Like I stated, this could have all been laid out in the closed-door amicable split request. Your school chose to deny that meeting and not participate in the process. Why? I thought they did everything they could by granting the release like you stated in previous posts.
I was under the impression Mr. Suriano (without Nick) met with Cael and PSU officials. Is that not the case?
If Ryan Dunleavy was a better journalist he'd have added "Sources close to Rutgers say" to his "Penn State officials refused a closed-doors request for an amicable split" framing that you're taking as fact. Just like Dunleavy's previous story on the issue, he's assuming a lot about a process which is unknown to to readers, including him, instead of being skeptical about getting his entire story from one side who were clearly trying to game the optics.
That piece of info came from one of your own who also said he had Nick's paper work on his desk. That guys now banned so I can't bring up the post. I like how you guys work, one guy brings up a fabricated piece of info then you use it as fact.
And all I'm saying is I have two sources to base my argument on. Bill's account who's close to the program and has been spot on in many instances in the past. However none of you would know that since it's pretty much the 1st time here for all of you, then NJ.com and their sources. Both sources are comparable in their reporting. You and others have exactly 0 sources for your information and just speculation no matter how you frame it.
Your source has an inherent bias, being close to the program, and your source is also all over the place. It makes zero sense that PSU could simultaneously not know the nature of the waiver request and have been otherwise in a position to sit down and 'work things out amicably,' never mind the suspect assumption that PSU ever held any sway over the B1G in this matter. Again, all the publicly available info is coming from one side, and as I've pointed out, there are likely prudent institutional reasons the other side can't, so I'm going to take all stories emanating from that one side with much salt.
So then you think it's one big conspiracy concocted by RU wrestling, NJ.com( a media outlet not known to be friendly to RU) and Bill? All three devised this whole plan and now set the devious proceeding in motion to deceive the public into thinking Cael Sanderson and psu are evil and don't care about kids. That's really what your going to go with. You guys have learned nothing over there.
Well that's certainly moving the goal posts quite a bit. I think it was pretty obvious the Surianos and/or Rutgers were telling slanted story to Dunleavy in that the "rubber stamp" characterization is laughable given all that is known about B1G intra-conference transfers. So no, not a conspiracy, just how journalism typically works when one side gets to tell their story without challenge or skepticism.
Sorry, got cutoff. You are really a jerk and if anyone has no credibility it is you. You just want to pick a fight and are a know it all. Please leave and never return! And ignore now goes on for you bc it is a big waste of time reading anything you contribute.
Conspiracy definition- a secret plan by a group to do something harmful. the action of plotting or conspiring
No, the purpose was to generate sympathy in pursuit of a waiver, not harm PSU. And I don't pretend to know the underlying facts here, but you don't know them either. But what is ascertainable enough is that the Surianos and/or Rutgers were telling an incomplete side of the story, else we'd know the basis. And that's their prerogative, it's probably in Nick's best interests to not disclose anything. Frame it however it's most convenient for you, but if you employed a minimal degree of critical thinking you'd put your own biases aside and recognize spin for what it is. And no, spin isn't conspiracy, it's simply what occurs in any adversarial matter.
Yeah Its such spin that the committee ruled unanimously in his favor. Ok. Keep believing whatever your saying to yourself. Bc the committee would only rule on Spin not facts. You guys are unbelievable.
So it's not a conspiracy rather spin. You have to be kidding me. Where do you come up with this stuff? Your really starting to grasp at straws here, to prove your point. Do you guys take a class over there, you sound like one of the many drones who come here. You guys really need to start coming up with a new defense you've used this one way too many times already.
I think you nailed it nolanpa. Whenever it's against psu you need legal documentation but for psu you just need critical thinking(logic).
He'll provide that just as soon as you provide documentation that Harbaugh offered anything other than a release to Ahmir Mitchell. Still waiting.
You're just being a dick. I've shown nothing but respect since visiting this site. I've thanked Bill countless times for his knowledge and insight. That being said, I asked a legitimate question. Had I known where or through whom I gained the idea that there was an actual meeting between the two sides, I probably wouldn't have asked. You want some advice? Don't treat everyone that visits your site with contempt or continue to be disrespectful. I'm sure you'd be surprised what you can learn through other fanbases. You have a dead board modt of the time. That's just fact. Don't make it worse by pushing away real fans that like serious discussion. Of course I could be wrong and you guys enjoy talking to yourself and the handful of people that post here. In that case have at being a dick.
Sorry Johnstown, didn't mean to come off as a d*ck. However, your fellow psu posters have been coming fast and furious at us over here. If you don't expect us to defend our board then I don't know what to tell you. Them going after Bill was uncalled for. So I'm going to defend my fellow RU posters and school, you would do the same.
Excellent post and right on all accounts. I won't lie and say I'm not interested in finding out the specifics behind the decision but I've accepted it and will certainly move on. My team is now a powerhouse winning titles. I'd be dumb to let one wrestler leaving spoil any of that for me. Here's to a strong Rutgers program and growth of the sport!
Matter, I just wrote something on a sheet of paper that may or may not implicate you were in the wrong about something. Do you support it?
Hey Matter read this ^^ again. Suriano is not at PSU anymore, it doesn't "matter" how or why it just is.
In sum: PSU were being dicks when they didn't agree to support the application they weren't allowed to read.
