..: at the whole "Meyer Mafia." Don't get me wrong...I am glad to see Mehringer go. But was Ash so blind as to see he wouldn't jump for a better opportunity in Texas? Oh, but Ash excuses it because Herman is a Meyer disciple like he is? Maybe it's time for Ash to stop tying his fate to the Meyer tree and make his own destiny.
The more I think about Mehringer...I get mad
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Ash needs to be able to see into the future.
Whole lot of silly and misinformation in OP's post. You have no idea how Ash feels about it.
Yes I do. I thought that Ash was following the Meyer rule of having to stay two years. Obviously doesn't apply to anyone going to another Meyer disciple.
Mehringer's comments today (now, he's obviously excited to go back home to be Herman's lap dog, but does anyone think he could have even slightly tipped his cap to Ash and Rutgers by saying, "I appreciate the opportunity I was given by Rutgers and Coach Ash. I left behind a tremendous group of coaches and staff. But this is home for me.") Kind of douchey:
"As somebody who has been born and raised in the greatest state and greatest place in the world, the opportunity to be back here, to be back near family, to be working with a group of guys I know really well and love and are great football coaches and great men, it's incredible," Mehringer said in a statement.
"The fact that I get to do that here at The University of Texas, a place that we all grew up as high school players and kids with our eyes on the burnt orange, is something I don't know that I could have ever passed up. So for me, I'm tremendously excited."
"The guys on this staff are tremendous football coaches," Mehringer said. "I think the dynamic within this staff is incredible, it's unlike one I've ever been a part of. They are great people and a lot of fun to be around.
"I think we all have the same vision for what we want the program to look like, the staff dynamic to look like. That's driven and led by Coach Herman. Because we have such great quality character people on staff, I think everyone falls into alignment and makes the transition from one program to another really easy."
"As somebody who has been born and raised in the greatest state and greatest place in the world, the opportunity to be back here, to be back near family, to be working with a group of guys I know really well and love and are great football coaches and great men, it's incredible," Mehringer said in a statement.
"The fact that I get to do that here at The University of Texas, a place that we all grew up as high school players and kids with our eyes on the burnt orange, is something I don't know that I could have ever passed up. So for me, I'm tremendously excited."
"The guys on this staff are tremendous football coaches," Mehringer said. "I think the dynamic within this staff is incredible, it's unlike one I've ever been a part of. They are great people and a lot of fun to be around.
"I think we all have the same vision for what we want the program to look like, the staff dynamic to look like. That's driven and led by Coach Herman. Because we have such great quality character people on staff, I think everyone falls into alignment and makes the transition from one program to another really easy."
Great point. I take back that I said Mehringer was a nice guy.
Coaches always say the hardest thing about a new job is finding other coaches available - the best ones not usually being on the market. Add to that Ash had to go deep into the season with OSU. I'm not sure Ash had a lot to chose from but he no doubt liked Mehringer (seems a lot of people do aside from here). Coaches also prefer to hire who they trust so no surprise Ash coaches come from the same roots. I don't know what Ash demands of coaches. I know Meyer wants at least two years. He gets coaches picked off every year. Maybe Ash isn't all that unhappy with Mehringer going away. Hard to speculate.
I would bet Ash had something to do with this as a way to for Mehringer to save face. I would bet that Ash and Herman talked about this before the offer was made to Mehringer. Herman and Ash have a previous relationship too. The coaching profession is insetuous. This is a win win for everyone as long as RU is able to replace him with someone more qualified.
Ehh, I wasn't trying to demonize him. Maybe they did not get his entire statement. But a small modicum of gratitude to your former employer who went out on a huge limb to give you an enormous opportunity would not have been out of order. Millenials.
Also might not be as much as a better opportunity than as a face saving move with help from his mentor
He might be named passing coordinator and given an in name only co:OC position to make his cutting and running ( gentle bump out the door by Ash?) to Texas seem like an upgrad , but in reality he couldn't handle the RU OC position and needed to leave so Herman took him in to protect Drew's potentially bright future..
Anybody who watched his press conferences could tell he is kind of douchey
Was amazing how he always seemed to blame talent , but not himself
This is the part of his statement that kind of bugs me the most:
"I think the dynamic within this staff is incredible, it's unlike one I've ever been a part of. They are great people and a lot of fun to be around. .......
Because we have such great quality character people on staff, I think everyone falls into alignment and makes the transition from one program to another really easy."
Ahh, youngsters. With all of 12 hours under his belt, he is hollering from the mountain top that the staff is "unlike one I've ever been part of" and "everyone falls into alignment."
Let's pump the breaks a bit, Drew and see how it goes if the going gets tough.
And again, to not even tip your cap to Coach Ash and RU is douchey. Reading between the lines, kind of almost sounds like he did not fit in at RU.
"I think the dynamic within this staff is incredible, it's unlike one I've ever been a part of. They are great people and a lot of fun to be around. .......
Because we have such great quality character people on staff, I think everyone falls into alignment and makes the transition from one program to another really easy."
Ahh, youngsters. With all of 12 hours under his belt, he is hollering from the mountain top that the staff is "unlike one I've ever been part of" and "everyone falls into alignment."
Let's pump the breaks a bit, Drew and see how it goes if the going gets tough.
And again, to not even tip your cap to Coach Ash and RU is douchey. Reading between the lines, kind of almost sounds like he did not fit in at RU.
It also makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes in the program. If Mehringer doesn't fit in what about the other coaches from all those Midwest areas?
I don't wonder about this at all.
Looking at it objectively.
Mehringer has had 5 jobs in 5 years.
He is chasing contentment, but he is too young to know what that is.
He has been shown a lot of love and has been told he is some kind of prodigy, especially by Herman.
He's from Texas.
He had an opportunity to take a step back in responsibility, go back home and work under his mentor.
For his personal growth and development, he needs to stay put for 3 years unless Herman promotes him internally.
Don't wish him ill will. Just would advise him to not burn his bridges.
As far as others on Ash's staff, I see alignment. Drew was the one who fit in the least.
It's kind of interesting to some of us, and it is fair to wonder if he jumped at the opportunity, was feeling some pressure at RU and was gently nudged, or if he and Ash mutually agreed this would be best. Don't really care, because the end result is the same. See it as a chance for an upgrade. Was not enamored with him.
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For everyone That is 'mad' he left...trust me its not a bad thing..he wasnt actualy a hit with the offense players and his results on the field ..were not showing any progress.
its possible he was too young to be an OC at this level and his age worked against him with the players in that postion as an OC....it wasnt working..and he knew it.
its possible he was too young to be an OC at this level and his age worked against him with the players in that postion as an OC....it wasnt working..and he knew it.
I am glad he left. It was clear he was not qualified and was clearly overmatched. I'm glad that he left and we didn't have to fire him. This move has saved us a lot of money.
Was he asked directly about Rutgers? If not I have ZERO issues with his comments.
Sounds like Drew wasn't that high on NJ. Ash probably understood that being from another region himself. That's ok. Personally I think Texas is the only genuinely ugly state and wouldn't like it there. Mexico lost the area because nobody wanted to live there and they recruited white southerners to move there.
I wouldn't read into his press conference too much, it was about Texas not Rutgers. I can't even remember what he said in his press conference when Ash hired him. I don't remember him mentioning Hermann and Huston.
It...is...a...job. Period. Wake the puck up, folks. Very rare is it that a coach ascends in a position to the point where that coach becomes synonymous with the school, and becomes, dare I say it, legendary. RU is a stepping stone job. If Ash succeeds here, he, too, will willingly and without hesitation move onto a more monied and more storied program. Or the NFL.
First, let's get one thing out of the way. Herman's not doing this as a favor to Ash. Herman's not going to jeopardize his dream job by hiring a failure at RU to help out a coaching buddy. He undoubtedly feels Mehringer is a quality hire. You don't think there are a number of great candidates who would jump at the chance of OC at Texas?????
While I don't pretend to know how Ash felt about the job Mehringer did, the only potential thing I can imagine going on is Ash didn't fire Drew outright to allow everybody to save face (Herman hiring a working OC, Drew not suffering the embarrassment of being fired, and RU saving some termination $$).
Yes, Mehringer should have thanked RU for the opportunity. It was low rent. But in the final analysis: who cares? It can never be a positive, and it may come back at him down the road. It';ll be interesting to see how he does at Texas. He won't able to complain about lack of talent.
Stepping stone job? Wow. First time I've ever heard about RU in that vein. With the exception of Schiano and his coaching tree, we've always been considered a graveyard for FB and MBB. Guess we're moving up!
While I don't pretend to know how Ash felt about the job Mehringer did, the only potential thing I can imagine going on is Ash didn't fire Drew outright to allow everybody to save face (Herman hiring a working OC, Drew not suffering the embarrassment of being fired, and RU saving some termination $$).
Yes, Mehringer should have thanked RU for the opportunity. It was low rent. But in the final analysis: who cares? It can never be a positive, and it may come back at him down the road. It';ll be interesting to see how he does at Texas. He won't able to complain about lack of talent.
Stepping stone job? Wow. First time I've ever heard about RU in that vein. With the exception of Schiano and his coaching tree, we've always been considered a graveyard for FB and MBB. Guess we're moving up!
again..because of his age it was hard for him in that role..it dosent need to be expanded on now..If other info comes out in off season then it may be clearer.
If I was viewed as the "boy genius" and my debut resulted in a product that was in the bottom 5% in the nation, I would probably seek a change that could yield a better track record/resume. Time to move on and hope for a better result.
Why do people always read so much into things that are meant to be taken as is? For many people from Texas -- a place I loathe and can't believe we fought not one but two wars to get and keep in the Union -- the University of Texas is the ONLY place to be.
I have zero issues with anything he had to say. He's probably giddy as hell and can barely get to sleep at night, he's so damn excited about this.
Many people who are not from New Jersey don't adapt well to it. If that has anything to do with anything, no big deal.
Either way, if you are the OC at the worst offense among P5 schools, and you get to take a position on the staff at the University of Texas, under a guy you apparently idolize, how do you NOT go? And how are you not like a kid who finds the most awesome present ever under the tree?
Let it go, folks. He's going to be a terrific coach -- someday, somewhere. That day is not today, and that place is not here.
I have zero issues with anything he had to say. He's probably giddy as hell and can barely get to sleep at night, he's so damn excited about this.
Many people who are not from New Jersey don't adapt well to it. If that has anything to do with anything, no big deal.
Either way, if you are the OC at the worst offense among P5 schools, and you get to take a position on the staff at the University of Texas, under a guy you apparently idolize, how do you NOT go? And how are you not like a kid who finds the most awesome present ever under the tree?
Let it go, folks. He's going to be a terrific coach -- someday, somewhere. That day is not today, and that place is not here.
Drew ran home to daddy because he couldn't hack-it in the real world. GTFO and don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way.....
and take that dumb-a$$ haircut with you.......
Ash gave DM way more responsibility and a bigger opportunity than Herman has in two different stops. But, DM rat-f'd CA the first chance he got. Now we know that every word that ever came out of DM's mouth was pure b.s.
and take that dumb-a$$ haircut with you.......
Ash gave DM way more responsibility and a bigger opportunity than Herman has in two different stops. But, DM rat-f'd CA the first chance he got. Now we know that every word that ever came out of DM's mouth was pure b.s.
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Yeah, he should have known Strong was getting fired and Herman named to replace him. If only he had a time machine.
You seem like a really good guy but when it comes to coaching stuff, you're a bit off the wall.
He took a chance on a young guy when there were other options available. Dm had a bad year and still left. Ash is responsible for that choice
Mehringer showed all the worldliness and sophistication of a 28-year-old. He should've gone out of his way to think Ash and records for the opportunity. He could've absolutely discussed his love for Texas while thinking the players who gave their all on the coaches who gave him the opportunity .
Some could label and classless but I think it's a function of youth and lack of sophistication. Either way it is an embarrassment for that type of behavior from one of the coordinators of the power five program. He was not ready, not prepared and not sophisticated enough for the job.
That all being said I think this whole situation reflects much worth on Drew than it does on Ash. Ash gave him an opportunity I was willing to let him grow in the position. Whether that was right or wrong is debatable but it clearly is an honorable thing to do rather than to can him. Drew did what was best for him or what he perceived is best for him whether or not it hurt coach that hired him or the program. His true colors showed through his actions and his statements.
That all being said we are in a far better place and experience coordinator could make the team competitive which is what we all seek he has done us a favor but definitely done it in a way that reflects poorly upon himself. Ash has to learn from this lesson or else if these will be numbered and not by his own choice. If he does not get a replacement for special teams that will now speak poorly of him. The special team coach seems like a solid and nice guy and could be utilized somewhere else in the program but he has no business coaching special-teams and by allowing him to continue Ash is making another error I hope this situation wakes ash up and he realizes he needs to get a competent staff not just those he believes he has aligned with from prior experience working together
Some could label and classless but I think it's a function of youth and lack of sophistication. Either way it is an embarrassment for that type of behavior from one of the coordinators of the power five program. He was not ready, not prepared and not sophisticated enough for the job.
That all being said I think this whole situation reflects much worth on Drew than it does on Ash. Ash gave him an opportunity I was willing to let him grow in the position. Whether that was right or wrong is debatable but it clearly is an honorable thing to do rather than to can him. Drew did what was best for him or what he perceived is best for him whether or not it hurt coach that hired him or the program. His true colors showed through his actions and his statements.
That all being said we are in a far better place and experience coordinator could make the team competitive which is what we all seek he has done us a favor but definitely done it in a way that reflects poorly upon himself. Ash has to learn from this lesson or else if these will be numbered and not by his own choice. If he does not get a replacement for special teams that will now speak poorly of him. The special team coach seems like a solid and nice guy and could be utilized somewhere else in the program but he has no business coaching special-teams and by allowing him to continue Ash is making another error I hope this situation wakes ash up and he realizes he needs to get a competent staff not just those he believes he has aligned with from prior experience working together
