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OT: Wintry Mix Thursday (2/6) after 1 am: some snow/sleet through 6-8 am, then a bit of freezing rain (esp NW of 95) then rain likely until ~12 pm

Are you just trolling? NWS had all of CNJ in the 1-2" swath and your and my point and click forecasts were for about 1.3" of snow which is clearly within 1-2". Many forecasters had us in 1-2" of snow. Also, I posted the two versions of the NAM to illustrate that by inference, the NAM forecast was for 2" of "snow" as sleet which is 2/3" of frozen precip on the ground, which isn't too far off what we have, which is why the NAM won the forecast derby.

And I said it was a snow vs. sleet forecast bust, not a bust for impact, which Walt and I agreed with. Here's what he said in reply to my discussion of why sleet is just as impactful on travel and removal as snow (maybe moreso, since it melts more slowly). Not too many get props from a legend like Walt.

"You're explanation is imo, excellent and why we do what we do for kind of improving traveling life, when travel is not necessary or can be delayed. We love the flakes but it's the frozen-freezing that is the problem. Well stated.

I'll addd while Im here... the NAM is the so called winner on less snow and more IP... but its not nil and if you're getting snow this morning its your win. Wantage NJj has had very little snow so far. We are 0.4" sleet and down to 21F at 630AM

Finally: maybe the city and Island are OK on roads... am not quite sure though I check Cams around CP. Feedback will be helpful.

But overall I think this advisory is a success... imperfect yes, but not worth mentioning BUST. We'll look at this later today to see what has occurred."

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Exactly not worth mentioning bust

No one was expecting 2 inches of snow

Those who know know

I kept telling you this..my advisory from afternoon kept saying up to an inch

The probability maps actually saying 10% chance of more than an inch

People paying attention knew this was likely more ice and rain than snow

Nws had to at least keep public aware on an event but they also weren't shifting 1 inch predictions downward that late in the game

OT: Wintry Mix Thursday (2/6) after 1 am: some snow/sleet through 6-8 am, then a bit of freezing rain (esp NW of 95) then rain likely until ~12 pm

Are you just trolling? NWS had all of CNJ in the 1-2" swath and your and my point and click forecasts were for about 1.3" of snow which is clearly within 1-2". Many forecasters had us in 1-2" of snow. Also, I posted the two versions of the NAM to illustrate that by inference, the NAM forecast was for 2" of "snow" as sleet which is 2/3" of frozen precip on the ground, which isn't too far off what we have, which is why the NAM won the forecast derby.

And I said it was a snow vs. sleet forecast bust, not a bust for impact, which Walt and I agreed with. Here's what he said in reply to my discussion of why sleet is just as impactful on travel and removal as snow (maybe moreso, since it melts more slowly). Not too many get props from a legend like Walt.

"You're explanation is imo, excellent and why we do what we do for kind of improving traveling life, when travel is not necessary or can be delayed. We love the flakes but it's the frozen-freezing that is the problem. Well stated.

I'll addd while Im here... the NAM is the so called winner on less snow and more IP... but its not nil and if you're getting snow this morning its your win. Wantage NJj has had very little snow so far. We are 0.4" sleet and down to 21F at 630AM

Finally: maybe the city and Island are OK on roads... am not quite sure though I check Cams around CP. Feedback will be helpful.

But overall I think this advisory is a success... imperfect yes, but not worth mentioning BUST. We'll look at this later today to see what has occurred."

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I agree this is a bust for the snow predicted. The models and guidance were leading people to speculate whether we'd get an initial thump of snow, wall of snow to begin, etc that then gets a crust of ice on top to end it, before going all rain.

In reality the precip shield was all choppy, and was sleet & fzra from what I've seen. Even late last night around midnight, soundings were coming in from MD showing warm air aloft. In Trenton there was a brief switch over to snow around 5am but that didn't last. Now it is straight up 33 and rain. If you live north and east, that's what's coming.

OT: Wintry Mix Thursday (2/6) after 1 am: some snow/sleet through 6-8 am, then a bit of freezing rain (esp NW of 95) then rain likely until ~12 pm

I don't think it's a bust

No one thought we were getting 2 inches of snow

Clown maps generally useless during an event like this

Tropical tidbits is horrible..why would you post that when pivotal more accurate


Even the nws maps stated 1 inch for most

The sleet signal was strong and models in the late stages were cutting snow amounts..even the hurricane rap hwr

Walt drag even told you this wasn't a bust
Are you just trolling? NWS had all of CNJ in the 1-2" swath and your and my point and click forecasts were for about 1.3" of snow which is clearly within 1-2". Many forecasters had us in 1-2" of snow. Also, I posted the two versions of the NAM to illustrate that by inference, the NAM forecast was for 2" of "snow" as sleet which is 2/3" of frozen precip on the ground, which isn't too far off what we have, which is why the NAM won the forecast derby.

And I said it was a snow vs. sleet forecast bust, not a bust for impact, which Walt and I agreed with. Here's what he said in reply to my discussion of why sleet is just as impactful on travel and removal as snow (maybe moreso, since it melts more slowly). Not too many get props from a legend like Walt.

"You're explanation is imo, excellent and why we do what we do for kind of improving traveling life, when travel is not necessary or can be delayed. We love the flakes but it's the frozen-freezing that is the problem. Well stated.

I'll addd while Im here... the NAM is the so called winner on less snow and more IP... but its not nil and if you're getting snow this morning its your win. Wantage NJj has had very little snow so far. We are 0.4" sleet and down to 21F at 630AM

Finally: maybe the city and Island are OK on roads... am not quite sure though I check Cams around CP. Feedback will be helpful.

But overall I think this advisory is a success... imperfect yes, but not worth mentioning BUST. We'll look at this later today to see what has occurred."

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Shayne Van Ness

Crazy to think few years after Nagao transferred into PSU he’s on the outside looking in for a starting spot… why did he even leave Minnesota in the first place?? They are back on the rise…. Blaze gotta prolly go 141 unless he wanna challenge SVN for 149… Nagao best shot prolly face Davis for 133 ..

Both Mirasola can get in the lineup if Barr goes 184… then that leaves out Ryder unless he wants to challenge for 197. But Barr looking like a good sized 197 now so how likely is it that he even drops down to 184 next year .
Nagao has been injured both years at penn state, he had a lingering knee issue last year and still made R12 and is taking a medical RS for a bad elbow injury this season, if not for the inj he probablY be the starter this year and Davis would have RSed
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Thank the ref

THAT guy was the f$@king worst!!!!

It seemed every blown call (and there were a number of horrifically bad ones) was his.

I personally didn’t notice the screens but i did notice Illinois hacking, grabbing and literally giving two-hand-pushes in the back all second half on rebounds (THAT is why they were getting the rebounds!). Several plays (at least 3) our guy had the ball and they practically mugged the ball away
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