same thing but only voice it to eachother. But we have also seen the Penn State fans that know it is as bad as everyone says... they probably outnumber the cultists but have been cowed by them... and they just want it all to go away... as would anyone in their shoes.

 

[miketd1]

IMO, folks at even the highest levels heard the "whispers".

However everyone chose the "plausible deniability" route instead of peeling the onion further.

No one wanted to be "that guy" that brought the house of cards down.

And so children had to suffer because men who were supposedly strong leaders were weak.

 

[REDRICH65]

Welcome to our liberal world where anyone can do anything but nothing is ever wrong if money, sex, or race is involved.

 

[RU84]

I cant believe 2008 was 40 years ago

Good one!