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The fact that Cliff is a role player

In case you weren’t aware, Bsma fans expect to win. They ultimately lost and Cliff was definitely a contributing factor in that loss, so Bama fans do certainly care.
Cliff would be pretty far down on the list for why they lost. Mark Sears on the other hand who is supposed to be their best player only scored 6 points, and had a down year generally compared to last year, would be the main culprit.

With no QB question lingering, Rutgers eyes continued improvement from Athan Kaliakmanis

Hopefully Athan's greatness will be proven by a 2025 season that brings on a major bowl appearance and his stats move AK into the top 5 of RU QBs of all time from being #16 for just one year as a Scarlet Knight
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The fact that Cliff is a role player

For bama shows how college basketball will never be the same as the good ole days. He got paid big money to be a role player on a very good team. He barely played in the biggest game of the year.

Alabama would have likely been no better or worse this year with or without Cliff. He would have likely given us 4-5 more wins

Cliff was more than just a role player for Bama this year.

No offense - but did you actually watch any of their games?
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OT: Viewership numbers?

People whined when Cinderellas Florida Atlantic and San Diego State were in the Final Four a couple of years ago. Now they're whining because the Final Four are all 1 seeds. No pleasing some people.

You realize those are groups of different people, right? The people excited by Cinderellas don't overlap much with the people who want chalk in the Final Four.

I think what you're looking for is there's "no pleasing ALL people".
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OT: Viewership numbers?

The losing definitely had an effect.

In my interest in Rutgers this season? Possibly... but the losing was in large part due to the other factors I don't like, namely having to replace the whole team with mercs and hoping for the best.

In my interest in college basketball in general, not really - I was much more into college basketball when we were getting annihilated during the Eddie Jordan years than I am today.
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We watched Latham for an entire season

Just curious - what do you think he was good at exactly, besides scoring points (FT shooting counts as part of those 8 ppg)? He’s a poor rebounder for his position. He’s bad at every aspect of defense. The scouting report on him said he’d be a good passer but we didn’t see that at Rutgers. And he’s not a good perimeter shooter from 3 at this point. So when you say your not only basing it on scoring - what then? He actually wasn’t even overly efficient at scoring for a BIG.
Again, your'e not reading what I said. I never said he was good at anything, only that he was our third best player and then there was a big drop off, and that he had upside as a help defender. It was pretty easy to be the third best player on our team and still not be great.

OT: Viewership numbers?

People whined when Cinderellas Florida Atlantic and San Diego State were in the Final Four a couple of years ago. Now they're whining because the Final Four are all 1 seeds. No pleasing some people.
The only ones whining were fans and alums of those teams they beat. And probably some people (and Vegas) mad their bracket was busted.

But collectively, more like it that other way. It's why most prefer "One Shining Moment" results over a blowout or the predicted winner.

OT: Viewership numbers?

Ok two separate followups:

#1. If Rutgere had won this year with Ace/Dylan on their way out before even arriving and all the transfers, how excited and interested would you have been? Say they made the Sweet 16

There are 4 outcomes for winning/veterans and I'd wager this is the priority for most:
1. Win with program veterans
2. Win with "mercenaries"
3. Lose with program veterans
4. Lose with program "mercenaries".

This season was a 4. But could have easily been a 2 and then all this "disinterest" would be gone.


#2 If the Rutgers specific issues aren't the cause, then why the disinterest in the tournament? Why was it boring?
I can't imagine Rutgers fans caring if Flordia or Texas Tech had massive roster turnover.

#1 - I was really exited about this season in the latter part of 2023-24. Swapping Fernandez/Hyatt for Harper/Bailey would have made a huge difference in the fortunes of the 2023-24 team. Then we lost Omoruyi, Mag, Simpson, and Woolf, too.... and brought in a bunch of mercs to replace them. The team in November was a who's-who of "who's-that?"

The writing was on the wall very early that we were not making the tournament. I had us as "out" on 12/23 in SBP's thread. Had fortunes been different, and we'd had an entirely different season than we had, and made the Sweet 16 - I'd have been excited to watch our first every Sweet 16 in my lifetime.

The "disinterest" isn't in Rutgers - it's in the sport in general. There was a time 8-10 years back when I'd have watched literally any college basketball game on television, from any conference, regular season or tournament. I just don't feel that way anymore..

#2 - The first weekend was dull as hell. Virtually no drama at all. The opening rounds produced pretty much zero surprises, aside from maybe SJU having a poor shooting game against a good Arkansas team. Only one buzzer beater (Maryland), no overtime games, no real upsets, and most games weren't very close in the final 5 min - with the higher seeded team just keeping the lower seeded one at arm's length until the clock ran out.

Only 4 of the first 32 games were decided by fewer than 7 points, and only 5 of the next 16 games... only 7 games of 48 were single-score finishes, and some of those were on last possession desperation shots to cut it to a single score. The only "upset" games where a team beat someone seeded at least 4 spots higher were: 12 CSU over 5 Memphis, 12 McNeese over 5 Clemson, 11 Drake over 6 Missouri, and 10 Arkansas over 2 SJU.

But why? In part because the best players from these lower seeded teams were harvested after last season. For example, FAU had a great tournament run in 2022-23.... and now their top 4 players from that team are all on tournament rosters this year (Goldin on Michigan, Davis on Arkansas, Martin on Florida, Boyd on SDSU). Danny Wolf left Yale early, which is a rare thing from the Ivy League, which defanged Yale in the first round.

ESPN reports sources say Willard accepts Villanova job

Is George Mason's HC Tony Skinn being looked at by Maryland fans as a possible hire since he has done an excellent job there and was a Turtle assistant a few years ago
His contract was extended to 2029 a few days ago, but if Maryland wants him the buyout shouldn't be a problem. $995,000 a year could be made up paying less that it would take someone like Buzz to come
Skinn's name comes up. If it's a relative nobody, American University coach Duane Simpkins is more likely in my opinion, as he is considered a Maryland guy through and through (his team got to the "First Four" of the NCAA's this season). Simpkins played four years for St. Gary Williams, ha ha...

One big name in people's mouths at the moment is an assistant coach from UConn named Murray. He must be pretty good but I have no idea...
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Recruiting

Probably 95% of the message board people were all applauding when the NCAA had their legs cut out from under them. Now that the inevitable sh*t show is upon us, everyone asking why can’t the NCAA do something about all the crap that’s happening. You all got what you wanted until what you got wasn’t good.

I really can't see how wrestling survives this, it's not a sport AD's are going to bat for and one which will be listed under cost savings. I can't see a Little Rock or Campbell continuing on and many more will simply defund it. Even in the premier conference Wisconsin and MSU are defunding the sport to 5 scholarships. Eventually you'll have a few top teams having a circle jerk amongst each other wondering why no one funds the sport any longer.

We watched Latham for an entire season

This just illustrates why recruiting freshman is pointless in the current climate.
Freshman may be cheaper to recruit from an NIL perspective but we should not be concerned with a player's potential anymore.
We should only be concerned with their current value. The minute a good young big shows anything on the court like Lathan did, he will be immediately moved into the over paid category. So we end up playing with inexperienced freshmen that are often ineffective because of their lack of maturity and losing them when they are ready to really contribute.
Even Dortch and Grant are at least another year away from being legit Big Ten starters but each will get paid handsomely if they show anything next year. Again, we suffer from their inexperience and lose them as they mature.
We need to be finding mature players so that we eventually end up getting what we pay for and not over paying for some future potential.

ESPN reports sources say Willard accepts Villanova job

Agree that what Willard did isn't that big of a deal at the end of the day. He just isn't very tactful, and not extremely likeable from a distance, so it's a bad look when he's wearing it. It was an incredibly precarious situation -- the "Perfect Storm," if you will. AD just left, team is still playing in Sweet Sixteen, monster program came calling for him but needs to move fast.


They are going full-speed ahead on a new coach without waiting for an athletic director to be hired.

The "Buzz buzz" is fading...
Is George Mason's HC Tony Skinn being looked at by Maryland fans as a possible hire since he has done an excellent job there and was a Turtle assistant a few years ago
His contract was extended to 2029 a few days ago, but if Maryland wants him the buyout shouldn't be a problem. $995,000 a year could be made up paying less that it would take someone like Buzz to come
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