"....we have no idea what punishment would be fair, but what ever was done was not enough and more needs to be done --- we just don't know what "more" is.... SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!"
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The Faculty has issued a "public rebuke" of Flood
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"....we have no idea what punishment would be fair, but what ever was done was not enough and more needs to be done --- we just don't know what "more" is.... SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!"
Our faculty sucks. They are doing more harm than Flood ever could.
They need to collectively be held accountable for our ranking continuing to fall. Enough is enough.
They need to collectively be held accountable for our ranking continuing to fall. Enough is enough.
Let's give Flood and the faculty long term extensions and see who winds up with the better record, lol...Flood is a mediocre coach that broke many rules to win games...
Hughes complained that Flood used his status as a millionaire coach to intimidate a lowly part-time professor. Hughes totally misrepresents the situation. If you think Flood's actions imply some level of sinister act then you really are buying into the hype. He never coerced the instructor to change a grade. While his communications appear desperate, he should be judged by his results, not for some violation of a school policy that was never formally disseminated to the Atheletic Department employees.
It is wishful thinking to believe Flood will be canned without severance. Rutgers had no formal training program in place for atheletic department policies and procedures. You cannot get fired for violating policies/procedures for which you have no documented training. One of the recommendations that came from the external council's report is to establish a formal, documented training program.
Next thing we'll be hearing is, "Flood lied, people died". This shit is so overblown and the gullible public over reacts.
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Don't forget Joe Calebrese, the most beloved SL Rutgers beat writer! God took him too early. He should have been here to see the realization of our entry into the B1G (my father too).
Tenured full professors are the highest paid in the nation, yet the results don't support their high salaries. Why does Rutgers lag behind it's peers despite the benefits of location, high quality students and wealth?
Actually, rankings that give significant weight to what TT and tenured faculty at an R1 institution actually do rate us quite highly.
That is a lot of bottled-up hate that you have. God bless you. May you find peace someday.
Leave it to the professors to be 1-2 weeks behing the general public in their feeling about the program!!!! Way to try to stir some controvery Star-Loser- beat a dead horse often.
WOAH!!! That's something I did not know - this should have been handed off to another jurisdiction as it was a conflict of interest.
I admire the faculty for taking a strong position that supports the academic integrity of the university. Flood is largely responsible for making RU a national laughingstock both on and off the football field. I don't disagree with anything in the faculty resolution. Flood needs to go now!
You are reacting to a totally irresponsible and likely slanderous statement by Extra Point.
They issued a 'public rebuke'? C'mon faculty--grow a pair and issue a Fatwah against the football program! Further more, if 8 of you protesting was enough to get Condi Rice to cancel her invitation to commencement, then why don't your Gang of 8 show up at a football game chanting 'Death to Football, Death to Football"?
AAAAaaaa yea what he said. Let's do this. What's your plan. Let's see professor's already one of the tops in pay. Now coaches bottom 10% let's get them some more money what do ya say. So they can be on par with their peers just like the faculty.
RU has reviewed the situation and issued its punishment to Coach Flood for his offense. That should be the end of it and RU should stick to that. The faculty just piling on at this late hour and demanding more is "disturbing" but par for the course where RU athletics is involved. RU has shown in the past its inability to control a brush fire and if people keep a story going RU tends to "re-think" things and cave. As I've said in other threads, RU athletics has a "kick me" sign taped to its back and we let it remain there, inviting people to keep kicking.
The faculty is reveling in this. They want Flood fired. Then when that happens and we search for the next coach the faculty and SL will scream and yell about the salary that will have to be paid and the cost of the football program. Then we'll cave and go cheap again and we'll repeat the cycle that brought us KF and Mike Rice. And the beat will go on.
We are in the Big Ten. Start acting like it.
The faculty is reveling in this. They want Flood fired. Then when that happens and we search for the next coach the faculty and SL will scream and yell about the salary that will have to be paid and the cost of the football program. Then we'll cave and go cheap again and we'll repeat the cycle that brought us KF and Mike Rice. And the beat will go on.
We are in the Big Ten. Start acting like it.
The kick me sign starts with the punishment. Miss 3 games / no media for 3 weeks.
This punishment made the story carry on for the 3 weeks - ensuring the issue is mentioned at each game.
There were really 3 choices:
1. Fire him
2. Slap him on the wrist
3. Fine and 1 game penalty
The PR problems are internal - leaks and punishments that last for weeks.
This punishment made the story carry on for the 3 weeks - ensuring the issue is mentioned at each game.
There were really 3 choices:
1. Fire him
2. Slap him on the wrist
3. Fine and 1 game penalty
The PR problems are internal - leaks and punishments that last for weeks.
I don't think the faculty council is representative of the faculty. It's true the council members are picked by the individual units,but those who run tend to be from a small self-selected group of activists whose politics are not in the mainstream. Don't tar the whole faculty with what the council does.
Good god, please go cheer for another team, because you're the kind of miserable soul that no one wants to be around.
I must have missed where the faculty's political views have anything to do with Flood's slap on the wrist for serious rule breaking that has harmed the school as a whole.
Did the faculty rebuke this?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/spe...le-must-consider-themselves-face#.o3tkha:YEj0
-Scarlet Jerry
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/spe...le-must-consider-themselves-face#.o3tkha:YEj0
-Scarlet Jerry
I agree that this is not a political thing. However, it's arguable how serious the "rule breaking" was. And I guess I'm not quite sure how the school was harmed by Flood's actions. The football program was harmed for sure, but the school?
I think you may be confusing their petulant, faux outrage over Flood's effort to breach their ivy-covered walls in order to keep an alleged criminal academically eligible with your own petulant, faux outrage over Flood not giving snaps to his second-string quarterback.
Yes. The school's reputation is called into question when a coach decides to put his disdain for compliance with it into writing.
Ah, ahhh, aaaaahhHH BULLSHIT! Pardon me. Must be hay fever season.
So anyway, you're so right - RU's reputation is totally ruined. We should probably burn the entire school to the ground. Flood ruined Rutgers forever by overstepping his bounds in his effort to help out a player on the team.
While we're at it, let's rip up the NJ Turnpike. I was out there the other day and I saw an estimated 95% pure disdain for speed limit compliance. Oh wait, you're going to tell me that Flood trying to help out a player is worse than people creating a potentially deadly situation on the highway. My bad.
Wait, we're not done yet. We have to burn down every building in every state with a sales tax. Because at least one person in each such state has failed to report and pay sales tax on items purchased over the internet. Such disdain for compliance.
Now that I think about it, disdain for compliance with the 10 commandments is at an all-time high. The planet's reputation is beyond repair. Guess we have to burn the whole damn thing.
People with your attitude are the precise reason why things just to crap because you have no standard for anything.
My guess is
50% would support any HC because they view college football like intramurals, and/or they did not attend RU so don't care about the reputation of the school
25% Friends and family of Flood
25% Friends and family of James Franklin/flaming/contrarianism
Not true at all. I obviously have a standard for how much I can take of listening to you bitch and moan and make everybody as miserable as you. For the love of all that's good; give it a freaking rest already.
The faculty is helping lower our school ranking to never before seen levels.
They are doing more harm than Flood ever could.
They are doing more harm than Flood ever could.
I'm not going to demonize the entire faculty. But the whack jobs in the faculty that are publicly airing the school's dirty laundry are doing way, way, way more harm to the school's reputation than Flood.
Do they have some legitimate gripes and concerns? Sure they do. But it's an internal family matter. It does no good for RU to make it national news.
No no.. Those dirty numbers and facts are in the way again!
http://news.rutgers.edu/news-releas...-universities-according-center-world/20140716
Rutgers University-New Brunswick has been ranked 33rd among the world’s top 1,000 universities this year by the Center for World University Rankings – marking a dramatic rise in the ranking of the university’s flagship campus.
Whoops!
Yes who needs to be 33rd in the world when Flood is writing emails saying I'm breaking rules for a drunk driver who breaks jaws when we haven't had player get ineligible in a decade!
