Win a single Big Ten game. Doesn't matter which one. Just one. Otherwise, Ash will be nothing but a placeholder for the next guy. Won't be a question of if but when.
Onward.
Onward.
So if he goes 2-10/1-8 that will be a successful season to you?Win a single Big Ten game. Doesn't matter which one. Just one. Otherwise, Ash will be nothing but a placeholder for the next guy. Won't be a question of if but when.
Onward.
I think that success for Rutgers is now defined by how few points they can lose by. I cannot wait to see the post game interview.So if he goes 2-10/1-8 that will be a successful season to you?
Absolutely not. But he needs SOMETHING to hang his hat on. You cannot hang your hat on a moral victory. He needs at least one VICTORY to show at least someone modicum of competence. Otherwise we will get years of "shocking power" recruiting and the only thing we'll be talking about is who's brave enough to come in and right the ship.So if he goes 2-10/1-8 that will be a successful season to you?
When you're 0-9 one year, 1-8 is a step up. A baby step, but a step.
If that one win is against PSU, then yes.So if he goes 2-10/1-8 that will be a successful season to you?
Hahahaha Beat Penn State. We'll have 100,000 cultists laughing at us.If that one win is against PSU, then yes.
One can dream.Hahahaha Beat Penn State. We'll have 100,000 cultists laughing at us.
Rutgers does not deserve Rutgers does not deserve to have a winning program with fancier think like this.Win a single Big Ten game. Doesn't matter which one. Just one. Otherwise, Ash will be nothing but a placeholder for the next guy. Won't be a question of if but when.
Onward.
Win a single Big Ten game. Doesn't matter which one. Just one. Otherwise, Ash will be nothing but a placeholder for the next guy. Won't be a question of if but when.
Onward.
dont hold your breathAbsolutely not. But he needs SOMETHING to hang his hat on. You cannot hang your hat on a moral victory. He needs at least one VICTORY to show at least someone modicum of competence. Otherwise we will get years of "shocking power" recruiting and the only thing we'll be talking about is who's brave enough to come in and right the ship.
That won't do it.
Look at the dropoff that is next year's class.....keeping a 2-10 Coach will see Recruiting nosedive to rock bottom.
Only problem with that is we play psu in Crappy Valley.The Stadium attendance will get worse as the season goes on with the exception of Penn St.as they travel great.
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Very likely, but that's why I agree with OP. Win one B1G game - and you finish 2-10. Not good, but at least on paper, you're not trending downwards anymore. Continue to buy time to get the talent on the roster better and deeper.I see 1-11
They are speaking of when Penn State comes here next year. It will be how I remember PSU/Rutgers games at Giants Stadium in the 90s where they outnumbered us 2 to 1.Only problem with that is we play psu in Crappy Valley.
HUH? He said the attendance will get worse as the season progresses, no one in the entire thread said anything about next yearThey are speaking of when Penn State comes here next year. It will be how I remember PSU/Rutgers games at Giants Stadium in the 90s where they outnumbered us 2 to 1.
I was a year ahead of you on this one. Didn't get season tickets for the first time in many years.I hate to say it but my wife and i have been going 15 years now. and today after this game for the first time i uttered i think i can't take it anymore, i may not be renewing after this year
when when has he shown that he can coach? He didn't forget how to coach I'm not sure you ever could coach.It's never as good or as bad as you all think. The idea that this is on coaching is false... ash and kill haven't forgotten how to coach. Were just not as good. I watch other games and I see athletes that can pull away and standout... we don't seem to have anybody worth a damn that can do that on offense.
YupI hate to say it but my wife and i have been going 15 years now. and today after this game for the first time i uttered i think i can't take it anymore, i may not be renewing after this year
oh come on.... dude coached a D to a natty title. Meyer doesn't let scrubs hang around. You are just being a little B if you keep hanging this on coaching. Its the players..we need better players, and we need more money to get them. Thats all this is.when when has he shown that he can coach? He didn't forget how to coach I'm not sure you ever could coach.
So explain how EMu got their players? Theirs seemed good enough to beat us.oh come on.... dude coached a D to a natty title. Meyer doesn't let scrubs hang around. You are just being a little B if you keep hanging this on coaching. Its the players..we need better players, and we need more money to get them. Thats all this is.
said this somewhere else this evening but...oh come on.... dude coached a D to a natty title. Meyer doesn't let scrubs hang around. You are just being a little B if you keep hanging this on coaching. Its the players..we need better players, and we need more money to get them. Thats all this is.
i mean are you 5 years old? Pay attention to RU. You know how bad things were last year. You know the roster is being overhauled. 5th year seniors brought in as stop gaps to let the young guys grow. It take time, and years of consistency to get better. If you guys keep firing coaches every 2 years we might as well tear down the stadium. Does this loss suck, yes! But its no different than any other shity lose in a long history of shitty losses. EMU is probably on the better end of the spectrum.So explain how EMu got their players? Theirs seemed good enough to beat us.
and you state that as if we're a top 30 team who just lost to a 120... we're probably a mid 80 team now that just lost to a mid 70 team in close game where there were tons of opportunities to win and lose. Last week we overachieved, this week we sucked and it cost us big time.said this somewhere else this evening but...
The talent argument carries weight when RU loses to the likes of Ohio State or Michigan. It does not hold up when we lose, at home, to Eastern Michigan.
Coaching is an issue.
and you state that as if we're a top 30 team who just lost to a 120... we're probably a mid 80 team now that just lost to a mid 70 team in close game where there were tons of opportunities to win and lose. Last week we overachieved, this week we sucked and it cost us big time.
my problem is that i'm sick of all you little whiney Bs running around. Don't take credit away from EMU them. They beat us because they were better. We still suck, face it. But i'm not going to act like i'm 5 years old and George Steinbrenner everyone when things dont go our way. It takes time, and patience. I've always said year 3 is when i have real expectations for Ash. He may not be the guy, but i'm not going to give up on him after the crap he inherited. This is a total rebuild.What's your problem. Your making excuses for our loss. EMU doesn't have half our resources but put together a decent team. Answer that.
yeah i guess kill sucks too. You guys will fire anybody who loses a single game. its insaneThere's no acceptable excuse for this loss, except the coaching : Period