I hope so because I don't have enough 🍿 for the ultra meltdown that will happen on this board if he doesn't.Do you think Ace ultimately signs with RU?
I hope so because I don't have enough 🍿 for the ultra meltdown that will happen on this board if he doesn't.Do you think Ace ultimately signs with RU?
I have expressed my hate for the NILWouldn’t it be funny if the only reason we lost Dylan was because of NIL.
History will say because of Dylan’s family history with Rutgers they were a lock to get his commitment. just when Rutgers was about to return to 76 form,
NIL came along.
Because Rutgers was just good enough to have a player Just influential enough,
The NIL movement gained steam at Rutgers and eventually killed any hope to return to the glory of 76.
If something grows inside you, that eventually kills you, I believe there is a name for that.
I hope this is not the case.
You don't think Duke paid players and cheated before NIL?Wouldn’t it be funny if the only reason we lost Dylan was because of NIL.
History will say because of Dylan’s family history with Rutgers they were a lock to get his commitment. just when Rutgers was about to return to 76 form,
NIL came along.
Because Rutgers was just good enough to have a player Just influential enough,
The NIL movement gained steam at Rutgers and eventually killed any hope to return to the glory of 76.
If something grows inside you, that eventually kills you, I believe there is a name for that.
I hope this is not the case.
noDoes Ace commit to us in a world with no NIL? Or the transfer point? I have no idea just bringing up the obvious counterpoint.
Yeah I heard Lance Thomas just loved NC, he held it near and dear to his heartYou don't think Duke paid players and cheated before NIL?
Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.I have expressed my hate for the NIL
That said, you make the one huge effort so we get the number one and two players in the country
The one really big effort
This is a very unique situation for RU and should not be allowed to get away from usWhy? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
This is a very unique situation for RU and should not be allowed to get away from us
This may never happen again, for our program , and schools like Duke deal with it every year and seemed to prosper with one and dones
If Harper and Bailey finish one and two and we get both, shock waves throughout college BB in a good way
I look at it as putting RU in the spotlightI think the point is that the "shockwave" will disappear unless their is similar NIL money available for elite 2025 recruits.
And if it's not, was it really worth it for 1 year?
From a "now we operate like Duke and every other school we turned our nose down on" perspective.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Future recruits will expect similar NIL as Ace and Harper.
Only if they are as goodI think the point is that the "shockwave" will disappear unless their is similar NIL money available for elite 2025 recruits.
And if it's not, was it really worth it for 1 year?
From a "now we operate like Duke and every other school we turned our nose down on" perspective.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Future recruits will expect similar NIL as Ace and Harper.
Not sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.I look at it as putting RU in the spotlight
I would not worry about the next recruiting class, you take what is possible now
If we can’t afford a Five star 2025 recruit, so be it, but if we do well playing with these two, a number of reasonably priced players will notice, and our recruiting might be better anyway
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
not to mention, they might have to play with 3 walk-ons because we can’t afford to buy any other players. There needs to be NIL loans for schools…like mortgages.Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
Not sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.
I think the game is now fill the bandwagon. The bigger your bandwagon the higher your salary cap is.
I suppose if Ace and Dylan fill the bandwagon…..but what if it doesn’t translate in to wins and they are gone next year. Does that empty the bandwagon.
To be honest I don’t know what to think at this point. If I were Pike I’d dream that a NBA job would open.
You don't think Duke paid players and cheated before NIL?
[/QUOTEThat’s a great point!You don't think Duke paid players and cheated before NIL?
I don’t speak this language. A computer language and I don’t know what a Derozen is.Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
ObviouslyI don’t speak this language. A computer language and I don’t know what a Derozen is.
DeRozan's been gone from Toronto for a few years. This is an issue when the players are both highly regarded. A long time ago, Stephon Marbury was alienated when his teammate Kevin Garnett got a big contract. That was a turning point in his career.Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
Russ,Why are you avoiding a big reason Ace is coming?
It is okay to say it. It's not cheating anymore. RU is playing the game. That's a good thing. Let out a loud "YEAH! LET'S GO!"
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
I didn't follow the recruitment close at all butRuss,
What specifically is RU doing differently that helped land Ace and potentially Dylan? Is it just NIL and hiring the right guys with the right connections?
I think more likely. As things are now I'm sure he's gotten bigger offers from other schools.Does Ace commit to us in a world with no NIL? Or the transfer point? I have no idea just bringing up the obvious counterpoint.
I think more likely. As things are now I'm sure he's gotten bigger offers from other schools.
Oh, that's not funnyI hope so because I don't have enough 🍿 for the ultra meltdown that will happen on this board if he doesn't.
If I were a betting man Dylan and Ace end up together some place that pays them between $1,000,000 and $2,000,000 each.
Mag and Mulcahy and Baker and Myles and Ron and Cliff are worth more in my book.If that’s the offer then RU and it’s fans better mobilize becusse that’s well worth the price of admission
Just don’t want to be saquoned hereIf he did not it would be one hell of a reversal
I would not worry about it
Is Eddie Jordan still the coach?Just don’t want to be saquoned here
I don't think soJust don’t want to be saquoned here
A program moves forward by getting better players and then getting better results on the court..... Or in the reverse orderNot sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.
I think the game is now fill the bandwagon. The bigger your bandwagon the higher your salary cap is.
I suppose if Ace and Dylan fill the bandwagon…..but what if it doesn’t translate in to wins and they are gone next year. Does that empty the bandwagon.
To be honest I don’t know what to think at this point. If I were Pike I’d dream that a NBA job would open.
My response was to a poster who said "in a world with NO NIL." - as in no one is given anything.With zero insider knowledge, I would disagree.
There is a big difference between Rutgers offering "enough" vs. Rutgers offering "zero".
I would imagine there is a minimum NIL requirement just to get to the table. And then the rest of the factors (teammates, history, staff, team competativness) weigh in.
It's not just highest bidder - but you need to be at least in the ballpark.