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RAPID REACTION — Illinois

This season could end up being really heartbreaking if the team finishes super strong and doesn't make it which seems pretty likely
Just makes the scheduling element this year all the more infuriating. It’s hard to say with 100 percent certainty, but if you swap KSU/Princeton with a couple games at the RAC, in all likelihood we’re 14-9 (5-7) and in much more serious contention.

Basketball Rutgers Basketball defeats No. 23 Illinois with return of Dylan Harper

Are we pretending we'd make the tournament if both Harper and ace were playing now? I could've sworn they were playing when they were losing to the cupcakes like Kennesaw State and princeton
U R one of the biggest JOs on this board. 4-1 in the BIG with D Harp healthy. Does this YOUNG team with all new players get half the season to Connect. Stop being an idiot already.

RAPID REACTION — Illinois

1. Welcome back, Dylan Harper. What a stat line. 28 points, 7-15 FG overall (3-5 on threes), 11-12 FTs, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals, and 1 block. He put the team on his back and willed this team to a big top 25 win.

2. Rutgers is now 4-1 when Ace and Dylan are healthy, and the one loss (OSU) was before Ace settled in as a college player.

3. Timely contributions from the supporting cast. Big threes in the second half by Grant, Hayes, and Martini. 13 points (including 7-8 FTs) from JWill. 4 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 assists from JMike.

4. Rutgers really battled tonight. We went up 17 points in the first half, and we all knew Illinois was going to make it a game, and they did just that by crashing the boards in the 2nd half and finally hitting shots, taking advantage of their paint dominance and taking a 55-52 lead. But Rutgers fought back in the final 10 minutes, outscoring Illinois 30-18 to close out the game.

5. Rebounding was a struggle after the first quarter of the game. But it ended up 41-40 overall. Illinois did get 18 offensive rebounds, but guess what, we got 16. Ace with an 18-11 double double.

6. Great job at the line tonight, 28-34 for 82.4%. Won the game at the line, full stop.

7. Interesting rotation from Pike tonight. He basically didn’t play Acuff or Derkack, presumably thinking that they would not be able to keep up with the athleticism of Illinois. So mainly rotated three guards with Dylan, JWill, and JMike, with Acuff, Derkack, and Hayes getting spot minutes.

8. As I said after the NW game, this win doesn’t change our retooled goal (make the BTT and hope to finish 9th to get a single bye). We’re out of the at-large NCAA conversation (unless we win out), but this win keeps us on schedule for the BTT.
Good stuff. I would add No. 9 - the battle between projected top-4 NBA draft picks between Harper and Jakucionis was a no contest. Jakucionis Is not in the same league as Harper.

RAPID REACTION — Illinois

Was at game and didn’t follow game thread, so question:

Did the officiating seem as unbelievably brutal on tv as it did in person?

Yes they missed 3 pretty obvious walks on ace (2 in first half and 1 in the second) Atleast one on jwill where he totally walked on a made drive

But the call where their center came down on someone’s foot and it was a foul?!! And that late out of bounds - seemed undeniable obvious that was off of illinois… and NO review WTF?!?!

The call against Harper for pushing on the rebound - seriously WTF was that - how exactly does one push when you are IN THE AIR WITH THE BALL IN YOUR HANDS?!?!

But I think was the plethora of uncalled fouls on Illinois which was the worst thing - There was a reason they were getting tons of rebounds in the second half - they were crashing into our guys really hard, pushing (sometime literally two hand pushes in the back) , at least 3 times we had the ball and they completely hacked the ball out of our guys hands - those repeated no calls were HUGE!! Smart on Illinois - I am sure underwood told them “refs aren’t calling ANYTHING on rebounds so be as aggressive and physical as possible - they aren’t calling it!! Hack away!”

But then we got at least two late ticky calls calls on the perimeter…LOL

In person the officiating seemed really brutal

The African American guy it seemed was the one repeatedly making REALLY BAD CALLS

One Year Players

I don't know it use to be kind of fun watching a team grow through the years. This use to be the old model:

Year 1 - struggle with the new group but start to build chemistry as the year goes on.
Year 2 - Improvement in W/L. Maybe go through a round or two in the NIT
Year 3 - Legitimate tournament team
Year 4 - Win a game or more in the tournament.

Now it's let try something new every year.
Back in the early 70s Charlie Finley thought that all MLB players should only get a one year contract every year and everyone laughed at him. But that's exactly what the NCAA has become.
I used to think that was what West Virginia football did way back when. They'd have two heavy recruiting years in a row.. 20+ recruits.. and then light years.. and every 4-5 years have a monster team that seemed to make up for the rebuilding years and kept their reputation solid.

And Gonzaga basketball became "GONZAGA" by mostly starting 5th-year seniors for awhile. IIRC. some having done Mormon missions too (though I could be off on that as Gonzaga is a catholic school, still I remember something about that). So they had these guys who played in the same system for a long time. Of course, they don't need to do that now that they are a brand name and can get top recruits... but I wonder if they think they might have been better off the old way.

OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

Choice A

Lindor
Vientos
Soto
Alonso

Choice B

Nimmo
Lindor
Soto
Alonso
Vientos

C

Lindor
Soto
Vientos
Alonso


D

Lindor
Vientos
Soto
Alonso
Winker/marte
Alvarez
Nimmo
Acuña / McNeil
Siri
As pointed out earlier- Lindor took off batting lead off- he stays there. And no way you leave no one behind Pete for protection- that would seem to be Vientos at 5. That leaves Soto or Nimmo at 2/3…both of these guys have pop and just on base machines.
I like Lindor/Nimmo/Soto/Pete/Vientos/Winker or Marte/ Alvarez/ McNeil or Acuna/Siri
That is as good of a lineup as we have had.

RAPID REACTION — Illinois

1. Welcome back, Dylan Harper. What a stat line. 28 points, 7-15 FG overall (3-5 on threes), 11-12 FTs, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals, and 1 block. He put the team on his back and willed this team to a big top 25 win.

2. Rutgers is now 4-1 when Ace and Dylan are healthy, and the one loss (OSU) was before Ace settled in as a college player.

3. Timely contributions from the supporting cast. Big threes in the second half by Grant, Hayes, and Martini. 13 points (including 7-8 FTs) from JWill. 4 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 assists from JMike.

4. Rutgers really battled tonight. We went up 17 points in the first half, and we all knew Illinois was going to make it a game, and they did just that by crashing the boards in the 2nd half and finally hitting shots, taking advantage of their paint dominance and taking a 55-52 lead. But Rutgers fought back in the final 10 minutes, outscoring Illinois 30-18 to close out the game.

5. Rebounding was a struggle after the first quarter of the game. But it ended up 41-40 overall. Illinois did get 18 offensive rebounds, but guess what, we got 16. Ace with an 18-11 double double.

6. Great job at the line tonight, 28-34 for 82.4%. Won the game at the line, full stop.

7. Interesting rotation from Pike tonight. He basically didn’t play Acuff or Derkack, presumably thinking that they would not be able to keep up with the athleticism of Illinois. So mainly rotated three guards with Dylan, JWill, and JMike, with Acuff, Derkack, and Hayes getting spot minutes.

8. As I said after the NW game, this win doesn’t change our retooled goal (make the BTT and hope to finish 9th to get a single bye). We’re out of the at-large NCAA conversation (unless we win out), but this win keeps us on schedule for the BTT.
We do NOT have to win out to make the tourney .
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