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Why would a recruit even consider seton hall over RU

I hope you guys did, in the long run both of our programs being good helps.

Either way wish yall the best on Friday but I expect a blowout. Good luck!

Cool. You run a $50 million dollar business and have Courtside seats and yet here you are, spending your time trolling another team's anonymous fanboard. By my count that makes you pretty much an fng loser.
 
No more Luther Weights for you....you're downtrending...let's face it...your No Nova...or even St John's....be grateful for your run...I was in my prime when RU was a final 4 team...our chances are trending up...yours?? Well be thankful for what you had...

Blows my mind how a fan of your program can be this cocky and say anything about another schools program. We are the reigning Big East Champions, you only wish you could have been in my shoes.

I respect your blind loyalty I really do. But if you were really in your prime when RU was in the Final Four then Rutgers has not been good since the Watergate convictions.

Ill take the last 35 years of being a Seton Hall fan over the last 35 miserable years you have endured.

Enjoy this season while you can, come Friday Rutgers basketball is back to the dumpster.
 
Blows my mind how a fan of your program can be this cocky and say anything about another schools program. We are the reigning Big East Champions, you only wish you could have been in my shoes.

I respect your blind loyalty I really do. But if you were really in your prime when RU was in the Final Four then Rutgers has not been good since the Watergate convictions.

Ill take the last 35 years of being a Seton Hall fan over the last 35 miserable years you have endured.

Enjoy this season while you can, come Friday Rutgers basketball is back to the dumpster.
cmon Jcalz.....if I asked anyone with a reasonable memory, 90% of America clearly saw that Josh Hart was hacked with no call that allowed the hard-fought win at MSG, which was great and warrants some credit....but winning the Big East title last year, isn't the Big East of yesterday with Louisville, WVA, Cuse, UConn, Pitt and others that owned that tourney for a long time.....the conference is watered down by comparison.....still a good conference, but nowhere near the top of the food chain, by any stretch of imagination.

SHU is good, but nowhere near that team of last year, otherwise, SHU would not have lost to Stanford or Florida already or barely squeaked by Cal and South Carolina, who was missing their best player last week

This is a new year, stopping reading the press-clippings of last year.....Whitehead isn't walking back through the door again....this is your one time to talk smack, your benchmark is now beating a rebuilding RU program at home.....???.....what will be the excuse if the game is close Friday or SHU somehow loses the game???......can't wait to hear the excuses pile up then.....
 
Yeah we mailed it in to Stanford for sure, Florida has been and will continue to be a fringe top 25 team.

Wait the Big East is not near the top????

Your opinion is so biased it is insane.
 
cmon Jcalz.....if I asked anyone with a reasonable memory, 90% of America clearly saw that Josh Hart was hacked with no call that allowed the hard-fought win at MSG, which was great and warrants some credit....but winning the Big East title last year, isn't the Big East of yesterday with Louisville, WVA, Cuse, UConn, Pitt and others that owned that tourney for a long time.....the conference is watered down by comparison.....still a good conference, but nowhere near the top of the food chain, by any stretch of imagination.

SHU is good, but nowhere near that team of last year, otherwise, SHU would not have lost to Stanford or Florida already or barely squeaked by Cal and South Carolina, who was missing their best player last week

This is a new year, stopping reading the press-clippings of last year.....Whitehead isn't walking back through the door again....this is your one time to talk smack, your benchmark is now beating a rebuilding RU program at home.....???.....what will be the excuse if the game is close Friday or SHU somehow loses the game???......can't wait to hear the excuses pile up then.....

SHU beat the National champs in the Big East Tournament. There's no logical way you can degrade that accomplishment by saying that the Big East is a "watered down" conference. For every foul call that you say should've been called against Seton Hall, I can show you one that should been called against Villanova in that game. Stupid argument.
 
Still cant figure out why any kid would want to go to SHU when you can go to RU. Like what exactly does SHU offer? I had friends who went there who would come to RU and visit me all the time because they said SHU campus was a ghost town and dead with nothing to do on weekends.

1) RU is a better school
2) were soon to have better facilities
3) we have an on campus arena
4) we have better fan support (yes we do when were even halfway decent)
5) better school
6) not a commuter school and we have a college atmosphere
7) better campus
8) better dorms
9) better dining halls
10) better conference

I cannot think of one reason why a kid would choose SHU over RU

Maybe because Rutgers has been about the worst major basketball program of the last 40 years!!!
 
Maybe because Rutgers has been about the worst major basketball program of the last 40 years!!!

4 posts on an RU Board since 2001 and you're ripping on RU? You must live under a bridge, TROLL.
 
It's hard to believe this post continues. Go back to the Seton Hall board and talk about how great you are. We really don't care. Talk all you want about how we still suck, 11-1 is not real and you don't think it's a big deal that we just landed a 6-9 star.

On our board we are happy about all of these things and hope that on Friday night we can win. Our world in hoops is getting stronger by the day whether we win Friday or not. But take your own nonsense back to your own fans. This is a Rutgers fan forum. We don't like you.
 
LOL seton hall has fans to troll? I honestly wouldnt take a full ride to shu over paying my way through RU. Shu is a dump and a completely dead campus with zero student life
 
Better basketball program though...
If not winning an ncaa tourney game since 2004 makes you "much" better than a team who hasnt made the tourney since the early 90's sure. But theres no doubt that future is a tonnnnnn bright at RU than in South Orange
 
If not winning an ncaa tourney game since 2004 makes you "much" better than a team who hasnt made the tourney since the early 90's sure. But theres no doubt that future is a tonnnnnn bright at RU than in South Orange


Please explain how the future is so bright? You won games with the worst schedule in the NCAA, SHU just won the BET and made the NCAA's and we already have signed a top 75 player for next season.

I get the red blinders many of us have blue ones on over on the shu board so I understand it. Lets talk how bright once you start to play real competition.
 
Please explain how the future is so bright? You won games with the worst schedule in the NCAA, SHU just won the BET and made the NCAA's and we already have signed a top 75 player for next season.

I get the red blinders many of us have blue ones on over on the shu board so I understand it. Lets talk how bright once you start to play real competition.

I'll say it again. What is the appeal of trolling the fan board of an opposing team to talk about how great your team is or how much we suck? Are you really that pathetic?
 
Please explain how the future is so bright? You won games with the worst schedule in the NCAA, SHU just won the BET and made the NCAA's and we already have signed a top 75 player for next season.

I get the red blinders many of us have blue ones on over on the shu board so I understand it. Lets talk how bright once you start to play real competition.
Are you dense. For twenty years we have had no money put into our basketball program. Now, we have a 100 million dollar practice facility being built and 50 mil per year on the way from the big ten. Stop acting like that is not going to matter. We have only received an increase in income for about 4 years now and it's reduced from what we will receive. If you can't see how that matters, Mr. Business, you're an idiot and I feel truly bad for your business. Stop acting like we're talking about chump change. This is money Seton Hall will never sniff. Just because we "had more" doesn't mean the sheer amount more we had was anything similar to what it is going to be in coming years.

Money matters, and you will be an afterthought in NJ compared to Rutgers in the coming years. After this state of the art facility is built, we will officially have better facilities than you and you will be behind in that category for the first time in years. Goodbye. I wouldn't wipe my ass with your opinion.
 
Landed a 6'9" "star"?
That's a little premature at this point no?
Actually a 6'9 4-star is what I should have said. Rutgers hasn't had many like Big Mama in my almost 27 years of me following the program. Seton Hall has had a bunch so maybe it's not a big deal for you? So it could be premature but I'll take the risk in calling him a star from what I've watched on video. If I'm wrong; so what?
 
Actually a 6'9 4-star is what I should have said. Rutgers hasn't had many like Big Mama in my almost 27 years of me following the program. Seton Hall has had a bunch so maybe it's not a big deal for you? So it could be premature but I'll take the risk in calling him a star from what I've watched on video. If I'm wrong; so what?
Their own posters on their own board even admit they have struggled landing talented big men like him. This idiot doesn't even know what he's talking about regarding his own team.
 
Their own posters on their own board even admit they have struggled landing talented big men like him. This idiot doesn't even know what he's talking about regarding his own team.
Listen, I'm just a fan; did some broadcasting so I have some knowledge but that's about it for a 5-9 jewish dude. Buuuut... after watching the videos of Big Mama; there is nobody that we've had who I can compare him to since I've been watching which is 1989. In fact; tell me one big man who was as good at Gettys since that time? Mama is a junior in college; correct? He can handle the ball, rebounds everything, has a baby jumper with sweet touch and could be one of the best to play for RU. If we were to land someone like Naz with a few more elite players; the RAC is going to be one tough ticket to get. How many times have I said that SHU has been better by miles and miles? We know that and we really hit rock bottom under Eddie. But we have one helluva coach and that's obvious to see. Regardless of what happens on Friday, I will not lose an ounce of enthusiasm for what is to come. And this idiot needs to focus on his team.
 
Are you dense. For twenty years we have had no money put into our basketball program. Now, we have a 100 million dollar practice facility being built and 50 mil per year on the way from the big ten. Stop acting like that is not going to matter. We have only received an increase in income for about 4 years now and it's reduced from what we will receive. If you can't see how that matters, Mr. Business, you're an idiot and I feel truly bad for your business. Stop acting like we're talking about chump change. This is money Seton Hall will never sniff. Just because we "had more" doesn't mean the sheer amount more we had was anything similar to what it is going to be in coming years.

Money matters, and you will be an afterthought in NJ compared to Rutgers in the coming years. After this state of the art facility is built, we will officially have better facilities than you and you will be behind in that category for the first time in years. Goodbye. I wouldn't wipe my ass with your opinion.


Money is not everything. Win some games against real opponents then lets talk, until then you are not on the rise...

You realize every big football school has better facilities then SHU and we are still good. Just saying
 
Money is not everything. Win some games against real opponents then lets talk, until then you are not on the rise...

You realize every big football school has better facilities then SHU and we are still good. Just saying
Nah!
 
If not winning an ncaa tourney game since 2004 makes you "much" better than a team who hasnt made the tourney since the early 90's sure. But theres no doubt that future is a tonnnnnn bright at RU than in South Orange
Future is a ton brighter?? Your future is a hell of a lot better now than it was with Jordan, but SHU will be in the NCAA tournament this season, next year can be very special. Next summer when it comes time to recruiting which will be huge not just for SHU, but for RU also. It will look very good when SHU will be a consensus preseason top 15-20 team. Maybe higher because we have a real shot at landing Duval
 
Money is not everything. Win some games against real opponents then lets talk, until then you are not on the rise...

You realize every big football school has better facilities then SHU and we are still good. Just saying
You realize we had terrible facilities forever and now we don't so you have far less to sell recruits over us right? We're the state university. You're just some school in the middle of the hood. Gap is closing bro
 
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Rutgers has the opportunity to surpass Seton Hall as NJs best basketball school. The ceiling is way higher. That being said Seton Hall had been a better program for some time now. The gap is closing and it could be argued that our coaching staff is already better.
 
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Facilities is not the only reason you guys have been atrocious. Yes you coaching staff is the best at beating the worst schedule in the country touche
 
Wow!!! Lots of immaturity going on in this thread. The my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck but your d*ck is thicker than mine mentality! Lol
 
What about when they brought in whitehead, carrington, delgado and rodriguez? What exactly did seton hall have going for it? They hadnt made the tourney in 10 years. And yes, I know they hired whiteheads coach at SHU
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Whitehead isn't there anymore------hasn't been for 2 years.

They continue to win-----nothing reported on guys that are currently there

So you're point is ?
 
Whitehead isn't there anymore------hasn't been for 2 years.

They continue to win-----nothing reported on guys that are currently there

So you're point is ?
My point? They were clearly doing some shady shit to get kids to go to that dump. The place offers N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Its a backup school to kids who cant get into monmouth.

Fyi in case you didnt know desi rodriguez was whiteheads high school teammate. This is just what was reported on the books too.
 
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Whitehead isn't there anymore------hasn't been for 2 years.

They continue to win-----nothing reported on guys that are currently there

So you're point is ?

Lots unknown here. How much did SHU know about? Which coaches were involved? How above board was the assistant coaching deal with Morton, and how much (if anything) was he also paid by ASM? Are there other players that might come out as the FBI probe continues beyond ASM?

But aside from all that, the Whitehead class got them where they are right now. Even if nothing is going on with current players, it's like saying an athlete didn't take steroids for the Olympics... just for the qualifiers, so what's the point?

This isn't a good look for SHU. Curious how much (if anything) Fred Hill Jr was aware of/party to, and whether anything bleeds back on us down the line.
 
Unknown being the correct word RUC

The kid took money from an agent

Anything beyond that is just speculation
 
Unknown being the correct word RUC

The kid took money from an agent

Anything beyond that is just speculation
And theres a trail of tiny morton getting money too, use a littttttle common sense here. Why would top recruits go to a place like seton hall? And theres money trails with coaches? Hmmmm
 
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Unknown being the correct word RUC

The kid took money from an agent

Anything beyond that is just speculation

Actually the AAU coach was well known to be connected to the agent with other Lincoln products like Telfair....

The AAU coach then gets hired by the school and suddenly Whitehead decides to sign with SHU....

The same AAU or then SHU coach is paid/loaned almost 10K....

The same AAU coach leaves SHU less than 1 year after being hired to go back to his HS teaching gig and Pension in NYC....

But there is no speculation....just facts....
 
I'm not a SHU fan or shill------I will root for them if they make the tournament but I'll root for any NJ school.

If any member of the SH staff or the HC knew about this or facilitated getting the kid that money I'm all for hanging them out to dry.

But there is zero that ties the HC to any of this.

That's factual
 
I'm not a SHU fan or shill------I will root for them if they make the tournament but I'll root for any NJ school.

If any member of the SH staff or the HC knew about this or facilitated getting the kid that money I'm all for hanging them out to dry.

But there is zero that ties the HC to any of this.

That's factual
Do you really think that Willard hired Morton without any expectation that he would be bringing some players along? They may have sequenced it to pass the eye test but I think many were suspicious of the sudden uptick in recruiting and that they all came from NYC. Now Willard may have said I don't want to know anything about how or under what conditions they came but given that no one seems to deny that this happens all the time, he must have assumed a deal was made but retained plausible deniability.
 
I'm not a SHU fan or shill------I will root for them if they make the tournament but I'll root for any NJ school.

If any member of the SH staff or the HC knew about this or facilitated getting the kid that money I'm all for hanging them out to dry.

But there is zero that ties the HC to any of this.

That's factual

Well, there's already a tie to the staff - Morton was on staff when it happened, and he himself was getting money. The question is if *anyone else* on the staff knew. Given the shadiness of the Whitehead/Morton package deal, and the fairly open word in the industry that Morton was shady-as-hell prior to that, there's a lot of contortions to make the rest of the staff seem completely ignorant of what was happening.

But yes, so far there is no definitive link that has been made available to the public showing that Kevin Willard was involved or had direct knowledge.
 
I'm sure he brought Morton in to get players to come to Seton Hall.

Here's a bulletin-----it worked.

Now show me where there's proof of recruiting violations and I'm all for gassing them.
 
Still cant figure out why any kid would want to go to SHU when you can go to RU. Like what exactly does SHU offer? I had friends who went there who would come to RU and visit me all the time because they said SHU campus was a ghost town and dead with nothing to do on weekends.

1) RU is a better school
2) were soon to have better facilities
3) we have an on campus arena
4) we have better fan support (yes we do when were even halfway decent)
5) better school
6) not a commuter school and we have a college atmosphere
7) better campus
8) better dorms
9) better dining halls
10) better conference

I cannot think of one reason why a kid would choose SHU over RU

Wow! That's all I will say! Lol
 
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