Ash needs to go too. For the sad individual on this board--who will remain nameless--who criticized me for being a bad Rutgers fan...hear this loud and clear: in all of Rutgers sports, I'm a fan of Rutgers student athletes! I have never been a fan of a single Rutgers coach--ever! I am a fan of the students who play for my school. Coaches are employees. I do not support them (coaches). I can freely praise or criticize them because I have loyalty to the students who play for my school. Coaches are EMPLOYEES who get a salary. They can work at ANY institution. If I praise Ash or want him to leave Rutgers, that has nothing to do with me being a Rutgers fan. Rutgers has in my view a bad football coach in Ash. They have had a history of some terrible coaches...most recently Flood. That does not make me a bad fan because because I support the players 100 per cent. I have complete loyalty to the players who show integrity in their lives as Rutgers students. I do not have loyalty to ANY coach because they are paid employees. So my feelings about coaches have NOTHING to do with me being a Rutgers fan.
The more I think about Mehringer...I get mad
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He's not the OC. And it isn't clear whether he'll have play-calling responsibilities on gameday. The HC will oversee hos development. Texas offense will be fine and if they're not fine this next season, they will be very soon.
Akin to supporting our troops, but not supporting the Pentagon/White House's decision on how to use those troops. I've no problem with this view, but don't you think it's a bit early to judge Ash? He's a first-time HC and while he's flubbed a few assistant hires, I don't see a reason to get rid of him at this point based on on-the-field performance.
Old timer, Virginia had a new coach this year and they finished 2-10. They should fire him? They lost to richmond for crying out loud. We have little talent and I get on other boards and read stuff that shows you how bad talent is.
Whatever, his praise the Texas staff is pure PR speak. He is from Texas and super best friends with Herman, so when your best friend gets a HC at the holy Grail of Texas HC jobs and offers you? Yeah, no way in hell he is saying no to that.
Another thing, he had the worse stats here in Rutgers history. Many people wanted him gone, shouldn't you all be super happy now? Isn't this what you all wanted? According to this message board since the day he was hired by Ash, this news should have you all dancing in the streets!
Texas fans btw, understand that Flood left the cupboard bare, or burned it down as some said. So they don't blame him at all for the offense at Rutgers since he had very little to work with. In Texas they are loaded with 4 stars and can recruit whoever they want, so that shouldn't be an issue there.
Hopefully, Ash will hire someone that will make everyone not care about any of this nonsense.
Another thing, he had the worse stats here in Rutgers history. Many people wanted him gone, shouldn't you all be super happy now? Isn't this what you all wanted? According to this message board since the day he was hired by Ash, this news should have you all dancing in the streets!
Texas fans btw, understand that Flood left the cupboard bare, or burned it down as some said. So they don't blame him at all for the offense at Rutgers since he had very little to work with. In Texas they are loaded with 4 stars and can recruit whoever they want, so that shouldn't be an issue there.
Hopefully, Ash will hire someone that will make everyone not care about any of this nonsense.
First of all, in finding a new OC, it will be tough because he is limiting his
choices by demanding that one particular offensive system. Secondly
the new OC should be able to take full control of the offense,,
and tell Ash " I got the offense, worry about your specialty, the defense."
choices by demanding that one particular offensive system. Secondly
the new OC should be able to take full control of the offense,,
and tell Ash " I got the offense, worry about your specialty, the defense."
Ash said the opposite said he did a great job recruiting no and was key with Lewis and Bo . Not sure where you get your info but ash was quoted aSo saying this.
This board never disappoints. This thread sums up the total lack of football understanding our fans possess. Well done
He is excusing it in public but I guarantee behind closed doors he is pissed.
But yes Drew got in over his head and bailed.
Maybe Ash encouraged Mehringer to explore other opportunities after running the worst Offense in the NCAA... He's young and inexperienced and now has the opportunity to fill in his resume before trying OC again in the future.
It's been long argued that DM wasn't ready for this job. Personally, I don't know one way or the other.
What I do know is that we were shutout 4 times in blowout losses. We proved, in those games, completely unable to move the ball, and the OC was unable to adjust to something that might work. Time to move on.
The simple reason I'm happy he moved on is, he DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE. If he did, he would have thanked Ash for the opportunity, and accepted the challenge that he needed to be better. Maybe he grows into a hell of an OC, but won't miss him. To say it was a new system, and we don't yet have the players to run the system is legit, but a true "offensive genius" would have found a way to get some first downs, or, dare I say it, POINTS.
What I do know is that we were shutout 4 times in blowout losses. We proved, in those games, completely unable to move the ball, and the OC was unable to adjust to something that might work. Time to move on.
The simple reason I'm happy he moved on is, he DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE. If he did, he would have thanked Ash for the opportunity, and accepted the challenge that he needed to be better. Maybe he grows into a hell of an OC, but won't miss him. To say it was a new system, and we don't yet have the players to run the system is legit, but a true "offensive genius" would have found a way to get some first downs, or, dare I say it, POINTS.
It is clear because only 1 guy has play calling responsibility during a game outside of the HC that may or may not interject. Herman said that DM was an offensive genius when he recommended him to Ash. DM was probably pretty good with coming up with suggestions here and there when the staff was game planning before the games, but that didn't mean that he could call all aspects of a game live at this level when given the chance. That experiment was a bust. Hopefully this was a learning experience for him since he is stepping back from control.
Ugghhhh. Using the word "genius" to describe any sports coaching staff member is and always will be absurd. "Hero" is another word that's misused/misapplied way too often. Geniuses and heroes are few and far between, and non-existent in any pure sports sense. And now I'll step down from my soapbox...
Mehringer - is gone ... so he is now pretty much Drew who?
but in retrospect - Mehringer was basically on an open ended visiting 'fellowship' from Herman - a year ago Mehringer was ready for more responsibility - but Herman did not have a spot like that at the time - so sent him off to friend Ash for a 'fellowship' - Mehringer never would have left the state of Texas if Herman had been able to give him a larger role.
Herman gets Texas - needs lieutenants to staff the new management /coaching team - calls Mehringer back home.
He's gone - and at this point so what ... as they say, everybody is replaceable .. on to the next guy
but in retrospect - Mehringer was basically on an open ended visiting 'fellowship' from Herman - a year ago Mehringer was ready for more responsibility - but Herman did not have a spot like that at the time - so sent him off to friend Ash for a 'fellowship' - Mehringer never would have left the state of Texas if Herman had been able to give him a larger role.
Herman gets Texas - needs lieutenants to staff the new management /coaching team - calls Mehringer back home.
He's gone - and at this point so what ... as they say, everybody is replaceable .. on to the next guy
Recommendations from other Head Coaches to fill spots at RU always seem to bite us in the ass. Dick Anderson, Terry Shea, and Dean Mehringer all were busts. They all were universally bad and set this program back. I don't remember if there were others..
I'm still trying to get over the 450 grand, for a trainee. Imagine if Shea and the others
had that kind of money to spend?
I really don't think Ash encouraged him to leave. I recall that when he was hired he spoke to Urban's belief that you need to have continuity and loyalty with your staff. I thought that was one of the reasons Ash cited for hiring mostly folks that he's worked with in the past. I am sure that Ash recognized DM wasn't quite ready yet but I honestly believe that he was willing to stand by him and allow DM to develop and grow as the program improved.
Lesson learned for Ash. Here's the question though: does DM bailing after 1 year strengthen Ash's resolve to hire only those folks he knows or does he now determine that he just needs to hire the best guy.
Lesson learned for Ash. Here's the question though: does DM bailing after 1 year strengthen Ash's resolve to hire only those folks he knows or does he now determine that he just needs to hire the best guy.
BTW, Rossi was also supposed to be a genius. To quote Beavis and Butthead,"uh huh huh....words..."
you really think current coaches and departing coaches get anywhere bashing each other? never burn a bridge.This wasnt about recruiting.
According one poster here(I don't remember who), Rossi was DC in name only, and Frazier called the D. Maybe the mods can chime in on whether that is true or not. If it is, Rossi may have got a bad rap.
Herman will be running it and his prodigy will be thrown credit for the way Herman ran the offense.
Mehringer isn't going to be trusted running the Longhorn O or making major game day decisions.
He proved not ready for prime time at RU , now he's going to study at the foot of his mentor to be ready for an OC position in the future.
Inflation aside, IIRC, Shea didn't make 450 as a HC. His salary was 350-375 range I think.
He's NOT "running the Longhorn O." He's going to be the "PASSING game Coordinator/Co-OC." Difference.
Best of luck, Drew and thanks for the effort and work. I look forward to Ash hiring a really good OC. He will.
In other words a fancy title and the type of Co-OC position Flood had under Schiano ( in name only) .
I've also heard he will be the WR coach at Texas , which was what he was before under Herman before moving up to OC at RU.
Terry Shea was paid 250K, which goes a long way towards explaining why we get the results we do. Schiano started at 700K.
Have to say, Mehringer came off as a polite, sincere young guy. Wonder if the failure to thank Ash might be revealing of something here in terms of how this went down. As great as Texas is, WR coach and co-coordinator is not a parallel move, much less a promotion.
Dear Drew
Best of Luck
In retrospect, when you are my age, you will likely look back at this experience and wonder "what if".
It seems you took the "easy way out " after Coach Ash committed to you and you seemingly committed back. He took a chance and now is left hanging. Your failure is in not being able to adapt, and tolerate frustration. Coach Ash shares in this failure.
I don't personally look at your early results on the field as a "fail" - and was willing to give you time.
You must have felt quite demoralized (understandably, this can be a tough region to assimilate to for a young guy from Texas) both on and off the field.
Best of Luck
In retrospect, when you are my age, you will likely look back at this experience and wonder "what if".
It seems you took the "easy way out " after Coach Ash committed to you and you seemingly committed back. He took a chance and now is left hanging. Your failure is in not being able to adapt, and tolerate frustration. Coach Ash shares in this failure.
I don't personally look at your early results on the field as a "fail" - and was willing to give you time.
You must have felt quite demoralized (understandably, this can be a tough region to assimilate to for a young guy from Texas) both on and off the field.
Agreed. We have some of the dumbest fans. We also have a lot of angry beavers who like to just rip into everyone and everything. Shut this cesspool down Mods.
Everything I've seen says either "passing game coordinator" or "co-oc." Haven't seen "wr coach" anywhere but, whatever, semantics. I'm sure everyone here will continue to beat the guy down until he proves what he can do with, well, talent and speed.
GS was paid around 500k in the begining. He did not get to 700k until around year 4
I hope the door didn't hit him in his ass on the way out, he just couldn't cut it, a quitter never wins and a winner never quits
