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Wouldn’t it be funny if the only reason we lost Dylan was because of NIL.
History will say because of Dylan’s family history with Rutgers they were a lock to get his commitment. just when Rutgers was about to return to 76 form,
NIL came along.
Because Rutgers was just good enough to have a player Just influential enough,
The NIL movement gained steam at Rutgers and eventually killed any hope to return to the glory of 76.
If something grows inside you, that eventually kills you, I believe there is a name for that.
I hope this is not the case.
I have expressed my hate for the NIL

That said, you make the one huge effort so we get the number one and two players in the country
The one really big effort
 
My biggest concern is if Dylan (and/or Ace) choose another school instead of Rutgers, we might lose a ton of fair-weather fans. That would be a crushing blow to our fanbase.🤪 Rutgers might have to shut down all sports due to the lack of fence-jumping fans' support.
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Wouldn’t it be funny if the only reason we lost Dylan was because of NIL.
History will say because of Dylan’s family history with Rutgers they were a lock to get his commitment. just when Rutgers was about to return to 76 form,
NIL came along.
Because Rutgers was just good enough to have a player Just influential enough,
The NIL movement gained steam at Rutgers and eventually killed any hope to return to the glory of 76.
If something grows inside you, that eventually kills you, I believe there is a name for that.
I hope this is not the case.
You don't think Duke paid players and cheated before NIL?
 
If I were a betting man Dylan and Ace end up together some place that pays them between $1,000,000 and $2,000,000 each.
 
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Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
This is a very unique situation for RU and should not be allowed to get away from us

This may never happen again, for our program , and schools like Duke deal with it every year and seemed to prosper with one and dones

If Harper and Bailey finish one and two and we get both, shock waves throughout college BB in a good way
 
This is a very unique situation for RU and should not be allowed to get away from us

This may never happen again, for our program , and schools like Duke deal with it every year and seemed to prosper with one and dones

If Harper and Bailey finish one and two and we get both, shock waves throughout college BB in a good way

I think the point is that the "shockwave" will disappear unless their is similar NIL money available for elite 2025 recruits.
And if it's not, was it really worth it for 1 year?
From a "now we operate like Duke and every other school we turned our nose down on" perspective.

In for a penny, in for a pound.
Future recruits will expect similar NIL as Ace and Harper.
 
I think the point is that the "shockwave" will disappear unless their is similar NIL money available for elite 2025 recruits.
And if it's not, was it really worth it for 1 year?
From a "now we operate like Duke and every other school we turned our nose down on" perspective.

In for a penny, in for a pound.
Future recruits will expect similar NIL as Ace and Harper.
I look at it as putting RU in the spotlight

I would not worry about the next recruiting class, you take what is possible now
If we can’t afford a Five star 2025 recruit, so be it, but if we do well playing with these two, a number of reasonably priced players will notice, and our recruiting might be better anyway
 
I think the point is that the "shockwave" will disappear unless their is similar NIL money available for elite 2025 recruits.
And if it's not, was it really worth it for 1 year?
From a "now we operate like Duke and every other school we turned our nose down on" perspective.

In for a penny, in for a pound.
Future recruits will expect similar NIL as Ace and Harper.
Only if they are as good
 
I look at it as putting RU in the spotlight

I would not worry about the next recruiting class, you take what is possible now
If we can’t afford a Five star 2025 recruit, so be it, but if we do well playing with these two, a number of reasonably priced players will notice, and our recruiting might be better anyway
Not sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.

I think the game is now fill the bandwagon. The bigger your bandwagon the higher your salary cap is.

I suppose if Ace and Dylan fill the bandwagon…..but what if it doesn’t translate in to wins and they are gone next year. Does that empty the bandwagon.

To be honest I don’t know what to think at this point. If I were Pike I’d dream that a NBA job would open.
 
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Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
 
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Why? So you can have them for one year and alienate your entire roster and then the year after the cupboard is empty.
not to mention, they might have to play with 3 walk-ons because we can’t afford to buy any other players. There needs to be NIL loans for schools…like mortgages.
 
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Not sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.

I think the game is now fill the bandwagon. The bigger your bandwagon the higher your salary cap is.

I suppose if Ace and Dylan fill the bandwagon…..but what if it doesn’t translate in to wins and they are gone next year. Does that empty the bandwagon.

To be honest I don’t know what to think at this point. If I were Pike I’d dream that a NBA job would open.

To further make your point: Seton Hall had a top 2016 recruiting class (not NIL. HC Williard hired cousins, uncles and coaches of elite recruits).
Those recruits stayed 2 years and didn't even make a Sweet 16.
Now they are an after thought and people want to end the SHU series because they are so irrelevant.

One year pop is great. But that bandwagon empties just as fast as it fills.
 
You better believe Dylan and Ace are getting some STRONG ass offers right now. 2M+. Think blank check.
 
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
I don’t speak this language. A computer language and I don’t know what a Derozen is.
 
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?
DeRozan's been gone from Toronto for a few years. This is an issue when the players are both highly regarded. A long time ago, Stephon Marbury was alienated when his teammate Kevin Garnett got a big contract. That was a turning point in his career.
 
Why are you avoiding a big reason Ace is coming?

It is okay to say it. It's not cheating anymore. RU is playing the game. That's a good thing. Let out a loud "YEAH! LET'S GO!"
Russ,
What specifically is RU doing differently that helped land Ace and potentially Dylan? Is it just NIL and hiring the right guys with the right connections?
 
Not sure why anyone would be alienated when they players getting paid are much more highly regarded. Does RHJ get alienated when he gets called up to the Raptors and has to play with Pascal Siakem, who makes $29 mil a year, and Demar DeRozen, who makes $27.5 mil a year?

This was a common refrain. "It's going to destroy the locker room if some players are making more than others".
Just like when Cam Newton "destroyed" the Auburn locker room with the money he received. Or USC was ruined with Reggie Bush being paid.
Oh wait. What's that? They won national championships? That can't be right.
All the other players hated those guys for getting more money and the teams tanked.......

Funny how nobody ever says this about the coaching staff.
OC KC is going to alienate DC Harasymiak with his new higher salary.
RB coach is going to want a raise if the WR coach earns more.
DB coach can't earn more than the DL coach or else the team will fall apart.
 
Russ,
What specifically is RU doing differently that helped land Ace and potentially Dylan? Is it just NIL and hiring the right guys with the right connections?
I didn't follow the recruitment close at all but
in the days leading up to Ace's decision, people started texting me about it and some would bring it up during conversations about other kids. Eaveryone who mentioned it to me said the highest bidder will win.

Now, sources often say that and I almost always shrug because, hearing that so many times over the past 12 years has kind of had a narcotizing effect on me.

I know coach Knight recruited Ace hard & that has ties to AOT & Sharife.

For now, other than what I read here I don't know anything about Dylan's recruitment. His brother's success at RU, the relationships he and his family have built with the staff over the years and proximity are all reasons why RU is deep in the mix with him..

RU probably doesn't have to match the NIL offers from other schools to get him but they will have to offer something.

If he comes to RU, does well and bounces he'll be like Obi Wan. More influential for RU after he's gone than while he's there.
 
I hope this last podcast actually comes true . It would be a great story for Steve Politi to win an award with.
 
Does Ace commit to us in a world with no NIL? Or the transfer point? I have no idea just bringing up the obvious counterpoint.
I think more likely. As things are now I'm sure he's gotten bigger offers from other schools.
 
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I think more likely. As things are now I'm sure he's gotten bigger offers from other schools.

With zero insider knowledge, I would disagree.

There is a big difference between Rutgers offering "enough" vs. Rutgers offering "zero".

I would imagine there is a minimum NIL requirement just to get to the table. And then the rest of the factors (teammates, history, staff, team competativness) weigh in.

It's not just highest bidder - but you need to be at least in the ballpark.
 
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Just don’t want to be saquoned here
I don't think so
The differences here are that we have signed his friend and teammate already
We are close to being assured his good friend DH is coming as he wants

Barkley did have RU as a favorite team growing up, but he never expressed the real dedication that Ace has
Barkley had the homestate PSU coach and staff constantly in his ear when it became obvious Barkley was going to be special and Barkley caved

Sure you cannot rule it out entirely, but I think we are good
 
Not sure how that moves the program forward. Quite frankly I don’t know how you move a program forward.

I think the game is now fill the bandwagon. The bigger your bandwagon the higher your salary cap is.

I suppose if Ace and Dylan fill the bandwagon…..but what if it doesn’t translate in to wins and they are gone next year. Does that empty the bandwagon.

To be honest I don’t know what to think at this point. If I were Pike I’d dream that a NBA job would open.
A program moves forward by getting better players and then getting better results on the court..... Or in the reverse order

Again, we are on the verge of getting what might be the top two players in the country
What else can you want at this point?
What bigger step forward is there this offseason?

I doubt Pike is thinking pro basketball with these players coming in

Problem we have is that we can't believe a good occurrence fully as RU fans
 
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With zero insider knowledge, I would disagree.

There is a big difference between Rutgers offering "enough" vs. Rutgers offering "zero".

I would imagine there is a minimum NIL requirement just to get to the table. And then the rest of the factors (teammates, history, staff, team competativness) weigh in.

It's not just highest bidder - but you need to be at least in the ballpark.
My response was to a poster who said "in a world with NO NIL." - as in no one is given anything.
 
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