Mr third best option with a bad knee looks okay to me in this video...
Video: Gene Has a Bad Knee?
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Mr third best option with a bad knee looks okay to me in this video...
Nice. Too bad he couldn't stay here. I think maybe he might have started, you think? I'm sure you'll get some interesting responses to this clip.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Lol, i play better competition at LA fitness on friday mornings. Gene cant bang. He got BULLIED by Ron in open runs this off-season. BULLIED, BODIED, DOMINATED. Choose whatever word you want. Eugene walked out of the gym one too many times embarassed. He complained that the young guys “make things too personal”. Aka when he was gettin DOGGED he was getting upset and the young guys were relentless with the shit talking to him. FACTS.
He looks great....just like new...!!!....:cool2:
No chance he'll ever get injured again...not even remotely possible it would happen again...:chairshot:
No chance he'll ever get injured again...not even remotely possible it would happen again...:chairshot:
And then those bullies were outscored and outrebounded by him in the actual games. Got it.
On this though the young guns need to realize you need as many bullets as possible.Maybe he punked out, maybe he didn't. Either way the only enemy in the off-season are those next to you, on them to be ready now when it's go time come fall.
modern day Robert Frost above.
Not sure what it meant, but it is beautiful
Not sure what it meant, but it is beautiful
You mean the talented freshman were outscored and outrebounded by a junior before they got into the swing of things? Uhh.....duh? Are you under the assumption that those freshman can't make their own eugene-like jump in talent between their frosh and soph years?
Eugene the complainer...[jumpingsmile][jumpingsmile][laughing][jumpingsmile][jumpingsmile][laughing].
Your spin is getting ridiculous. You really want people to believe that Eugene was complaining because of the competition in summer pickup games. Same guy who never backed down from anyone in 3 years playing against Big 10 competition....but, he walked out of the gym playing against his teammates.....haha.
"Kyk the Fabricator" strikes again !!! And he looked at a 7 second tape and claims to play against better competition at LA Fitness...[banana]
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This reads like fanfiction.
What happened with your source who guaranteed Doucoure was transferring?
But, his ALL CAPS really sells it...lol !!
Next up from Kyk....Ron Harper will take twice as many charging fouls as Mr. Softee Eugene Omoruyi. Harper will take 56 charges next year. I guarantee it.
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Id like to also point out how many times eugene tried to pull off dunks like this against division 1 scholarship players last year and blew the dunk. Does everyone forget how many big time dunks he went for where he failed?
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Sure looks like he wants to rest his knee and RS cry bullshit to that rumor. Maybe should be more SELECTIVE to team captains in the future
EO you certainly did not turn out to be a team LEADER. Leaders lead they dont run
The team is changing for the better. EO era is over the players here now are BETTER
Sure looks like he wants to rest his knee and RS cry bullshit to that rumor. Maybe should be more SELECTIVE to team captains in the future
EO you certainly did not turn out to be a team LEADER. Leaders lead they dont run
The team is changing for the better. EO era is over the players here now are BETTER
We can debate this all summer and fall but the fans that usually overreact after a departure, have the same usual reaction.
Not all departures are the same.
Nigel Johnson.....departed as a grad transfer candidate after Pike's 1st year....he was a starter and played a great game in the B1G tournament contesr vs Ohio State.
The fans were losing a proven starter and we all heard that Geo Baker was underrated, but he wasn't going to be as good as Johnson.
We could have had Johnson and Baker with Sanders and Mike Williams and had a backcourt of 4 solid guards and Souf Mensah would have been the 5th guard along with Jake Dadika.
Was RU better off without Nigel Johnson vs Baker being elevated to a starter from Day 1?? Debatable but what if the handwriting was on the wall and Johnson wasn't really going to defer and become a bench player?? Same situation with Eugene, a better and more complete guard was going to play.
Last spring, if fans wanted to argue Sanders departing was a devastating blow, I could not argue that RU would have been better for 1 last season, if Corey stayed. But the larger picture was beyond 1 single season.
While this past season could have been better, at the end of this past season, how much more confident would RU have been, if Harper, McConnell, Baker and Mathis all played significantly less minutes with Corey playing 32 to 35 minutes a game?? Would RUs upside for 2019-20 be better or worse??
This is the now the 3rd time or version of a starter leaving the program. In each of the past instances, the same pattern happens...panic happens, the sky is falling, RU is failing and these kids are going to play somewhere else etc....and in each instance, RU was better as a program for the following year because more complete players who buy in, are coming in the program.
I think what makes this one more strange is the timing, but unlike losing Nigel Johnson and Corey Sanders, in BOTH cases before, some who were following the recruiting process, believed that the information on Geo Baker was very positive out of New England....but he was unproven.......we believed that Johnson was a proven player, but Geo would be a better shooter, passer player and needed minutes to play.
We also saw how losing Corey Sanders and Mike Williams and Freeman were huge departures....incoming unknowns like Mathis Harper, McConnell and Myles Johnson, who apparently wasn't even good enough to play as a true freshman and redshirted.....how would RU be better?? RU was picked across the board to finish last.
Now what makes this strange or somewhat comical in fans unable to believe KYK or myself or a few others is we all saw the freshman seasons of Mathis, McConnell, Harper and Johnson.....it's not as if they're completely unknowns.
And to add an additional layer, the staff brings in a full time, game ready starting caliber player in Yeboah and has Jacob Young and Paul Mulcahy incoming as well.
And we still find a way, to act as if this departure is devastating or all is lost.
Sanders was a legitimate threat and best player to leave BUT with that, the same huge gap in his game, was not being able to consistently make 3 pointers....or it was the same item with Deshawn Freeman and even though Mike Williams was capable of shooting, all the departing 3 point percentages were not good.....and Eugene's numbers were not good and he was not an impact player that impacts defenses off the dribble or from 3.
And halfway through this past season after faltering badly at Fordham, at Wisconsin and Seton Hall....after struggling vs Boston University and Columbia, the Sanders cries were louder....we were in big trouble..
Fans here saying that after getting crushed by Maryland at home, wondered if RU would win 2 games in the B1G....things looked bleak.......and during that ENTIRE stretch of the 1st half of the season when RU was apparently only going to win 2 B1G games, Eugene Omoyuri played his heart out....played his best basketball of his career....but with that, RU wasn't improving...
As soon as the injury happened, we lost 3 more games after beating Ohio State without Eugene BUT the 1st half of the season and playing time increased for the frosh....rotations changed, roles were expanded, better shooters played more, better players played more minutes....when the competition was much tougher than Fordham, Columbia, Boston University, RU played much better.
I think Sanders was far, far more important than Eugene ever was BUT by the end of this past season, RU I think established itself that they did overcome Sanders, Freeman, Williams and Sa, because the players brought in were complete players, all who could be a better 3 point threat.
Eugene was a good player but was not a complete player who could impact a game at all levels (dribble, shooting threat from 3, pass) ....we add a player that is a complete player in Yeboah and another one in Jacob Young....if Mulcahy has any improvements from HS to college, we add a 3rd complete basketball player and lose 2 in Thiam and Eugene that just were just not.
You can stay in love with Eugene or take the info Kyk and others are providing....or you can hate on kyk, who isn't going to change.......keep in mind kyk thought we needed Sanders and then that we needed a grad transfer PG last spring.....I wasn't in favor of it......and I never saw Eugene getting past 7 to 8PPG, because I never saw him capable of being a leader in scoring.....we aren't always right but most of the time, logic and the numbers prevail.
Does that mean Eugene was a scrub or wasn't capable of playing?? Not quite, but we have better players in place and prior to the injury, when Eugene was 100%, RU was extremely limited and looked worse in the 1st half of the season as a team than the 2nd half.
RU is going to overcome this, just like Nigel Johnson and just like Sanders leaving a year early.
Not all departures are the same.
Nigel Johnson.....departed as a grad transfer candidate after Pike's 1st year....he was a starter and played a great game in the B1G tournament contesr vs Ohio State.
The fans were losing a proven starter and we all heard that Geo Baker was underrated, but he wasn't going to be as good as Johnson.
We could have had Johnson and Baker with Sanders and Mike Williams and had a backcourt of 4 solid guards and Souf Mensah would have been the 5th guard along with Jake Dadika.
Was RU better off without Nigel Johnson vs Baker being elevated to a starter from Day 1?? Debatable but what if the handwriting was on the wall and Johnson wasn't really going to defer and become a bench player?? Same situation with Eugene, a better and more complete guard was going to play.
Last spring, if fans wanted to argue Sanders departing was a devastating blow, I could not argue that RU would have been better for 1 last season, if Corey stayed. But the larger picture was beyond 1 single season.
While this past season could have been better, at the end of this past season, how much more confident would RU have been, if Harper, McConnell, Baker and Mathis all played significantly less minutes with Corey playing 32 to 35 minutes a game?? Would RUs upside for 2019-20 be better or worse??
This is the now the 3rd time or version of a starter leaving the program. In each of the past instances, the same pattern happens...panic happens, the sky is falling, RU is failing and these kids are going to play somewhere else etc....and in each instance, RU was better as a program for the following year because more complete players who buy in, are coming in the program.
I think what makes this one more strange is the timing, but unlike losing Nigel Johnson and Corey Sanders, in BOTH cases before, some who were following the recruiting process, believed that the information on Geo Baker was very positive out of New England....but he was unproven.......we believed that Johnson was a proven player, but Geo would be a better shooter, passer player and needed minutes to play.
We also saw how losing Corey Sanders and Mike Williams and Freeman were huge departures....incoming unknowns like Mathis Harper, McConnell and Myles Johnson, who apparently wasn't even good enough to play as a true freshman and redshirted.....how would RU be better?? RU was picked across the board to finish last.
Now what makes this strange or somewhat comical in fans unable to believe KYK or myself or a few others is we all saw the freshman seasons of Mathis, McConnell, Harper and Johnson.....it's not as if they're completely unknowns.
And to add an additional layer, the staff brings in a full time, game ready starting caliber player in Yeboah and has Jacob Young and Paul Mulcahy incoming as well.
And we still find a way, to act as if this departure is devastating or all is lost.
Sanders was a legitimate threat and best player to leave BUT with that, the same huge gap in his game, was not being able to consistently make 3 pointers....or it was the same item with Deshawn Freeman and even though Mike Williams was capable of shooting, all the departing 3 point percentages were not good.....and Eugene's numbers were not good and he was not an impact player that impacts defenses off the dribble or from 3.
And halfway through this past season after faltering badly at Fordham, at Wisconsin and Seton Hall....after struggling vs Boston University and Columbia, the Sanders cries were louder....we were in big trouble..
Fans here saying that after getting crushed by Maryland at home, wondered if RU would win 2 games in the B1G....things looked bleak.......and during that ENTIRE stretch of the 1st half of the season when RU was apparently only going to win 2 B1G games, Eugene Omoyuri played his heart out....played his best basketball of his career....but with that, RU wasn't improving...
As soon as the injury happened, we lost 3 more games after beating Ohio State without Eugene BUT the 1st half of the season and playing time increased for the frosh....rotations changed, roles were expanded, better shooters played more, better players played more minutes....when the competition was much tougher than Fordham, Columbia, Boston University, RU played much better.
I think Sanders was far, far more important than Eugene ever was BUT by the end of this past season, RU I think established itself that they did overcome Sanders, Freeman, Williams and Sa, because the players brought in were complete players, all who could be a better 3 point threat.
Eugene was a good player but was not a complete player who could impact a game at all levels (dribble, shooting threat from 3, pass) ....we add a player that is a complete player in Yeboah and another one in Jacob Young....if Mulcahy has any improvements from HS to college, we add a 3rd complete basketball player and lose 2 in Thiam and Eugene that just were just not.
You can stay in love with Eugene or take the info Kyk and others are providing....or you can hate on kyk, who isn't going to change.......keep in mind kyk thought we needed Sanders and then that we needed a grad transfer PG last spring.....I wasn't in favor of it......and I never saw Eugene getting past 7 to 8PPG, because I never saw him capable of being a leader in scoring.....we aren't always right but most of the time, logic and the numbers prevail.
Does that mean Eugene was a scrub or wasn't capable of playing?? Not quite, but we have better players in place and prior to the injury, when Eugene was 100%, RU was extremely limited and looked worse in the 1st half of the season as a team than the 2nd half.
RU is going to overcome this, just like Nigel Johnson and just like Sanders leaving a year early.
Personally I think Geo is going to have a tough time fighting off the young guys coming in. He will be fighting for minutes himself. His shooting and decision making need to get better
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I’ll also point out, go to any court in an urban area in nj or ny in the summer and youll see dunks like this thrown down with regularity. Dunks means nothing
My daughter's AAU team's coach used to play at Rucker womens before the NBA players played their games
Eugene's median game >>>>>> Corey's median game.
Rutgers basketball is on the map primarily because of Eugene Omoruyi. Easily the best player on the team last year...not even close.
Now how much worse is '19-'20 without him.....given that he was hobbled, given his eye was on pro basketball.........I can see the argument.
NCAA hopes for this year pretty much left when Eugene left, the question I have were they really faint to begin with?
Rutgers basketball is on the map primarily because of Eugene Omoruyi. Easily the best player on the team last year...not even close.
Now how much worse is '19-'20 without him.....given that he was hobbled, given his eye was on pro basketball.........I can see the argument.
NCAA hopes for this year pretty much left when Eugene left, the question I have were they really faint to begin with?
Disagree....young guy's need to prove they can make tough shots. My $ is on Geo being the best player on the team this year.
Dude...it’s time to give it a big rest. Even if 100% true
Can’t handle the truth?
(If it is the truth?)
If true, that just gives most fans more confidence in the guys that ARE returning.
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Rutgers basketball is on the map because of Steve P...getting a lot of very good basketball players, one at a time, and building a program
Certainly not gene or any one player
And, geo baker was our best player last year ....Eugene was number 2...and the leader of this team on the court
I actually agree with kyk ...I said three weeks ago thar if what he said was true (Harper being the best player in workout l)...we will be dancing ....and if a second player stepped up and pushed geo and gene to 3 and 4 ...we have a shot to do some tourney damage
but the overbearing tone needs a big rest
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You guys can ask @NewJerseyHawk about my comments on eugene. This isnt sour grapes by me, i hit up Hawk about a month ago with this, that eugene was getting bullied by ron in practice.
Oh, thanks for reminding me. Out-defensed them too.
As to whatever your wrote above, are you forgetting that this was about how outclassed and outbullied he was last year at important events at LA Fitness. So I thought I'd add a small note about how things went last year in actual games where they keep score and standings and then have tournaments and such at the end of the year.
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For every bid shot he hit he missed 5 or 6 others and turned ball over alot.....shooting needs to get better along with decision making. I could see a 4th yr portal guy when young guns settle in. Personally unless I'm going to the NBA I would never be a portal guy throwing away a great degree. You have to remember hoops got you a free ride into a great institution....take advantage of it and do not throw it away to chase a dream that is not going to happen
So far this week I’ve heard:
1. Eugene was third best option at the 4
2. Eugene can’t play this year bc his knee
3. He got chased out of town because younger guys were dominating him in practice (mind you it’s may).
4. He was hanging with wrong crowd and getting bad advice in Toronto
5. He didn’t gel with the other players.
Why can’t it just be we lost a good player but we have the talent to overcome it. Why do we need to bash the kids game, health, and character?
Many people here, especially me are not saying we’re screwed. But you’re acting like it’s a non issue or a good thing. It’s total spin. Unless you’re in love with Shaq Carters game and think he’s ready to break out.
Also comparing this situation to Corey or Nigel is absolute apples to oranges. They don’t even remotely correlate.
Does this include the Garden Statement?
Look, I like Eugene a lot, but contrast what he was playing with talent wise vs. Corey. Corey could get a little carried away with the chuck and duck shots, but he always seemed to be out in front leading by doing everything he could. It was his strength and his weakness. I think they are comparable, and not as one sided as indicated
I don’t remember blown dunks. Maybe one or two contested when the knee was bothering him. Guy was a warrior. His grit kept rutgers in several games this past year. hopefully the young guys mature enough to overcome that loss. No reason to negatively spin EO contributions last year. They were huge.
I’m not arguing whether or not Eugene got bullied in practice or any of that, I wasn’t there. I just can’t believe anything kyk says on the matter. He regularly states that college players couldn’t hang at his LA Fitness and previously staked his reputation on Gene not being a D1 player. Not sure why I have to believe he knows the game better than anyone else here just because he says so
My comment was sarcasm....of course there were not blown dunks by Eugene all year......that was another fabrication by that guy.
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when talking about the NCAA's, we have to look at the entire team...... comparing Yeboah with Gene is fine, but it is possible we might have been a near NCAA team with both, but not without Gene.
depth..... we lost a valuable cog in the rotation....
but we will never know, unless we make the tourney as is
Those comments are downright comical. The LA Fitness put it over the top. I had planned to go to a Comedy Club this weekend...not now I got enough laughs in this thread.
I don't know why Rutgers even built a practice Facility...Just have the guys play against that tough LA Fitness competition to get ready for the Big 10 season.
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