Who else is not convinced HCKF will be fired?

[KingHigh]

This is not speculation. The thought process is there are three specific people who Rutgers will replace flood with if they can work out the details. We all already know who these three people are, it's been out all over the place it's not a secret. What you may not know is that if Rutgers does not secure any of these three people then flood is definitely coming back, unless the report findings we've no choice. However if flood is dismissed because of the report, julie is out with him. This information from an extremely reliable source I thought I should share.

 

[mildone]

This is not speculation. The thought process is there are three specific people who Rutgers will replace flood with if they can work out the details. We all already know who these three people are, it's been out all over the place it's not a secret. What you may not know is that if Rutgers does not secure any of these three people then flood is definitely coming back, unless the report findings we've no choice. However if flood is dismissed because of the report, julie is out with him. This information from an extremely reliable source I thought I should share.

What three people?

 

[cohwx]

Golden, Schiano, Cristobal? Just guessing based on all the chatter on the boards.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Golden, Schiano, Cristobal? Just guessing based on all the chatter on the boards.

1) I highly doubt we will hire 1 of 3, and only 3, canidates

2) and, if I'm wrong, I pray to God THAT isn't the list of "3"

 

[S.B. Crumb]

Golden, Schiano, Cristobal? Just guessing based on all the chatter on the boards.

Did we hire Pernetti back when I wasn't paying attention?

 

[KingHigh]

All I will say about the specific names is that all three of them are names that have been dropped here over the past two weeks non stop there are no surprises at all on the list

 

[KingHigh]

The way I understood it, if blood has to be fired because of conduct revealed in the report, he and Julie are gone and it will be a very bad situation for Rutgers to have to find another coach at that point under those circumstances.

 

[derleider]

1) I highly doubt we will hire 1 of 3, and only 3, canidates

2) and, if I'm wrong, I pray to God THAT isn't the list of "3"

It would be classic RU actually - as if we have a time machine that prevents the people with the money from seeing beyond 2009.

 

[cohwx]

Those 3 seem like the classic "Rutgers hires". I would prefer if some of the other coaches/coordinators that have been discussed were in the mix.

 

[urbanecane]

I will say this ONE MORE TIME: some of our posters need to step out of their little bubble worlds, watch college football beyond Rutgers games and visit other boards from time to time. They will learn:

--people upset with the coach when things are going badly is NORMAL and EVERYONE DOES IT; the worse things are going the more they do it

--Rutgers fans are probably the most patient fans in all of college football, not the least by any stretch of the imagination

--few boards have as many annoying prissy board police telling others what they should and should not post as this one does (although all boards seem to have the overuse of the word "hater" for anyone who dares criticize someone else)

--our offense is unbelievably tame, stale, boring and predictable compared to most others

So much truth here. It was mindblowing how defensive some posters got when Flood's recruiting was questioned.

 

[MoobyCow]

Can we put Babers on that list? He's been mentioned.

I don't know if there is a 3 person list or not, but it doesn't seem all that likely. I have heard a lot of chatter that the money is already raised, and I would expect that if one of the "3" doesn't work there will be a lot of pressure to keep that money for another candidate.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

 

[MoobyCow]

Yes please.

 

[cohwx]

He seems like the most "exciting" hire, somewhat out of the box given that this is RU. Would definitely prefer him over Golden or Cristobal.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

He seems like the most "exciting" hire, somewhat out of the box given that this is RU. Would definitely prefer him over Golden or Cristobal.

LOL @ Cristobal as HC here. He went 27-47 at FIU going:

1-11
5-7
3-9
7-6
8-5
3-9

NOOOOO F* THANK YOU!!

 

[knightfan7]

LOL @ Cristobal as HC here. He went 27-47 at FIU going:

1-11
5-7
3-9
7-6
8-5
3-9

NOOOOO F* THANK YOU!!

Don't tell Al you feel that way. You'll get a 1000 word beat down for daring to say anything bad about his buddy Mario.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Don't tell Al you feel that way. You'll get a 1000 word beat down for daring to say anything bad about his buddy Mario.

Flat-out awful choice IMHO. Don't care if it was a "building" job, I don't care if you ge won a conference title, he went up and then he went back down, and that's all you need to know, he is nor the guy for us.

 

[mildone]

Golden, Schiano, Cristobal? Just guessing based on all the chatter on the boards.

Ah jeez. I sure hope not. Total let down with any of those three, far as I'm concerned.

 

[Raritan83]

Flat-out awful choice IMHO. Don't care if it was a "building" job, I don't care if you ge won a conference title, he went up and then he went back down, and that's all you need to know, he is nor the guy for us.

and if it came down to Flood or Mario is it still a no thank you for him?

 

[mildone]

Much more exciting choice than Schiano (yuk), Golden (yuuuk), Cristobal (yuuuuuuk). Although it'd still basically be a crap shoot if he could win in the Big Ten.

 

[S.B. Crumb]

If there is one coach mentioned that may be as nearly as bad as Flood, it's Cristobal. Thinking back on Flood's hiring and that Humpty and Dumpty were our only 2 "candidates", we were pretty much screwed either way.

SMH...Cristobal?...is this real life?

 

[mildone]

and if it came down to Flood or Mario is it still a no thank you for him?

Had to edit his because I didn't read the question correctly the first time.

It's a HELL NO, thank you (for Mario). If it came down to it, given that choice, I'd keep Flood. Either way we get the wrong coach. But with Flood, there's probably more of a chance to at least keep Russo in the pipeline. And we could get rid of Flood next year whereas we'd be stuck w/Mario for at least 3 years and probably more.

Either way, we'd make no progress towards competing and winning in the Big Ten.

 

[mildone]

I don't know what would melt the board down more. Hiring either Golden or Christobal, or not firing Flood.

A Schiano hire wouldn't melt the board down so much as create an even more toxic environment around here as folks like me that respect what he did in the past but think he peaked, and people who worship him go at it.

 

[MoobyCow]

I don't know what would melt the board down more. Hiring either Golden or Christobal, or not firing Flood.

A Schiano wouldn't melt the board down so much as create an even more toxic environment around here as folks like me that respect what he did in the past but think he peaked, and people who worship him go at it.

 

[Knight Shift]

LOL @ Cristobal as HC here. He went 27-47 at FIU going:

1-11
5-7
3-9
7-6
8-5
3-9

NOOOOO F* THANK YOU!!

Flood, Cristobal or death---tough choice.

 

[MoobyCow]

I'm not really in the 'bring back Schiano' camp, but if the choices are Flood, Fleck, Cristobal, Golden or Schiano.... I'm all in on Schiano.

 

[RU31trap]

Did we hire Pernetti back when I wasn't paying attention?

I felt he got thrown under the bus by Barchi. I say hell yes bring him back! Don't dismiss Randy Edsall being in the mix.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Just get him a good DC and I'm fine with him.

 

[DaveSNJ]

Sorry Wheezer, but you are not being exactly truthful, now are you? As a fan base that is fed up with Floods deficiencies, there should not be an option! Predicting he comes back, because of WHATEVER reason, is a sign of complacency. And, really a losers mentality. Once you accept, you become part of the problem. If you really, I mean really care about this program, the athletes and the reputation of Rutgers University, then the fight should never end with any result, other than the removal of Flood from anything associated with Rutgers University!
Afterall Wheezer, with that handle, you should remember when people actually protested, and fought for things they believed in. Or has time passed you by......

I'm sorry this is one of the most rediculous statements I've read in this thread.

Unless you have about 20 to 25 million laying around nothing is going to happen. If the report is so devastating that a move needs to be made, I wouldn't expect a big time hire. And really that is what I'm looking for not the guy with a lot of potential or the guy who was an OC or DC taking a crack at the HC job for the first time.

Has nothing to do with what fans want or not it has everything to do with $$$$$$$ available.

 

[derleider]

I felt he got thrown under the bus by Barchi. I say hell yes bring him back!

He did get thrown under the bus - thats what happens. Its business - you dont get to be a university president by taking the fall for small timers like Pernetti. Its not like he didnt deserve it. In the first place by not demanding that Rice be fired - iether he didnt think it was necessary (in which case he should have been fired for not seeing the obvious - that when, not if, the tapes got out, the media would be all over it) or he didnt advocate for it strongly enough (hell - threaten to quit - even Barchi isnt going to let the AD walk off the job to protect a guy like Rice). Either way - he got fired for his own lack of action - if Rice is let go in December Pernetti is probably still working here. And then his disastrous press performances once the video came out.

Oh and he hired Flood and Rice in the first place.

 

[Knight Shift]

Is that a pad with notes on it that i see? Totally unacceptable. Scratch him off the list.

 

[RUJohnny99]

Btw Babers has as many Big Ten wins as Flood over the last two seasons.

 

[mildone]

I'm sorry this is one of the most rediculous statements I've read in this thread.

Unless you have about 20 to 25 million laying around nothing is going to happen. If the report is so devastating that a move needs to be made, I wouldn't expect a big time hire. And really that is what I'm looking for not the guy with a lot of potential or the guy who was an OC or DC taking a crack at the HC job for the first time.

Has nothing to do with what fans want or not it has everything to do with $$$$$$$ available.

There's tons of money available. It has everything to do with the mood of the BOG w/respect to the football program.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

and if it came down to Flood or Mario is it still a no thank you for him?

First off I'm highly skeptical of this "3-man ONLY" stuff. 2nd, can't imagine that he'd be one of the three guys on such a ridiculous list, to be quite honest with you, but who knows. 3rd, I'd take half the high school coaches in New Jersey over fFlood, right now, so there's my answer that ha ha!

That being said he'd fry my supper, 100%, as any new HC would get, I just don't get the "hype" so to be honest.

 

[KingHigh]

Their thinking is if they do not feel very assured of landing one off their very short list, it would be unwise to go on a open ended fishing expedition for a head coach given the amount of quality job openings. The only scenario in which RU will put herself in that position is if the report is so bad that people are going to have to get fired and I emphasize the word "people." Then it's clean house time and you could forget about the Schiano/Golden/Cristobal list (by the way that is not the list), the aim would be much lower at that point. We would be f'd big time in that scenario.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Their thinking is if they do not feel very assured of landing one off their very short list, it would be unwise to go on a open ended fishing expedition for a head coach given the amount of quality job openings. The only scenario in which RU will put herself in that position is if the report is so bad that people are going to have to get fired and I emphasize the word "people." Then it's clean house time and you could forget about the Schiano/Golden/Cristobal list (by the way that is not the list), the aim would be much lower at that point. We would be f'd big time in that scenario.

whew [thumb2]

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Their thinking is if they do not feel very assured of landing one off their very short list, it would be unwise to go on a open ended fishing expedition for a head coach given the amount of quality job openings. The only scenario in which RU will put herself in that position is if the report is so bad that people are going to have to get fired and I emphasize the word "people." Then it's clean house time and you could forget about the Schiano/Golden/Cristobal list (by the way that is not the list), the aim would be much lower at that point. We would be f'd big time in that scenario.

Well THANK GOD for that! Still not 100% convinced we're at "3," based on other rumblings, but let's just hope for the best.

 

[RUforlife]

The 2016 Rutgers football coach will be .............. Kyle Flood. And yes, I would love a change, but a Rutgers HC doesn't get fired for going 4-8/5-7 after three straight bowl games and losing to Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin and an improved Washington State team. Unless there is more dirt, all the message board chirping doesn't change the dynamic and history of an organization.

 

[D1ESEL44]

Their thinking is if they do not feel very assured of landing one off their very short list, it would be unwise to go on a open ended fishing expedition for a head coach given the amount of quality job openings. The only scenario in which RU will put herself in that position is if the report is so bad that people are going to have to get fired and I emphasize the word "people." Then it's clean house time and you could forget about the Schiano/Golden/Cristobal list (by the way that is not the list), the aim would be much lower at that point. We would be f'd big time in that scenario.

King - how much are they willing to spend for an HC and his staff?

 

[MoobyCow]

Their thinking is if they do not feel very assured of landing one off their very short list, it would be unwise to go on a open ended fishing expedition for a head coach given the amount of quality job openings. The only scenario in which RU will put herself in that position is if the report is so bad that people are going to have to get fired and I emphasize the word "people." Then it's clean house time and you could forget about the Schiano/Golden/Cristobal list (by the way that is not the list), the aim would be much lower at that point. We would be f'd big time in that scenario.

The most amusing thing is you are incredibly specific about scenarios, how many coaches, what might happen to Julie and Flood but somehow the names of coaches is just a step too far. No way, can't give that up, then someone might think there was a leak.