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Sandusky stuff "happened over 40 years ago" - state penn coach

Look this is a Rutgers board and if you can't see that Nit posters keep threads like this alive you probably just don't understand recent revelations about the cover up have shown it went on for longer than originally thought.
So instead of this being old news it became something new to the public and worthy of discussion. But the discussion would have ended if cult members didn't extend the talks with their BS.
As for :"The current staff and administration has nothing to do with it" read what the cult posts on this board denying it and what the current PSU President said about the reports of what happened 40 years ago.
Making that statement by you a uneducated spin.

Then again you might just have your head in the sand , like many Syracuse supporters did during the Bernie Fine incident and prefer to remain ignorant
Beat them on the field. Thats how you get back at teams you don't respect. Talking about how bad this situation is doesn't win games. So what they deny it? Talk about rutgers. Its a lot of positive things going at Rutgers but a lot of posters want to focus on the negative and bring up sandusky on every mention of penn st. Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves? They are so bad and Rutgers are so good. Look at us. lol. Every school has issues or had bad things happen. Some worse than others. There's bad things that get cover up that you never hear about. Happens everywhere. Yes is happens in Syracuse too. Doesnt bother me because we all have our problems. The world has problems. I know there is Penn st poster that comment alot but I see way more rutgers fans taking shots. Its non stop
 
Beat them on the field. Thats how you get back at teams you don't respect. Talking about how bad this situation is doesn't win games. So what they deny it? Talk about rutgers. Its a lot of positive things going at Rutgers but a lot of posters want to focus on the negative and bring up sandusky on every mention of penn st. Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves? They are so bad and Rutgers are so good. Look at us. lol. Every school has issues or had bad things happen. Some worse than others. There's bad things that get cover up that you never hear about. Happens everywhere. Yes is happens in Syracuse too. Doesnt bother me because we all have our problems. The world has problems. I know there is Penn st poster that comment alot but I see way more rutgers fans taking shots. Its non stop
Since this is a Rutgers board you can expect multiple replies from Scarlet Nation members for every post that Nit makes.
Just like there will be more SN members replying to you than Penn St or Syracuse fans would reply to you in this thread.
Also ( if you noticed) this thread is about what the Penn St FB coach said, not what you feel should be discussed.
If you don't like how this board acts, stay on your own or just find threads on this board that you like and participate in them.
It's fools like you and that Nit that are keeping this thread alive and I think he/she figured out it would die if he/she stopped bringing it back to life.
Then you came and made sure this thread would continue [roll]

Don't want to see Rutgers fans talk about what Franklin said, it's simple :
don't participate in a thread where Rutgers fans are discussing what he said.:chairshot:
 
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why are rutgers fans still bringing up?

Three reasons.
1) New information keeps coming out about how long and awful the conspiracy was
2) Your coach brought up the 40 year reign of terror
3) You cultists keep coming over here to deny, deflect and contradict yourselves.

The current staff and administration has nothing to do with it.
Sort of. But four different PSU Presidents oversaw Keep Quiet payments. None of them ever asked Joe "Why are we paying for this guy"?
Barron might not have actually heard anything but he did spend the bulk of his career in the inbred mess that is State College.

get over it.
How's this working out for the raped kids?
 
Since this is a Rutgers board you can expect multiple replies from Scarlet Nation members for every post that Nit makes.
Just like there will be more SN members replying to you than Penn St or Syracuse fans would reply to you in this thread.
Also ( if you noticed) this thread is about what the Penn St FB coach said, not what you feel should be discussed.
If you don't like how this board acts, stay on your own or just find threads on this board that you like and participate in them.
It's fools like you and that Nit that are keeping this thread alive and I think he/she figured out it would die if he/she stopped bringing it back to life.
Then you came and made sure this thread would continue [roll]

Don't want to see Rutgers fans talk about what Franklin said, it's simple :
don't participate in a thread where Rutgers fans are discussing what he said.:chairshot:
Ok you guys are right. I will join in with the mockery of this awful situation. It is pretty enjoyable. In addition, I really would like to see Rutgers beat Penn st routinely and make a push in that Big 10 east.
 
Three reasons.
1) New information keeps coming out about how long and awful the conspiracy was
2) Your coach brought up the 40 year reign of terror
3) You cultists keep coming over here to deny, deflect and contradict yourselves.


Sort of. But four different PSU Presidents oversaw Keep Quiet payments. None of them ever asked Joe "Why are we paying for this guy"?
Barron might not have actually heard anything but he did spend the bulk of his career in the inbred mess that is State College.


How's this working out for the raped kids?
sad situation isnt it? Syracuse are all rapists. The whole city is. Despicable.
 
Beat them on the field. Thats how you get back at teams you don't respect. Talking about how bad this situation is doesn't win games. So what they deny it? Talk about rutgers. Its a lot of positive things going at Rutgers but a lot of posters want to focus on the negative and bring up sandusky on every mention of penn st. Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves? They are so bad and Rutgers are so good. Look at us. lol. Every school has issues or had bad things happen. Some worse than others. There's bad things that get cover up that you never hear about. Happens everywhere. Yes is happens in Syracuse too. Doesnt bother me because we all have our problems. The world has problems. I know there is Penn st poster that comment alot but I see way more rutgers fans taking shots. Its non stop
You can switch team names and details, cut and paste this post and apply it to pretty much every fanboard on Rivals.

This is a college sports message board. Fans of one team are going to get into it with other fanbases in the same conference and geographic proximity. This is particularly true in July when there's nothing else to talk about. Preaching that this shouldn't happen betrays a lack of understanding of the fundamental reasons these boards exist.
 
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You can switch team names and details, cut and paste this post and apply it to pretty much every fanboard on Rivals.

This is a college sports message board. Fans of one team are going to get into it with other fanbases in the same conference and geographic proximity. This is particularly true in July when there's nothing else to talk about. Preaching that this shouldn't happen betrays a lack of understanding of the fundamental reasons these boards exist.
I agree. Good point
 
You can switch team names and details, cut and paste this post and apply it to pretty much every fanboard on Rivals.

Are we talking about trash talk with opposing fans? Yes.
Do lots of programs negatively recruit? I'm sure.

But the "Everybody does it defense" does not apply to the Paterno atrocity. Don't suggest that every program has a 40 year conspiracy to keep a child molester under wraps orchestrated by a hypocrite that sold himself as the moral example of a nation. Nothing else comes close.

Certainly not what got SMU the death penalty back in the day. That was just money and cheating.The Bernie Fine creepiness at Cuse and Pitno table top shenanigans are really small potatoes relatively speaking. Even the the Baylor player being murdered, though hideous, but was basically an isolated incident.
Our guy throwing a basketball and screaming? Sending emails to professors? Wrong and we removed them. But no comparison.
 
Are we talking about trash talk with opposing fans? Yes.
Do lots of programs negatively recruit? I'm sure.

But the "Everybody does it defense" does not apply to the Paterno atrocity. Don't suggest that every program has a 40 year conspiracy to keep a child molester under wraps orchestrated by a hypocrite that sold himself as the moral example of a nation. Nothing else comes close.

Certainly not what got SMU the death penalty back in the day. That was just money and cheating.The Bernie Fine creepiness at Cuse and Pitno table top shenanigans are really small potatoes relatively speaking. Even the the Baylor player being murdered, though hideous, but was basically an isolated incident.
Our guy throwing a basketball and screaming? Sending emails to professors? Wrong and we removed them. But no comparison.


Proof?

Why were 14 claims paid that were beyond the Statute of Limitations?
 
Are we talking about trash talk with opposing fans? Yes.
Do lots of programs negatively recruit? I'm sure.

But the "Everybody does it defense" does not apply to the Paterno atrocity. Don't suggest that every program has a 40 year conspiracy to keep a child molester under wraps orchestrated by a hypocrite that sold himself as the moral example of a nation. Nothing else comes close.

Certainly not what got SMU the death penalty back in the day. That was just money and cheating.The Bernie Fine creepiness at Cuse and Pitno table top shenanigans are really small potatoes relatively speaking. Even the the Baylor player being murdered, though hideous, but was basically an isolated incident.
Our guy throwing a basketball and screaming? Sending emails to professors? Wrong and we removed them. But no comparison.
You're preaching to the choir. My post wasn't meant to suggest that equivalents to the Paterno situation happen everywhere; It was meant to call out someone for criticizing posters for arguing with other fanbases on a message board.
 
Because those 14 kids were raped by a Penn State employee while Paterno was covering for him.

Wrong. Try again. The SOL is the exclusive remedy in Pennsylvania but the Trustees ignored it.

Reason?

And I already gave it to you.
 
Cultists should be careful of asking for proof. Every new disclosure requires additional mental gymnastics and a re-writing of your bullet points of evasion and excuses to support your fantasy world.

Just because Paterno was not indicted doesn't mean he's innocent in a legal or moral sense.

Don't ask me for proof. Just open you eyes and mind. Why aren't you seeking to have the University release all materials on the subject and stop hiding behind statute of limitations, attorney/client privilege and all the other weasel words that the shield the guilty.

Why aren't you fighting to strengthen PA's weak public disclosure laws?

Why aren't you petitioning the University to release all victims from the gag clauses in their settlements to allow them to speak openly about the suffering caused by a long tenure employee that used your football program the way other monsters use an ice cream cone or a puppy to lure in their victims. That'd be some proof right there.
 
Cultists should be careful of asking for proof. Every new disclosure requires additional mental gymnastics and a re-writing of your bullet points of evasion and excuses to support your fantasy world.

Just because Paterno was not indicted doesn't mean he's innocent in a legal or moral sense.

Don't ask me for proof. Just open you eyes and mind. Why aren't you seeking to have the University release all materials on the subject and stop hiding behind statute of limitations, attorney/client privilege and all the other weasel words that the shield the guilty.

Why aren't you fighting to strengthen PA's weak public disclosure laws?

Why aren't you petitioning the University to release all victims from the gag clauses in their settlements to allow them to speak openly about the suffering caused by a long tenure employee that used your football program the way other monsters use an ice cream cone or a puppy to lure in their victims. That'd be some proof right there.


Come back when you can prove what you fabricate.

Why doesn't the Commonwealth release the gag order on Curley, Schultz and Spanier?
 
You're preaching to the choir. My post wasn't meant to suggest that equivalents to the Paterno situation happen everywhere; It was meant to call out someone for criticizing posters for arguing with other fanbases on a message board.
I didn't criticize other posters. You guy get way too defensive. You don't want to hear it because it comes from someone who is a fan of another team. I just think this issue is talked about way too much. Now I know you guys love it and its part of the culture of the forum. You can talk about rape victims all you want if that satisfy you. Its your board. Have fun.
 
Wrong. Try again. The SOL is the exclusive remedy in Pennsylvania but the Trustees ignored it.

Reason?

And I already gave it to you.

You just can't see the facts because of you worship a guy who coached a kids' game on Saturdays. Paterno protected a child rapist for decades and dozens of kids were raped because of it. That's reality.
 
I didn't criticize other posters. You guy get way too defensive. You don't want to hear it because it comes from someone who is a fan of another team. I just think this issue is talked about way too much. Now I know you guys love it and its part of the culture of the forum. You can talk about rape victims all you want if that satisfy you. Its your board. Have fun.
"You can talk about rape victims all you want if that satisfy you. Its your board. Have fun."
Seems like you are bound and determined to keep this thread alive.
If it upsets you so much, why are you helping to make sure the conversation about what Franklin said continues.
This thread wouldn't be as active without your input of : "me no like "in one reply and "me no like have fun in others".

Money : If you feel I'm criticizing you , you are right about that.
But consider it constructive criticism because I'm only trying to help you to stop the talk you don't like and let this thread die .
Remember you are one of the reasons it is staying alive by your constant whining about what's being discussed and failing to recognize this thread is about a current event > Penn St's FB HC saying 0n July 24,2016: “These things are going to be going on for a number of years, and my focus needs to be on the things I can control. That’s not one of them. “For me, answering questions about things that happened 40 years ago when I was 4 years old, I don’t know if that, necessarily, is the best use of my time.”
When asked about a petition to bring back Paterno's statue and testimony about Paterno
knowing about Sandusky being a child molester 40 years ago because of recent disclosures claiming that. Paterno knew.

You rant and rave, but refuse to see why this thread was started.
Then when you do seem to have decided to end your involvement, you come back again
whining about what Rutgers fans are discussing.
You want this thread to end, consider this option:
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Why doesn't the Commonwealth release the gag order on Curley, Schultz and Spanier?

Why are you asking me? Why don't you ask associate member of the cult and noted "Friend of Joe" Tom Corbett, . Couldn't be he has anything to hide?
 
You just can't see the facts because of you worship a guy who coached a kids' game on Saturdays. Paterno protected a child rapist for decades and dozens of kids were raped because of it. That's reality.

Substantiate it.
 
Substantiate it.

It's been substantiated fro 5 years now. You are simply a mental case who doesn't want to admit that Paterno's actions allowed dozens of children to get raped. No amount of proof will ever make you change your mind. Again, reality is that Paterno allowed dozens of children to get raped. Period. No amount of metal gymnastics by the cult members can ever change what Paterno did in his life. Dozens of children were raped because Paterno made it possible.
 
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I think a better question is why Paterno did what he did. He had a few potential motives. He did get very rich while at Penn State so maybe money was the factor? He did become a living God at Penn State to the cult so maybe he covered for Sandusky out of ego? Or was Paterno just a sick pervert himself who got off on kids getting raped? I honestly don't know, maybe the Penn State visitors to our board can explain what turned Paterno into such a sick, repulsive, f**k?
 
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biacto said:
Substantiate it.
It's been substantiated fro 5 years now. You are simply a mental case who doesn't want to admit that Paterno's actions allowed dozens of children to get raped. No amount of proof will ever make you change your mind. Again, reality is that Paterno allowed dozens of children to get raped. Period. No amount of metal gymnastics by the cult members can ever change what Paterno did in his life. Dozens of children were raped because Paterno made it possible.
"Substantiate it."
Ok:
The 1976 victim, identified in court records as John Doe 150, said that while he was attending a football camp at Penn State, Sandusky touched him as he showered. Sandusky’s finger penetrated the boy’s rectum, Doe said, and the boy asked to speak with Paterno about it. Doe testified that he specifically told Paterno that Sandusky had sexually assaulted him, and Paterno ignored it.
 
It's been substantiated fro 5 years now. You are simply a mental case who doesn't want to admit that Paterno's actions allowed dozens of children to get raped. No amount of proof will ever make you change your mind. Again, reality is that Paterno allowed dozens of children to get raped. Period. No amount of metal gymnastics by the cult members can ever change what Paterno did in his life. Dozens of children were raped because Paterno made it possible.


You are alleging.

Submit the evidence.
 
biacto said:
Substantiate it.

"Substantiate it."
Ok:
The 1976 victim, identified in court records as John Doe 150, said that while he was attending a football camp at Penn State, Sandusky touched him as he showered. Sandusky’s finger penetrated the boy’s rectum, Doe said, and the boy asked to speak with Paterno about it. Doe testified that he specifically told Paterno that Sandusky had sexually assaulted him, and Paterno ignored it.
Does that make it fact? No doubt Sandusky had victims but that doesn't mean every one who claims to be one is one. Any time there is a chance to get money people are willing to lie. We seen it with 9/11, Boston Marathon ect. If you have a company willing to pay just to make things go away your have people who may not tell the truth.

I doubt this account for several reasons. Every other victim has said Sandusky groomed his victims and often over a years time. In this case he did not even know the kid and just randomly stuck his finger in a guys rectum in a shower in front of multiple coaches and other campers. Not one can corroborate his story and one coach he claimed was in there was not even employed at Penn State at the time. He said he told multiple campers, coaches and Paterno but was to embarrassed to tell his own coaches, friends or parents.
 
biacto said:
Substantiate it.

"Substantiate it."
Ok:
The 1976 victim, identified in court records as John Doe 150, said that while he was attending a football camp at Penn State, Sandusky touched him as he showered. Sandusky’s finger penetrated the boy’s rectum, Doe said, and the boy asked to speak with Paterno about it. Doe testified that he specifically told Paterno that Sandusky had sexually assaulted him, and Paterno ignored it.


It never happened because every other kid stated they did not shower where 150 said but enclosed stalls in another part of campus.
 
Guys, biacto is a new name that links to several other user names from that scandal-tainted cesspool in central PA.
 
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It never happened because every other kid stated they did not shower where 150 said but enclosed stalls in another part of campus.
You think the fact every kid that came in contact with the PSU football program was not raped proves any one in particular was not?
 
You are alleging.

Submit the evidence.

You never answered my question. I'll repeat it for you.

I think a better question is why Paterno did what he did. He had a few potential motives. He did get very rich while at Penn State so maybe money was the factor? He did become a living God at Penn State to the cult so maybe he covered for Sandusky out of ego? Or was Paterno just a sick pervert himself who got off on kids getting raped? I honestly don't know, maybe the Penn State visitors to our board can explain what turned Paterno into such a sick, repulsive, f**k?

Please answer this question.
 
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You never answered my question. I'll repeat it for you.

I think a better question is why Paterno did what he did. He had a few potential motives. He did get very rich while at Penn State so maybe money was the factor? He did become a living God at Penn State to the cult so maybe he covered for Sandusky out of ego? Or was Paterno just a sick pervert himself who got off on kids getting raped? I honestly don't know, maybe the Penn State visitors to our board can explain what turned Paterno into such a sick, repulsive, f**k?

Please answer this question.


There was no covering.

He didn't get rich from being a low paying Coach.

Tell us who was raped, and provide the evidence.
 
There was no covering.

He didn't get rich from being a low paying Coach.

Tell us who was raped, and provide the evidence.

You only answered one part of my question. So your answer is that Paterno didn't protect Sandusky for money but he either protected the child rapist for his own ego or because Paterno himself got off on children getting raped. Thank you for your honesty in acknowledging why you personally believe Paterno covered up for the rapes of dozens of children while he protected the child rapist. Can you please pass your answer on to the other cult followers now that you have accepted the truth about your one time personal god.
 
Beat them on the field. Thats how you get back at teams you don't respect. Talking about how bad this situation is doesn't win games. So what they deny it? Talk about rutgers. Its a lot of positive things going at Rutgers but a lot of posters want to focus on the negative and bring up sandusky on every mention of penn st. Does it make you guys feel better about yourselves? They are so bad and Rutgers are so good. Look at us. lol. Every school has issues or had bad things happen. Some worse than others. There's bad things that get cover up that you never hear about. Happens everywhere. Yes is happens in Syracuse too. Doesnt bother me because we all have our problems. The world has problems. I know there is Penn st poster that comment alot but I see way more rutgers fans taking shots. Its non stop
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You only answered one part of my question. So your answer is that Paterno didn't protect Sandusky for money but he either protected the child rapist for his own ego or because Paterno himself got off on children getting raped. Thank you for your honesty in acknowledging why you personally believe Paterno covered up for the rapes of dozens of children while he protected the child rapist. Can you please pass your answer on to the other cult followers now that you have accepted the truth about your one time personal god.


You didn't answer my question.

Substantiate who was raped and where and how Paterno knew.
 
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