We need to talk about Illinois. The Illini are now just 17-10. With a NET of 20 its amazing but they can lose and lose but that NET will not fall that far. I would say there are some similarities here to the Wisconsin profile from last year but in the Badgers case I think they lost like 7 of 9. and while Illinois has been losing their share it hasnt been a complete freefall. The Badgers had built some great early ooc stuff where body of work overcame how their stretch finish was hurting their overall numbers including record so I was confident with them making the tourney. '

Still confident in Illinois because of body of work but the schedule here is brutal. They inexplicably have a game scheduled with Duke at MSG. Probably seemed like a good idea at the time. Now not so much although Duke will come in beat up. A loss there drops them to 17-11 with 3 league games left... Iowa, at Michigan and Purdue. The Michigan and Purdue games can easily be losses which puts them at 13 losses...to me they need to beat Iowa and finish 18-13 and there isnt really any issue but if they lose ALL 3 they would enter the Big 10 tourney at just 17-14. Does a 17-15 or 18-15 Illinois get in? Thats where its scary so here I think they need one more win to lock in.

7-8 in Q1, 3-2 in Q2, 1-0 in Q3 but a potential to 11-14 in Q1/2/3....NIGHTMARE SCENARIO

They have 6 wins vs schools in the field (Wisconsin, Missouri, Arkansas, Ohio State, UCLA, Oregon) so its not about adding more quality wins, its about a potential bulky loss total.

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I want to get back to Twisted Dune. Played it in October last year and loved the layout.... except the course conditions sucked. It had been aerated and there wasn't a grain of sand in the bunkers, only rocks.

bac2therac said:

dont dare blame the AD, I have been lectured here that it is completely the fans fault for not ponying up everything they have

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It is the job of the AD to raise money as well as the staff which Rutgers failed at

But you and many others on here insist it’s not part of the problem when no matter how you slice it money is involved

toby83 said:

Two top ten nba draft picks and you guys are saying not even close to where we need to be with money needed to be competitive , good luck with that

$30 to park toot my horn

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Maybe you should look for an A10 school to cheer for

If you’ve been to a major conference sporting event anywhere besides Rutgers 25-30 is typical for parking

Oh also Harper and Bailey were paid by a 3rd party not Rutgers NIL so the rest of the roster is who we could actually afford… scary

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bac2therac said:

keep having this great atititude, i hope you dont work for RU athletics and thinks that a 5K seat season ticket wait list is actually real

do you realize that tix were under $20 for lower 200 seating for Iowa and it was $5 to get into the building

maybe you should wake up and realizee Rutgers has a very very small fanbase more akin to Northwestern than any other school in the Big 12. Where exactly do you think Rutgers is going to find all these potential future season ticket holders 3 years running with no ncaa tourney and those willing to spend wads of cash to unknown players

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We are the lowest priced tickets face value and season tickets in the league

Instead of deflecting as to what you think ISNT the problem how about constructing a realistic path to success

Don’t just say recruit better … that requires more than a smile now

RexMantlepiece said:

The two are definitely seperate. I know Kyk and while he is passionate and gives some takes others may consider controversial he bleeds Rutgers and already gives back good sized amounts despite his younger-ish age. I also believe that has he grows in career and wealth that number will increase. So he does walk the walk. Lou in the other hand … my guess is not so much.

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RexMantlepiece said:

The two are definitely seperate. I know Kyk and while he is passionate and gives some takes others may consider controversial he bleeds Rutgers and already gives back good sized amounts despite his younger-ish age. I also believe that has he grows in career and wealth that number will increase. So he does walk the walk. Lou in the other hand … my guess is not so much.

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all you need to know about me is I’m beyond a passionate RU sports fan. I’m part of three generations of fans and have spent thousand of dollars flying up to NJ for football and basketball games. I was scheduled to fly to NYC for the MSG game but figured that with I could spend money elsewhere rather than watch this team.

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rpiseman said:

I’ll take this comment a step further, I think Hobbs’ de-emphasis or “slow-playing” of NIL made Pike feel like raising NIL was outside of his remit.

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dont dare blame the AD, I have been lectured here that it is completely the fans fault for not ponying up everything they have

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football deadline March 11
basketball deadline April 15

well at least the football schedule is known

back in the day when they had to actually process tickets by hand at the RAC, hoops ticket deadline was sometime from late August to late September

Greene Rice FIG said:

What makes you think the roster you posted would win?

NEWSFLASH Harper and Bailey are not in shape and take most defensive possessions off.
NEWSFLASH Last year Cliff started showing signs off checking out. Reports of him not going hard in practice. Games were 50/50 of what Cliff you would get

At some point fans are going to have to come to some sort of conclusion that despite what NBA draft sport Harper and Bailey will get they are currently average B1G basketball players. What happens on defense is 50% of the game. We are failing miserably on defense and they are smack dab in the middle of it.

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A coaching failure.

knightfan7 said:

Have you played Old Bridge or Pebble Creek? Decent publics imo. Greens at Old Bridge are tough. The course is only 18 months old and will be a test when the rough matures.

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Love, love, love Pebble Creek.

Mholinko said:

The same delusional people saying bye and bemoaning NIL

WE WONT EVER BELONG IN THE B10 if we don’t catch up with the times

I would rather pay more and pay NIL and go see a competitive product then keep things the same and watch us lose cause of my morals

Good riddance

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keep having this great atititude, i hope you dont work for RU athletics and thinks that a 5K seat season ticket wait list is actually real

do you realize that tix were under $20 for lower 200 seating for Iowa and it was $5 to get into the building

maybe you should wake up and realizee Rutgers has a very very small fanbase more akin to Northwestern than any other school in the Big 12. Where exactly do you think Rutgers is going to find all these potential future season ticket holders 3 years running with no ncaa tourney and those willing to spend wads of cash to unknown players

KK1827 said:

Was chatting with the guy Ive mentioned here before whos involved in the NJ AAU scene and is the former coach at a parochial. He said he finds it hard to believe that Rutgers didnt have the money to pay Cliff to stay and get the Princeton guard who went to ND.

He said cliff apparently got $800K from Bama, Alloco got $500K from Notre Dame and he is unsure what Mag got from BYU.

But with that said, considering Mag didnt have a laundry list of suitors, let’s assume he got $200K.

If pike put even minimal effort into fundraising, youre telling me he couldnt raise $1.5 to nab those 3?

The lack of effort towards fundraising for this seasons roster will be unforgiveable by most fans and rightfully so.

A roster with a starting 5 of

Harper
Alloco
Bailey
Mag
Cliff

With guys off the bench who required minimal NIL like
Ogbole
Martini
Dercack
J Williams
J-Mike
Dortch
Grant


(Yes im leaving off lathan because he was expensive and his money couldve been used towards cliff/mag/alloco)

That easily gets us to the tourney and probably sets us up for a run as well.

The lack of effort towards fundraising and allocation of funds available this year will go down as the single biggest missed opportunity in Rutgers sports history.

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Try single biggest cluster beep in Rutgers sports history.

KK1827 said:

Was chatting with the guy Ive mentioned here before whos involved in the NJ AAU scene and is the former coach at a parochial. He said he finds it hard to believe that Rutgers didnt have the money to pay Cliff to stay and get the Princeton guard who went to ND.

He said cliff apparently got $800K from Bama, Alloco got $500K from Notre Dame and he is unsure what Mag got from BYU.

But with that said, considering Mag didnt have a laundry list of suitors, let’s assume he got $200K.

If pike put even minimal effort into fundraising, youre telling me he couldnt raise $1.5 to nab those 3?

The lack of effort towards fundraising for this seasons roster will be unforgiveable by most fans and rightfully so.

A roster with a starting 5 of

Harper
Alloco
Bailey
Mag
Cliff

With guys off the bench who required minimal NIL like
Ogbole
Martini
Dercack
J Williams
J-Mike
Dortch
Grant


(Yes im leaving off lathan because he was expensive and his money couldve been used towards cliff/mag/alloco)

That easily gets us to the tourney and probably sets us up for a run as well.

The lack of effort towards fundraising and allocation of funds available this year will go down as the single biggest missed opportunity in Rutgers sports history.

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Mag quit on the team, didn't want him back.

Two top ten nba draft picks and you guys are saying not even close to where we need to be with money needed to be competitive , good luck with that

$30 to park toot my horn

soundcrib said:

Didn't help that our AD was slow to the NIL game also.

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I’ll take this comment a step further, I think Hobbs’ de-emphasis or “slow-playing” of NIL made Pike feel like raising NIL was outside of his remit.